Jordan RSV2 SV700 Special breaks cover

[SV650Racer]

:cool: Thought you guys would want to see this before anyone else:cool:

Have just nearly completed the build of a very special SV650 for a good friend of mine.

The Suzuki RSV2 700.

Built from a brand new SV650SK9
GSXR1000K9 big piston forks with Ohlins internals.
Ohlins modified race shock
Sigma new spec Slipper Clutch
Nova close ratio gearbox
Kit race generator
Carrillo Rods
Wiseco 700cc pistons
Head and compression work etc
Kent Cams
Modified airbox
Lightened and balanced crank
Interceptor fueling, traction and datalogging
HM quickshifter
One off exhaust system
Performance Fabrications special subframe
Performance Fabrications special clock bracket
Aprillia Corse factory bodywork
Race clip ons
Active quick action throttle
Valter moto rearsets
HRC rear hose kit
Lithium battery weighing just 1lb
Hel lines
Talon sprockets 17 front and 39 rear to suit gearbox - estimated 164mph!
520 non oring lightweight race chain
Dymag Carbon wheels with rear to suit 180 rear slick
Braking wavey discs
Harris filler cap
Brembo RCS master cylinder

Weigh in at sub 154kgs wet..yet to be dyno'd:smt081

Dont ask the total build cost but alot. Finishing touches yet to be applied prior to first race at Snetterton in two weeks!

Excuse the image quality but my camera needs a service. Should be getting some magazine pics shortly.

http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/690/johnhall.jpg (http://img376.imageshack.us/i/johnhall.jpg/)

http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/6168/johnhall2.jpg

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/4733/johnhall3.jpg

[Noble Ox]

Im in love

[Spiderman]

Can i has a go on your bike please mister :love:

[Holdup]

Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet

What class is it racing in?

[yorkie_chris]

Lot of shiny stuff, rear subframe looks nice :)

Fact they have new clutch mean they admit there is problem with old one then :-P

[SV650Racer]

Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet

What class is it racing in?

Thunderbikes with Bemsee.

http://www.thunderbike.org.uk/

Chris - this clutch is for the tuned motors. Steve ran it last weekend and it worked very well.

[fastdruid]

Very nice, just like my SV700.....

















...Wants to be. :)

Druid

[yorkie_chris]

Kit alternator sounds cool. Any pics of it?

[SV650Racer]

Kit alternator sounds cool. Any pics of it?

Not got one loose, i can take a pic of the engine cover if you want:D

[G]

Looks awsome, must be an incredible amount to spend though, even down to the bodywork etc... then theres standard levers!

Still awsome

[Alpinestarhero]

Sorry, cant stand up to give this bike a standing ovation







someone pass me a pillow :lol:





ssshhhwiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnngggg!!


where the RSV4 fairings easy to fit? Would they go onto a curvy easily? (probably look a bit wrong though). I noticed there is no rad hose going into the engine cover on the right hand side of the fairing, has the rad not been fitted yet?

[yorkie_chris]

Think it might run a tad hot though

[Alpinestarhero]

Think it might run a tad hot though

:lol:

[SV650Racer]

Looks awsome, must be an incredible amount to spend though, even down to the bodywork etc... then theres standard levers!

Still awsome

not quite finito yet though;)

[SV650Racer]

Sorry, cant stand up to give this bike a standing ovation







someone pass me a pillow :lol:





ssshhhwiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnngggg!!


where the RSV4 fairings easy to fit? Would they go onto a curvy easily? (probably look a bit wrong though). I noticed there is no rad hose going into the engine cover on the right hand side of the fairing, has the rad not been fitted yet?

hoses havent arrived yet from SFS who are making some to work with the SV1000 radiator.

[Alpinestarhero]

aaaaaahhhhh i see

Well I'll see if i can get to any thunderbike races and get some pics of the bike in action

[yorkie_chris]

I need to build an engine like that for the road. Muahaha.

Got any cheap FCR carbs? :-D

[G]

not quite finito yet though;)

Ah that makes a bit more sense then lol I was worried.

