View Full Version : Router to Router Wirelessly - Can it be done?
plowsie
08-04-10, 09:12 AM
I'm trying to figure a way round throwing cables all over the house and not splash out on a wireless receiver on the xbox and came up with this maybe...
I have a spare wireless router, could I connect this up to the xbox with the ethernet cable and then connect wirelessly to the actual real wireless router downstairs that we all access from our PC's in the house to use the internet?
keith_d
08-04-10, 09:35 AM
I think 3-com offered router-to-router connectivity on one of their models. But it was limited to other units of the same type so pretty much useless for most of us.
I suspect your best bet will be to look for an access point on Fleabay which is effectively a wireless to 10-baseT bridge.
gettin2dizzy
08-04-10, 09:51 AM
yeah you can with a lot of routers. Just set it up as a wireless access point (WAP). Which model router is it?
Google is your friend :)
454697819
08-04-10, 10:04 AM
can be done... just not with my expensive net gear...
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Not really Stu unless its a feature of the router. You can buy wifi network range extenders to do this though.
Also, you can buy a wifi adapter that you can connect the Xbox to.
I did this with an old homehub I picked up for peanuts on ebay
http://www.jarviser.co.uk/jarviser/repeaterhubs.html
I worked with my billion adsl modem. Otherwise have a look at using powerline comtrend plugs for connecting up using the mains network in your house as an alternative
...Otherwise have a look at using powerline comtrend plugs for connecting up using the mains network in your house as an alternative
good idea, I use these to connect up my Slingbox at the other end of the house
plowsie
08-04-10, 11:28 AM
Like I say, I have a few routers kicking around at home, so was just being tight I suppose. Those Comtrend powerline plugs look a good idea.
gettin2dizzy
08-04-10, 12:09 PM
A lot of routers have this function as standard, and a lot of routers you can hack easily.
I use my laptop's wireless connection to connect my xbox to live... wirelessly :rolleyes:
Microsoft can get fudged if they think I'll pay £60 for a wireless card.
hindle8907
08-04-10, 12:17 PM
yeah i think some of the belkin range offer this feature and you bridge the connections i have never done this but im sure it can be done.
beabert
08-04-10, 12:24 PM
You need two identicle routers that support the function.
A good alternative is mains ethernet adaptors. One plugged in near router one near the xbox :-)
plowsie
08-04-10, 01:48 PM
yeah i think some of the belkin range offer this feature and you bridge the connections i have never done this but im sure it can be done.
This, I like to hear.
ThEGr33k
08-04-10, 01:57 PM
Just buy an Xbox wireless connector... easier.
hindle8907
08-04-10, 02:01 PM
This, I like to hear.
as beabert says they need to be the same model router and i belive it was some of the belink routers support it. i did look into doing it my self but ended with an alternative solution .
they dont have to be the same make as I've done it with different routers. the main things is if it has wds functionality as far as I can see
The BT Home Hub version 1 and 1.5 are designed to use "Wireless Repeaters" to extend the wireless range. These repeaters must support wireless distribution system (WDS). Any wireless router with WDS can behave as a wireless repeater or wireless access point if the DHCP IP address server is switched off. As there are a number of cheap BNIB Home Hubs on internet auction sites, such a Home Hub can be a cheaper alternative to purpose made repeaters. WDS will only support WEP encryption, not WPA.
The reason is that whereas WEP uses a "static" encryption key, WPA uses a Key Derivation Function where the same passphrase (that you enter in the admin system) can create many "dynamic" keys. Whereas a PC and a Hub can work together to agree a dynamic key, two home hubs cannot do that. It's WDS itself that cannot do that function.
hindle8907
08-04-10, 02:19 PM
(WDS) ... Thats it ... it was doing my headin trying to rember what it was called lol .
plowsie
08-04-10, 02:28 PM
Just buy an Xbox wireless connector... easier.
Thanks for your totally useless input Greek...Now fudge off and go speak about Falco's, you do it better!
ThEGr33k
08-04-10, 06:36 PM
Thanks for your totally useless input Greek...Now fudge off and go speak about Falco's, you do it better!
I work in IT, and I have done a great deal of work and training in setting up and running networks, in my opinion without a lot of knowledge and pretty special Wireless access points you wont get it to work. Most wireless works on the basis of peripherals having either built in wireless or a USB type thing, or if you go older those card things. I've never personally come across wire to wireless back to wire network.
Now ill fudge off as you say and leave you to have fun with some routers.
No thread on an internet forum asking for help with an X-Box would be complete without the following suggestion......
Bin it and buy a PS3
beabert
08-04-10, 11:41 PM
(WDS) ... Thats it ... it was doing my headin trying to rember what it was called lol .
yep rings a bell now too, been there tried it used my laptop instead.
Some routers offer a bridge mode, which is what you want. Effectively you want the router connected to the x-box to behave as a wireless network card. You don't need WDS or any of that as you're not trying to use the router as a repeater or extender - just a wireless client.
If your router doesn't do it, I think dedicated wireless bridges are relatively cheap.
What would be the point of extending the wifi network unless the device also provides you with a method to hard wire a device (like an Xbox) onto the extender.
keith_d
10-04-10, 04:04 AM
What would be the point of extending the wifi network unless the device also provides you with a method to hard wire a device (like an Xbox) onto the extender.
You might add a repeater to avoid the need to install Cat-5 wiring everywhere and improve signal strength.
For example, if the wireless network is in the spare room, but there's no coverage in the living room, you might consider adding a repeater in the hall to boost the signal downstairs.
madnlooney
10-04-10, 04:05 PM
the router you want to connect to xbox you need to go into the settings and set it up as an access point (AP)
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