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Triv650
27-03-10, 10:55 PM
Just wondering if anyone could share their thoughts on a few alternatives to the SV650. As good a bike as it is, there must be a few alternatives that are similar in some ways.

zsv650
27-03-10, 11:22 PM
how about a trx850 awesome bike's they are jap engine with italian style frame.

Liam9188
28-03-10, 12:17 AM
Depending on your budget, I've heard good things about the new divvy. Might finally be a bike in the same class as the SV to rival it on all levels, although it is considerably more expensive

carternd
28-03-10, 12:37 AM
Old fazer, ER6, Versys, Hornet?
Bandit even?

Depends what you want and can spend. SV is an amazingly versatile bike.

yorkie_chris
28-03-10, 11:50 AM
Loads, depends what you want.

If you want a cheap middleweight semi-sporty cheap to insure V twin that you can buy cheap... No.

Ricerocket
28-03-10, 03:34 PM
What? Are there other bikes out there :)

Dicky Ticker
28-03-10, 04:51 PM
Being honest the SV is not the be all and end all of bikes, it all depends on what you want.Even with just the SV some prefer curvy,some naked and others pointy,half faired and fully faired. Budget or more expensive,individual taste.

carternd
28-03-10, 10:01 PM
Being honest the SV is not the be all and end all of bikes, it all depends on what you want.Even with just the SV some prefer curvy,some naked and others pointy,half faired and fully faired. Budget or more expensive,individual taste.

Crack out the pitchforks and torches - it's time for a lynching!

dizzyblonde
28-03-10, 10:07 PM
There is a Cagiva Raptor 650. It has an SV lump in there, and I should imagine is far superior to the HysungthingddoodlewatsitsnameIforgottenbike, that uses the engine.

But then thats not your question is it?

If its anything like its big brother then it would be a crackin alternative, but not too many about.

Or you could go Gladys ;-)

yorkie_chris
28-03-10, 10:08 PM
Dizzy the hyosung uses a hyosung engine not a suzuki one AFAIK.

Being honest the SV is not the be all and end all of bikes, it all depends on what you want.Even with just the SV some prefer curvy,some naked and others pointy,half faired and fully faired. Budget or more expensive,individual taste.

I do think the SV is strange as a bike as there's not really anything in the same bracket.

Look at 600s, if you want a slow one there's is the bandit, fazer, hornet and probably some kwak one too. If you want a fast one theres a lot of initials, most of them R.
If you want a parallel twin commuter/DAS bike there's a GS500, ER5, CB5.

There's not really anything that's comparable to the SV in such terms. Only thing that seems similar is kawa ER6 and stuff, but they're a completely different engine layout and lots more expensive.

dizzyblonde
28-03-10, 10:18 PM
Dizzy the hyosung uses a hyosung engine not a suzuki one AFAIK.



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I see, did they not use them when they first brought it out though? Before they had the technology to go there own.....Memory fades...

Liam9188
28-03-10, 10:23 PM
A middle weight twin with decent handling other than the SV? well that would be the monster that the SV was ripped off from then.

Not that its a bad thing, suzuki knew they could make something as pretty or cool as the duke, so they made it more powerful and reliable. and the SV is a great bike for it. Certain people are probably about to shout 4valve per cylinder and liquid cooling at me im sure...

dizzyblonde
28-03-10, 10:25 PM
A middle weight twin with decent handling other than the SV? well that would be the monster that the SV was ripped off from then.

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No that was the Raptor, as it had the same designer;)
I was always led to believe the Sv was modelled on its big cousin the TL.

yorkie_chris
28-03-10, 10:28 PM
the SV was ripped off from then.

They don't look the same bike at all, the SV copied the TL styling.
Fair enough the gladys is a monster rip off same as every other "factory streetfighter" just extra poofy.

I won't start slagging it off properly other than to say I would not have one given.
Well, maybe a bit. The monsters a POS, they call it the wheezing wop for a reason. They don't handle particularly well and I'm informed they're a tw*t to work on. All the expense of ducati ownership without any of the perceived advantage.

Liam9188
28-03-10, 10:31 PM
I'm not talking styling, although they do both have a trellis frame. I mean in that its a sporty middle weight V twin. Ducati had been making them for a good while before suzuki saw the brilliance of the idea, and the rest of the japs never really caught on...

yorkie_chris
28-03-10, 10:38 PM
But the monster isn't really a credible alternative, maybe the kawa is, but they're twice the price.

simesb
29-03-10, 12:04 AM
But the monster isn't really a credible alternative, maybe the kawa is, but they're twice the price.

According to the Suzuki and Kawasaki websites:

SV650S: £5449
ER-6f: £5599

If I were buying again, I might very well get the Kwak.

thulfi
29-03-10, 12:56 AM
Well I picked my 02 curvy, 11,000 miles for £1,700, although it did have a micron exhaust and fancy yellow wheels.

My er6, 2006, same mileage, no addons except a top box at the time was £2,300. £600 difference aint peanuts, but my current bike is 4 yrs younger lets not forget. Perhaps I paid too much for my SV, or got a good deal on the er6,who knows.

Similar bikes on paper, but they defo don't feel/handle the same. SV felt much sportier and more like a toy. The er6 has my back almost straight and is more comfy, except on the motorway where I think the SV's fairing and position did a better job - too much surface area exposed on the er6, and it hurts my back with prolonged rides. When I get my SV sorted, I'm not sure which one I would get rid of to be honest. Kind of odd, but I do miss my SV's choke.

startrek.steve
29-03-10, 08:34 AM
Dizzy the hyosung uses a hyosung engine not a suzuki one AFAIK.
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Its a chinese SV clone innit? even looks like a pointy!
Steve

fizzwheel
29-03-10, 08:45 AM
If you want a cheap middleweight semi-sporty cheap to insure V twin that you can buy cheap... No.

He's right.

It fits in a funny place in the market. I honestly think the only alternative is an ER6. But if you want clipons like the SVS I dont think theres anything out there, especially if you want to buy new.

Stig
29-03-10, 08:47 AM
The Hyosung is not comparable to the SV apart from it has a v-twin engine. That's the only comparable component. One is a reasonable cost effective fun motorcycle and the other is a cheap piece of sh*te that falls apart almost instantly.

There are people out there that would describe the SV in that manner too. :lol:

AndyBrad
29-03-10, 09:03 AM
to be fair i think the moster and er6 are the best alternatives.

while the little monster may be slower and less reliable than the suz it is an alternative in the same ethos. remember some people dont buy bikes for pub bragging rights some people buy them because of the way they make them feel, even if they are a bugger to work on/expensive/slow in comparison to there rivals. :) these things aint rational sometimes and neither are the people that own them :)

yorkie_chris
29-03-10, 09:26 AM
According to the Suzuki and Kawasaki websites:

SV650S: £5449
ER-6f: £5599

If I were buying again, I might very well get the Kwak.

You can't buy an ER6 for £1000, because they only came out in 2005 or 6 or whatever it was.

these things aint rational sometimes and neither are the people that own them :)

People with ducatis, definitely not!

simesb
29-03-10, 09:31 AM
You can't buy an ER6 for £1000, because they only came out in 2005 or 6 or whatever it was.

You are not comparing apples with apples then are you? :confused:

yorkie_chris
29-03-10, 09:34 AM
One you can get within a reasonable student/apprentice/young persons budget, one you can't. What else you need to make chutney?