Hair dye - mainly for the girlies and we're in IB so please don't moan at me!

[missyburd]

Hi de ho!

Right so my issue is this, I wish to redye my hair red before the yorkies go on their jollies but I know it will probably fade in the sun. That I can cope with but is their any possibility it will change colour? As that would be not so good :-s

Point of interest which may help your reply:

1) we are going to Torreveija, Spain
and
2) I use Nice and Easy non permanent. I want to just go with permanent as I'm getting bored of dye washing out...tips?


Aye fangyooooo :-D

[lily]

If you are using a permanent dye, get some coloured hair shampoo as well (i think some brands do some for red hair)

If you do it sooner rather than closer to the holiday, then the chemicals in the swimming pools are less likely to effect the dye. But to be honest I have never had my hair change before of swimming pools. It's mainly the sun that makes it lighter no matter what colour it is dyed!

[454697819]

How bright do you want to go, how thick is your hair?

Kitten used XXL Red once due to the thickness of her hair and the length we used two dye kits and left it on for about 25 minutes (twice the normal time)

It was very very red, whats more is it went even brighter over the summer in the sunshine..

It looked ace. :-)

(oh it stains everywhere else though and appears to still leech from the hair in the shower)

[missyburd]

Well I've used the non permanent as mentioned which turns it a lovely vibrant red for a few days then it fades. I was just planning on using the permanent version of the colour I've been using, I have fine shoulder length har so I can get away with one bottle...

Lily, I'm not planning on going near swimming pools, we'll have the sea :) Although of course that brings the problem of salt in...

[Quedos]

Red is not known for changing colour the same way that blonde does. As Lily say do is sooner rather than later give the hair a chance to settle and if you can wash it a couple of time before goin gon holiday and just before you go - give it a wonderful soak in a hair mask for coloured hair - will help protect it from the sun just a little bit better. THe colour shampoos are always good VT gave me one when I was down and its cracking ( will be eternally thankfully for her introducing me to that its a god send! Thanks VT) Prob is I can't remember whats its call.
I use Schwarkoff(sp) XXL though I have gone with Unlimited Gloss this time as it does tend to loss it shine so quick and it doesn't fade so mauch either.

I would PM Von Teese and get the name of thatshampoo and go get red!

And yes like Nos says the red leeches for a while from the hair - so no white towels or pillows!

HTH

[missyburd]

See with the non permanent it doesn't leach from my hair while dry, are you saying it will if i go permanent?

And I've tried one shampoo for coloured hair, Dove, and it made my head itch like mad :-(

We go on sunday so if I dye it today you think that will be ok? still dont know whether I should just stick with the non permanent dye i've been using the last couple of times (which isn't meant to turn your hair bright red - its mahogany but just seems to go bright red with my hair colour!)

[Speedy Claire]

Not too sure on the red shades Maria but a few of the girls I work with all say that the red fades quite quickly. Using a colour shampoo will, I`m sure, help but I`m wondering if you`d be better of (whilst on holiday) using one of the specialist shampoo`s for swimming? I bought one once in boots and it was a shampoo specifically for holidays and stopped the chlorine and salt from the sea stripping your hair of colour and nutrients.

[missyburd]

Thanks for the tips girlies! and chap :)

Claire I like the boots shampoo idea, will go have a nosy today. I've just rung a mate of mine who dyes her hair every colour under the sun and is a trainee hairdresser and she says I should be ok to go permanent with the colour iv been using...also, because we're only on holiday a week then the sun shouldn't make that much difference to the colour. Salt could be an issue but I'll take the risk and use some protection stuff.

Cheers all :)

[dizzyblonde]

Red always fades quicker than other colours. One thing to remember though Maria, is that red is a complete sh!t to change from if you want to. Dylans godmother is a hairdresser, and she refuses to colour mine at all. Even though shell shove in 22 inch hair extensions, and dye it pink or purple!

Nice and Easy permanents are the ones I've always used....but I know someone who uses to Red 'Live' XXXL ones on her blonder than Dylans barnett, and it comes up absolutely stunning. They look a bit more faffy to me. Don't be disappointed if it don't come out the colour on the box, its all dependant on your own natural base colour.

Oh yeah....and watch the bath ;-0)

As for Dove....steer clear hun. Anything you need to know just give me a ring, and Andrea will answer what ever I ask her.