[ChrisSV]

That looks awesome!!
and deffo deserves a standing ovation xD
hope all goes well with it! :)

[lukemillar]

Those fairings look so schmick. I think I would cry if it ever slides down the road!

[Jdubya]

Race in two weeks then...

Where is it being ridden for the first time then? Trackday at Brands?

[irie]

Bemsee Thunderbikes @ Snetterton 26-28 March with my a*rse on it. :smt060

Here's some more pics:

[DarrenSV650S]

Tidy as fk

[sv650racing]

WOW, Can you do that to mine Sarah!

Bike running smooth, testing in 2 weeks!

Thanks for all the help

[boredus]

Is that one of Adam Molloy's minitwin bikes in the background?

[haggis]

That's just lovely. :D

[ThEGr33k]

Dyno Dyno Dyno Dyno... Dyno.
























Dyno!

Looks SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET



Oh and one thing I noticed. No hose on what I presume is the water pump? :-?

[5hort5]

It's lovely, I would really like to take that on the road against a few other bikes just to see how it works on the norm, I bet it would be a cracker to ride.

[SV650Racer]

Is that one of Adam Molloy's minitwin bikes in the background?

Thats the rear of Steve's Thunderbike. :cool:

Dyno ETA for next week..although generally the first few runs will be meaningless as generally they dont come upto power until after a meeting especially as this was built from a brand new engine.

[suzuki139]

stunning machine mate wishing you a great 2010

[RichT]

I want one.

[zadar]

What is new spec on slipper clutch?

[Spikenipple]

Besides the obvious bits like wheels and subframe, how did you get it so light?

[fastdruid]

Removal/replacement of subframes and swapping of forks are the biggest. Along with removal of the road going electrics[1] and things like the sidestand etc.

Mine (even without those very very very nice wheels) and the curvy frame (which is heavier than the pointy frame) is silly light in comparison to std.

Druid

[1] As an example I took out 1/2Kg from the NC35 wiring by having a 'racing' loom rather than stock. That's not including the weight lost from not having lights, indicators (and all the mountings for them), horn etc.

[yorkie_chris]

Have you weighed both frames (I know suzuki #said# they saved weight)? Zadar?

[Spikenipple]

Fair enough Fastdruid, sounds good. I'd love to lighten my SV. Maybe once I get some money after all the things I have to pay for these days I can start pimping my bike a bit; I've only done one trackday (at Oulton) but there's no doubt in my mind it's something I want to do more often. I want to buy a cheapie road bike and track the SV.

[fastdruid]

Have you weighed both frames (I know suzuki #said# they saved weight)? Zadar?

I've never had it that stripped. I'm just going by Suzuki's claims that it is lighter.

Fair enough Fastdruid, sounds good. I'd love to lighten my SV.

Its tricky if you're keeping it as a road bike, best bet is to fit stuff designed for supersports stuff like the GSX-R but the heavy bits are SV specific and the lightweight versions are track only.

Druid

[zadar]

Have you weighed both frames (I know suzuki #said# they saved weight)? Zadar?
Both frames weight same, both swingarms weight same.

[Spikenipple]

Well if I could get another roadbike I wouldn't mind making the SV track only, however if I wanted to ride it on the road all I'd need to do is stick a numberplate and the side stand back on ;)

[-Ralph-]

Nice. Will be interested to see how it gets on.

[jhsracing]

New clutch ramps are 33 degrees.


What is new spec on slipper clutch?

[Wizzbangwill]

Looks great! Can't wait to see it at snetterton best sv I've seen. Good luck

[zadar]

New clutch ramps are 33 degrees.
What is that suppose to do for plate problem?

[Lozzo]

Fact they have new clutch mean they admit there is problem with old one then :-P

Fact that Suzuki designed the SV650K3 and subsequent bikes says there was a problem with the previous models then? ;)

[Lozzo]

Looks awsome, must be an incredible amount to spend though, even down to the bodywork etc... then theres standard levers!

Still awsome

What's wrong with standard levers, they work don't they?

