HELP Please! Nitromors on plastic bath [Archive] - SV650.org

Messie

07-04-10, 11:10 AM

I've done something stupid. I stripped the paint off the windowsill above my bath with nitromors, not taking enough care about where the melted paint scrapings fell.

Now I've come to clean it all up after finishing the new painting and papering, I find that I've got nasty orange melted paint in splodges over my plastic bath.

So far I've tried turps, nail varnish remover, a scourer and scouring cream, and even oven cleaner, but nothing has worked.

So, any other suggestions, not including get a new bath???

Jayneflakes

07-04-10, 11:24 AM

Oh heck! Is it staining to your bath or paint stuck to it? If it is staining, will strong bleach work to remove the colour? If it is paint, can you scrape it away with a sharp thin blade?

If it is really bad, can you get the bath sprayed out with a protective finish that will cover it up?

Messie

07-04-10, 11:30 AM

More like the paint is stuck to it. I've tried picking at it but that doesn't work.

Not sure about spraying it

AndyBrad

07-04-10, 11:43 AM

what type of bath is it!!! scratching the bath and using something like turps will damage your bath if its glass fiber.

probably the best option is to rub the entire bath down and repaint!!!! post a pic up tho and maybe we can advis better!

Messie

07-04-10, 11:54 AM

It's only a cheapo plastic one. Nothing I've tried yet has touched it - or the wretched paint!

Rub it down and repaint???? Seems a bit drastic

AndyBrad

07-04-10, 12:02 PM

pic!!

please :)

turps? but i would have thourght it would kill the bath?

Messie

07-04-10, 12:14 PM

OK here you go
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s148/messiemille/th_bath002.jpg (http://s151.photobucket.com/albums/s148/messiemille/?action=view&current=bath002.jpg)

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s148/messiemille/th_bath001.jpg (http://s151.photobucket.com/albums/s148/messiemille/?action=view&current=bath001.jpg)

and some of the stuff I've tried

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s148/messiemille/th_bath003.jpg (http://s151.photobucket.com/albums/s148/messiemille/?action=view&current=bath003.jpg)

maviczap

07-04-10, 12:14 PM

White spirit is supposed to neutralise Nitromoors

AndyBrad

07-04-10, 12:30 PM

white spirit or a bit of turps (but whipe it on and off very quickly and rinse) it may make the bath go cloudy tho so test it forst.

Messie

07-04-10, 12:33 PM

I've tried both and no joy or damage. I think the problem is I did it days ago and now it's well and truly dried, welded, itself to my bath.

Not happy :(

barwel1992

07-04-10, 12:34 PM

it might not be the best idea but why not try a tiny bit of nitromoors on one of the stains ?

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keith_d

07-04-10, 12:41 PM

Best I can suggest:

On an inconspicuous corner of the bath see if Nitromors will dissolve the plastic the bath is made from. If so you might be in some trouble because the paint is probably fused to the bath and you may have to sand smooth and repaint.

If not I'd consider using a spot of nitromors to soften the paint up again, then scraping it off with an old knife. Use kitchen towel dipped in nitromors to remove the last traces. (oh, and don't forget to wear gloves).

Keith.

Sudoxe

07-04-10, 02:30 PM

Vodka will fix that.

Take the bottle of Vodka, drink 1/2 of it and you won't be worried about the bath anymore... ;)

Messie

07-04-10, 02:34 PM

OK will try more nitromors. Homeopathic 'medicine' relies on treating like with like, so here goes

Messie

07-04-10, 02:34 PM

Vodka will fix that.

Take the bottle of Vodka, drink 1/2 of it and you won't be worried about the bath anymore... ;)

Lol. That's the final plan!

PsychoCannon

07-04-10, 02:49 PM

worst worst case just get artistic and paint the entire bath, say it's a designer =p

Specialone

07-04-10, 02:54 PM

What about brake fluid, its less agressive than nitromors at removing paint, takes longer so should be a bit milder, albeit never tried it on a bath.

Jayneflakes

07-04-10, 02:55 PM

worst worst case just get artistic and paint the entire bath, say it's a designer =p

:cheers:

Genius idea... Problem solved. :smt083

zachl

07-04-10, 02:55 PM

put nitromors on a cotton wool pad, leave it on the paint, shud scrap off after a while, baths already ruined so cant make it worse

Messie

07-04-10, 03:14 PM

Well that didn't work :(. Made the plastic go soft and I could scrape some paint off with a blade but it actually took the whole surface off. I'm giving up for today and will cheer myself up by arranging the nice new fluffy towels and bathmats instead. In the morning I'll go and find another type of paint stripper that might shift the paint but leave the plastic.