[missyburd]

Nice and Easy permanents are the ones I've always used....but I know someone who uses to Red 'Live' XXXL ones on her blonder than Dylans barnett, and it comes up absolutely stunning. They look a bit more faffy to me.

Oh yeah....and watch the bath ;-0)



My mate mentioned the live XXXL one, said it's great but yeah, i'm a bit dubious about switching dyes. I know I don't have any probs with the Nice&Easy so will stick to that for the moment....my natural hair colour is a mousy blonde and the dye i use is mahogany, dunno why but it brings my hair out a lush red. I want it to stay but then I'm thinking it might not be a good idea, i've got a few things coming up that might not agree with red hair....gah...stick with non permanent then I suppose!

[dizzyblonde]

My mate mentioned the live XXXL one, said it's great but yeah, i'm a bit dubious about switching dyes. I know I don't have any probs with the Nice&Easy so will stick to that for the moment....my natural hair colour is a mousy blonde and the dye i use is mahogany, dunno why but it brings my hair out a lush red. I want it to stay but then I'm thinking it might not be a good idea, i've got a few things coming up that might not agree with red hair....gah...stick with non permanent then I suppose!


How the hell did that quote me as Lily:-s

Yeah the reason being is because hair just isn't the colour you see. I am a mousy strawberry blonde. I aren't supposed to go near ash tone blondes, for fear of it turning green. Reason being is because my natural colour already holds a red pigmentation. You don't see it red, I ain't a gingernut, it just reacts in a way I don't expect.
I tried going for a slightly different shade of one that I use, and it went salmon pink! Andrea had to get the peroxide and one her own salon colours to tone it down:mad:

Its probably why yours reacts well to red, because you have slight red/warm tones already. Much the same as I have to use cooler shade blondes, as otherwise they look like I've been smoking too many fags! I still want red hair, might just go all pink instead;)

[missyburd]

I still want red hair, might just go all pink instead;)
That would be cool :) And as for Pete's reaction... ;-)

Ok I THINK i've decided to go non permanent again this time. I have a placement for a month at the start fo may and I'm not too sure they'd be happy if I turn up with bright red hair...so I'm probably better not going permanent lol.

[dizzyblonde]

That would be cool :) And as for Pete's reaction... ;-)

Ok I THINK i've decided to go non permanent again this time. I have a placement for a month at the start fo may and I'm not too sure they'd be happy if I turn up with bright red hair...so I'm probably better not going permanent lol.


hmmmmmm I'm sure I get where you're coming from with the pink;)

Depends where your placement is chick, I think most places accept it as the norm for even middle aged suited ladies, to turn up with a bright green patch of streaks in the fringe, so a full head of luscious red hair probably wouldn't be noticed. I agree though, best to test the water.
Personally I'd wait if I was in your shoes, especially going on yer jollies in the sun, I have the opposite effect, instead of fading mine just goes white:p

[Quedos]

Have fun whatever colour you go. I've mixed and matched dyes for years without any problems.
The permenant colour still leches when wet not when dry - and only when i wash it - not when it gets wet in the rain. I use XXXL all ths time and love it but I think my hair got used to going strange colours.
And enjoy your holibags too!!!

[ophic]

Practical option - just take some dye with you. If it fades... dye it again. Job done.

[barwel1992]

i dye my hair a lot, dyed it blue when i had my Mohawk and usually dye my hair once a month

the sun wont affect it that bad, its if you go in a pool with chlorine in it, BUT if you do it 2 weeks before hand then the hair will have had enough time to seal the colour in.

never had any problem doing it like that, ohh and use XXL stuff tiz the best ;)

[Milky Bar Kid]

I used to have red in my hair, before I joined the dark side, I always get it done at a hair dressers and always permenant. I found that with my hair, the red used to fade very quick, but then I was left with pink/orange faded hair which was a NIGHTMARE to strip! It's amazing how technical dying hair is!

[ophic]

...was a NIGHTMARE to strip!
Back when I had hair, I used to dye it black. It never faded and never stopped me stripping :p

[dizzyblonde]

I found that with my hair, the red used to fade very quick, but then I was left with pink/orange faded hair which was a NIGHTMARE to strip! It's amazing how technical dying hair is!