Our old ZX-10R race bike only had a shorty Pazzo lever on the brake side because that's the side Danny traditionally falls off. In 4 years it never got damaged, but I never had to replace the clutch lever either, even after he broke the clip on after falling off at Graham Hill bend at Brands

http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v298/184/72/707171981/n707171981_1111223_3778.jpg

[yorkie_chris]

Fact that Suzuki designed the SV650K3 and subsequent bikes says there was a problem with the previous models then? ;)

Yes, too expensive.
Problem with clutch also expensive but for the wrong reasons :-P

Way I read problem, it is not extra bhp causing issue at all since they are not slipping under load. Plates get shredded with standard engine. The problem with the "gen 2" clutch is pretty well pinned down to being an issue with where the hub lifts the pressure plate.

Changing ramp angles will not help unless they also fixed problem, ramp angle just changes the force component working to crack the clutch pack. Lower angle means more "leverage" in effect to open the pack. This might make it work better with higher capacity engines, but I don't know the earlier angle.
If I was being cynical I'd say the angle change is marginal and this is an under the table fix for the problem without officially admitting the problem exists. Yoyo and Sigma both sounded pretty defensive, basically blaming it on rider/mech abuse by putting too many ponies through it with weak springs.

[SVGrandad]

How do you racing guys cope with a new motor? I assume that you dont run it in for XXX miles. Is there anything done during the build to lessen the chance of an early pickup/seizure?

Cheers

SVGrandad

[irie]

Oops! :(

[yorkie_chris]

Good start to season! What did you hit?

[irie]

Two bikes who'd crashed in front of me on the start grid @ Snetteron yesterday. Very nasty accident.

[SV650Racer]

Two bikes who'd crashed in front of me on the start grid @ Snetteron yesterday. Very nasty accident.

Lady luck was on your side yesterday.

[irie]

Lady luck was on your side yesterday.

Absolutely.

Even the dislocated collar bone somehow relocated itself during the night!

[boredus]

Ouch, how did the other riders come off and did you break anything?

[irie]

Ouch, how did the other riders come off and did you break anything?

For other riders look here (http://www.bemsee.net/) :(



(me, only dislocated collar bone)

[Nobbylad]

That's terrible :(

[barwel1992]

sad news that :(

[yorkie_chris]

Really sorry to hear that. Glad you came out of it alright.

[G]

What's wrong with standard levers, they work don't they?

Our old ZX-10R race bike only had a shorty Pazzo lever on the brake side because that's the side Danny traditionally falls off. In 4 years it never got damaged, but I never had to replace the clutch lever either, even after he broke the clip on after falling off at Graham Hill bend at Brands

http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v298/184/72/707171981/n707171981_1111223_3778.jpg

true, but that could be said about alot of the standard parts that have been replaced on it regardless of cost, even down to cosmetics.

[ChrisSV]

Thats bad news. Glad to hear you ok though

[G]

Just followed that link, terrible news that...

[irie]

Going into hospital on Thursday 15th April (ironically my birthday!) to get the shoulder put back together under GA. Ah yes, the joys of racing ... ;)

[irie]

Here's the 'after' x-ray. I manage to get a piece of free Ti! :thumright:

It's holding an artificial ligament in place (Surgilig).

[barwel1992]

that looks painful

liking the TI though :P

[RichT]

Sorry to hear about this.

I did a similar thing Jan 09. Not bike related. Didn't have the op though. It does get better - although make sure you do the physio exercises.

[irie]

Sorry to hear about this.

I did a similar thing Jan 09. Not bike related. Didn't have the op though. It does get better - although make sure you do the physio exercises.

My separation looks a good bit worse than yours, and I'm a good bit older so won't heal as well as you.

No probs with my physio, she knows me pretty well! :(

[Jayneflakes]

Like the new piercing! Looks painful though.

Hope you heal fast and heal well. Good luck. :-)

[Lozzo]

Oops! :(

That was a bit bloody careless, wasn't it?

[irie]

Consultant took the dressings off today.