It it really possible to paint a bath though? A plastic one? I know you can paint new enamel onto an enamel one, but plastic? If so I might give it a go.

zachl

07-04-10, 03:35 PM

is there nothing cheaper you can do?

ie keep a nice little stack of clean towels at the end of the bath? or keep one hanging over it?

i personally wouldnt be trying to respray it, for the cost of it you'd be better getting a new tub, or living with it... could always get some white paint and just over the orange bits so its less noticeable

Speedy Claire

07-04-10, 03:52 PM

Could you not claim on your house insurance... accidental damage? then have a new bath fitted. I think you`ve tried most of the cleaning products available lol. I`m sure it`s driving you mad after all your hard work re-decorating, is such a shame.

Messie

07-04-10, 04:29 PM

maviczap

07-04-10, 05:12 PM

It it really possible to paint a bath though? A plastic one? I know you can paint new enamel onto an enamel one, but plastic? If so I might give it a go.

Unlikely, it'll be cheaper to buy a new plastic bath

Speedy Claire

07-04-10, 05:39 PM

Well, if you ignore the nasty orange stains, the bathroom looks lovely. Victorian Moroccan distressed chic is what my dear daughter called it. Needs more plants in my opinion and my black and white picture of Venice

Claire - I had thought of the household insurnace, but having read the label (too late!) it seems I should've taken care to protect the plastic! I was warned - or would've been if I'd stopped for a mo to read the destructions.

Thanks for the help tho guys xx

I`d think along the lines of saying you spilt the bottle of nitromorse down the bath by accident... I doubt they`d come out to investigate it as it`d only be a low claim. Or maybe say the window was open and blew the bits into the bath? I wouldn`t advocate fraudulent claims but in your case it was a genuine accident and it`s such a shame :(

dirtydog

07-04-10, 05:45 PM

TBH I would just live with it or fit a new bath, baths aren't that expensive.

My normal merchants does acrylic baths for just over £80 or steel for £85 obviously fitting will cost a bit more unless you can do it yourself

Whitehouse

07-04-10, 05:47 PM

if the baths plastic i take it its not painted on top? if not can you flat the areas affected with a bit of emery cloth until its gone then repolish, depends on how deep the paints bonded with the plastic though

zachl

07-04-10, 05:52 PM

Cymraeg_Atodeg

07-04-10, 06:15 PM

I take it no-one else on here is a chemist?

Nitromors main constituent is Dichloromethane (chlorinated solvent,) so, this will react with the bath plastic and cause the colouring of the paint (which I am assuming is Solvent Based [Toluene/Xylene]) hence the use of Nitromors, to "seep" into the plastic.

So, you options are thus;

Live with a discoloured bath
Paint the bath
Buy a new bath...

Whoever said white-spirit "neutralises" Nitromors needs shooting! lol

White Spirit is a non-chlorinated solvent, so, dilutes nitromors (as they are both solvents), but, does not neutralise it.

Chemistry lesson over :-)

seedy100

07-04-10, 06:31 PM

And, slithering in from left field ...................... T Cut.

bobbleheadbarne

07-04-10, 06:43 PM

dirtydog

07-04-10, 07:20 PM

I take it no-one else on here is a chemist?

Er no I is a plumber ;)

Cymraeg_Atodeg

07-04-10, 07:27 PM

Er no I is a plumber ;)

You can fit a new one then, I can just explain how the old one was screwed up :-D

skeetly

07-04-10, 07:34 PM

Careful with the solvents. You can cause a lot of damage to plastic baths with solvents.
Tile grout powder is abrasive enough for plastic bath gel coats. If it *has* seeped in then try some sandpaper to take some of the stained gel coat off and then use tile grout powder to smooth it all up again.
Once you wear through the gel coat (you'll know when you do) you're stuffed....

bald git

07-04-10, 08:26 PM

if its gelcoated fibreglass bath, then it should not be damaged by terps or white spirit. try acetone or nail varnish remover.

bald git

07-04-10, 08:37 PM

For difficult to remove coatings, removal can be speeded up by scratching the coating with coarse sandpaper, but be careful not to deeply scratch the underlying surface. Then apply the remover and cover with plastic film to keep the remover wet use the paste type remover good luck
noooo!!!! dont use anything coarse. if acetone does not work, then sharpen a piece of wood, eg cloths peg and gently try and pick off nitromoors. when worst of its off, 1000 grit wet or dry used wet with a bit off washing up liquid added. finish with plastic polish to get the shine back.

bald git

07-04-10, 08:50 PM

bear this in mind, plastic/fibreglass baths are not hand laid up. the gellcoat is sprayed on as are the fibres. so the thickness of the gellcoat is 0.5mm at most.

Dicky Ticker

07-04-10, 08:52 PM

+1 For BG-- Messie,but only on the damage surface,or as small an area as possible, and then if you can't get it back with polish touch up the damaged area to match and then polish with a rubbing compound and plastic polish

I HAVE REPAIRED GEL-COAT ON BOATS BY THIS METHOD and if done with care maybe not 100% but such a slight difference that it hardly notices.

M.B I would suggest using white gelcoat repair which you can colour match,available from any boat Chandler