Like I said previously, red is the worst colour to get rid of. There are ways, which if they aren't done right can completely ruin your hair, turn it to straw and break it.

Good job my fairy godmother lady lives down the road(great at night when you've got a towel of embarrassment wrapped on yer noggin), charges me nothing, and fixes it:cheers:
She used to streak my hair pink, but I've watched her so often I can do it myself, and sometimes better:p

[kitkat]

I used the xxl and i found it very tricky to use, I was left with patches. I have been dyeing my own hair for about 30 years. Never stick to the same colour or make. In last 6 months I have been blond, red, blue, brown and now something called watermelon red. It never turns out like the colour on the box. Was going to go back to my natural brown but there is too much grey now

[Jabba]

I wish to redye my hair red before........... jollies

:-s

Each to their own, I say :thumbsup:

[missyburd]

Right then, thanks for all the posts peeps!

I have bought my normal stuff today and I am going to attempt to dye it MYSELF this evening (I usually have someone to help!). I think, after my placement I will be trying out this Schwarzkopf XXL, I've always loved purple hair so might have to have a play with it! :-D

Wish me luck tonight, it may all go quite wrong!



Good job my fairy godmother lady lives down the road(great at night when you've got a towel of embarrassment wrapped on yer noggin), charges me nothing, and fixes it:cheers:


She might be becoming my fairy godmum too at this rate! :-P

:-s

Each to their own, I say :thumbsup:

Not sure I'm quite with you there Jabba?

[Jabba]

Not sure I'm quite with you there Jabba?

I'll resist the opportunity for another quip......

"jollies" is a euphemism coital conjugation.

[missyburd]

I'll resist the opportunity for another quip......

"jollies" is a euphemism coital conjugation.
Ahhhh now I am with you ;-)


Wish me luck, I am a-going for it!

[MR UKI (1)]

Quiffs your man, he's always dying his ;)

[Von Teese]

Only just seen this thread and not really had the time to read through it all yet, so apologies if I repeat anything that anyone else has said.

Red - Fades quicker than any other colour but will stick like sh*t to a blanket once in.

I can obtain permanent products like the black I put in my hair and as I am a qualified hairdresser I am able to purchase the professional products.

I LOVE the Affinage range which leaves your hair very, very, very shiny and you can use the chilli red semi permanent to top it up. Also if you get sick of it (like I did recently with the black) there is colour eraser which is BRILLIANT and very effective in removing all but your natural colour.

Once the colour is in, there are other influences, chemicals in the pool which make blondes go green will be opposite on the colour wheel to red and therefore will make you more brunette. The sun will fade the colour faster than a queue disappears into Harrods on Sale day so you need something to protect that.

There are a number of professional products you can buy that will have a SPF in them and help prevent fading. I LOVE the Paul Michell 'The conditioner' which you leave in and then you cover it with 'super clean gel' which will protect your hair. Using a colour protective shampoo is a must if you are red and going in the sun.

If you need me to buy you any of the above products let me know. It also depends on how red you want to go.

Jen x

[missyburd]

Cheers Jen, really useful advice there :) Interesting that chlorine would make red more brunette!

I've just bought a little bottle of tresemme shampoo, supposed to have the uv filter thing in and general colour protector so hopefully I'll take to that better than Dove!

[Von Teese]

No probs, just let me know if you ever need anything.

Sooo........

erhm.......

I think I speak on behalf of the .org


PICTURES!!!!!

[metalangel]

Are you sure red fades more than anything? I had some bright fire engine red stuff and it lasted pretty much until it grew out. On the other hand I had some nice royal blue stuff and it started going green, turqoise, and even back to the bleached blonde in almost no time at all (after only a few showers too, I was standing in a pool of blue water, like being in a chemical toilet!). In the end I had to buy black permanent stuff to just go back to near-as-dammit normal.

Anyway, if you're getting it done, make sure you do your downstairs with it too :p

[missyburd]

Anyway, if you're getting it done, make sure you do your downstairs with it too :p
LOL!

[dizzyblonde]

well I do it upstairs where the carpet is dark blue, and go downstairs to get a pink bath, pink shower, pink face, pink everywhere. The end result on my hair is damn good, for do it yourself streaks(just like Aunty Andrea does) but directions pink is a very messy thing anywhere else!!