Well that wasn't f*cking keyhole surgery, was it? http://www.therevcounter.com/customstyles/trcdefault/smilies/shocked.gif http://www.therevcounter.com/customstyles/trcdefault/smilies/shocked.gif http://www.therevcounter.com/customstyles/trcdefault/smilies/shocked.gif

[barwel1992]

that looks like a right mess

[fastdruid]

Going into hospital on Thursday 15th April (ironically my birthday!) to get the shoulder put back together under GA. Ah yes, the joys of racing ... ;)

Ouch! Makes mine look 'nice'.

http://www.fastdruid.co.uk/albums/temp/thumbs/640x4806620_114276418385_701748385_2392675_4985904 _n.jpg

Then again given that mine healed without surgery I guess it was.

Druid

[Rai86]

:cool: Thought you guys would want to see this before anyone else:cool:

Have just nearly completed the build of a very special SV650 for a good friend of mine.

The Suzuki RSV2 700.

Built from a brand new SV650SK9
GSXR1000K9 big piston forks with Ohlins internals.
Ohlins modified race shock
Sigma new spec Slipper Clutch
Nova close ratio gearbox
Kit race generator
Carrillo Rods
Wiseco 700cc pistons
Head and compression work etc
Kent Cams
Modified airbox
Lightened and balanced crank
Interceptor fueling, traction and datalogging
HM quickshifter
One off exhaust system
Performance Fabrications special subframe
Performance Fabrications special clock bracket
Aprillia Corse factory bodywork
Race clip ons
Active quick action throttle
Valter moto rearsets
HRC rear hose kit
Lithium battery weighing just 1lb
Hel lines
Talon sprockets 17 front and 39 rear to suit gearbox - estimated 164mph!
520 non oring lightweight race chain
Dymag Carbon wheels with rear to suit 180 rear slick
Braking wavey discs
Harris filler cap
Brembo RCS master cylinder

Weigh in at sub 154kgs wet..yet to be dyno'd:smt081

Dont ask the total build cost but alot. Finishing touches yet to be applied prior to first race at Snetterton in two weeks!

Excuse the image quality but my camera needs a service. Should be getting some magazine pics shortly.

http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/690/johnhall.jpg (http://img376.imageshack.us/i/johnhall.jpg/)

http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/6168/johnhall2.jpg

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/4733/johnhall3.jpg

Nice bike :thumbsup:

You racing this weekend at snet?

[barwel1992]

rai check last few pages if you haven't already

[Rai86]

Ah right, that will teach me for not reading it all

[barwel1992]

lol ;)

[irie]

Nice bike :thumbsup:

You racing this weekend at snet?

On balance that might not be a wonderful idea! lol :)

[Rai86]

On balance that might not be a wonderful idea! lol :)

lol sorry mate, didnt read. or i did ish but nuffing really sank in 8-[

[yorkie_chris]

Consultant took the dressings off today.

Well that wasn't f*cking keyhole surgery, was it? http://www.therevcounter.com/customstyles/trcdefault/smilies/shocked.gif http://www.therevcounter.com/customstyles/trcdefault/smilies/shocked.gif http://www.therevcounter.com/customstyles/trcdefault/smilies/shocked.gif

Bah, chicks dig scars. MTFU :-P

[irie]

Bike and myself are now repaired so racing at Cadwell this weekend (26/27th)!

Note the nice mini hugger from 'bald git' on this forum - saves me having to clean the shock and spring :D

[Malarki]

That is a very special bike. Are spectators allowed to come?

[irie]

Of course, just a few £ entrance fee. Going to be a lovely sunny weekend with good racing.

[davepreston]

you'll know if its us spectating, we would be the ones with the sign
in org we trust

[irie]

Had to get rid of the K9 BPF fork internals because they were utter sh1te and put in some 30mm Ohlins internals (thanks Steve).

Steve Jordan also set the forks up and tweaked them on the track. Bloody hell, you can be the mad axe man on this bike - all I have to do now is to learn how to ride it properly. :D

Got a 13th at Brands but that was a bit lucky TBH because I haven't ridden a bike with clip-ons within living memory! F*cking amazing bike.

[GrahamB]

Do Dymag make an SV-specific real wheel, or do you have to modify them to get the chain-line right?

[yorkie_chris]

Dymag don't make anything now, they've gone under :(

[yorkie_chris]

Had to get rid of the K9 BPF fork internals because they were utter sh1te and put in some 30mm Ohlins internals (thanks Steve).

In the OP it said "ohlins internals" in the forks?

Was this some sort of ohlins kit piston for the BPF* you had, or stock GSXR setup that was sh*te?

*i.e not funny cartridge like the ohlins 30mm

[GrahamB]

Ah, thought I'd heard they'd been bought up and production re-started?
If not, shame... but long time since they've had the high-level cred of Marchesini et al.

[irie]

In the OP it said "ohlins internals" in the forks?

Was this some sort of ohlins kit piston for the BPF* you had, or stock GSXR setup that was sh*te?

*i.e not funny cartridge like the ohlins 30mm

The OP did say Ohlins internals in the forks, but we tried the forks with the stock GSXR internals which turned out to be sh1te which is why we put in the Ohlins 30mm kit and I sold my wife into slavery to pay for them. ;)

[GrahamB]

The OP did say Ohlins internals in the forks, but we tried the forks with the stock GSXR internals which turned out to be sh1te which is why we put in the Ohlins 30mm kit and I sold my wife into slavery to pay for them. ;)

Life time slavery? Should have been able to get some TTX20's for that... :)

Out of curiosity, in which way were the BPF innards sh1te?

[yorkie_chris]

Well that depends what she looks like. Pics so we can decide if you could have afforded AK-gas cartridges :smt082

[irie]

Life time slavery? Should have been able to get some TTX20's for that... :)

Out of curiosity, in which way were the BPF innards sh1te?

It was because the bike always had chatter when on the side no matter what was done with the air gap etc. Basically the bike is too light to make the forks work properly (it weighs 151.8kg ready to ride but no fuel).

[irie]

Well that depends what she looks like. Pics so we can decide if you could have afforded AK-gas cartridges :smt082

Pic.

[irie]

Obviously not even worth a pair of bent SV forks. http://www.jonrb.com/emoticons/cry_blownose.gif

[GrahamB]

Yeah, but you already had a replacement front carbon Dymag on the tab... :smt003

[yorkie_chris]

Lol:smt003

It was because the bike always had chatter when on the side no matter what was done with the air gap etc. Basically the bike is too light to make the forks work properly (it weighs 151.8kg ready to ride but no fuel).

Did you try revalving them and such?

[irie]

Lol:smt003

Did you try revalving them and such?

Steve Jordan (Ohlins technician of Steve Jordan Motorcycles [of course]) tried everything but couldn't make them work. He even took the bike out at Cadwell ... and had to keep picking the bike up off his knee! :smt009

(When I went out before him I wasn't happy putting the bike on its side, and told him so. I didn't know what was wrong but I had absolutely no confidence in the front end).

[irie]

Yeah, but you already had a replacement front carbon Dymag on the tab... :smt003

Can't get Dymag CF any more, it's BST.

[rowdy]

Can't get Dymag CF any more, it's BST.
Apparently you can get relaunched 3 and 5 spoke magnesium dymags, with CF available at a later date, according to this website www.csaperformancewheels.com (http://www.csaperformancewheels.com)

[irie]

Apparently you can get relaunched 3 and 5 spoke magnesium dymags, with CF available at a later date, according to this website www.csaperformancewheels.com (http://www.csaperformancewheels.com)

It's been "at a later date" for quite some time now ... http://forums.sv650.org/images/icons/icon12.gif

[GrahamB]

It's been "at a later date" for quite some time now ... http://forums.sv650.org/images/icons/icon12.gif

Ah, that was what gave me the idea they were back in production...

Still, BST is not exactly a cheap alternative, so point still applies :)

I saw that K-tech have a replacement valve arrangement for the BPF's, but it works the same as the 30mm Ohlins: comp one side, rebound t'other. So might as well go with something known.

[yorkie_chris]

I think racetech do new pistons too. Not sure what the problem is caused by but the cartridge rather than BPF seems more mature technology. I don't think BPF solves and more problems than it creates but I have not messed about with them.