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beabert
14-04-10, 12:05 AM
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article7094310.ece

Thoughts
gettin2dizzy
14-04-10, 01:02 AM
Hell yeah :thumbsup:

(read the article from the woman sexually abused by a man who was allowed to carry on practicing as a priest after being previously caught abusing kids)
BanannaMan
14-04-10, 02:36 AM
Good luck with that!
GWB should be arrested for war crimes but don't see that happening either.
Kalessin
14-04-10, 10:37 AM
GWB should be arrested for war crimes but don't see that happening either.

History (and justice) is decided by the winners.
barwel1992
14-04-10, 11:18 AM
off with his head ;)
Sally
14-04-10, 11:22 AM
Won't have to worry about arresting him...

Hes visiting Glasgow on his visit ;)

Good luck with that :laughat:
Messie
14-04-10, 11:41 AM
I'd help fund the best Barrister money can afford if it would make him and the rest of the Catholic priests own up to and face the consequences of their child abusing actions
Drew Carey
14-04-10, 11:53 AM
Thats quite an interesting story. However, I agree with one of the comments made on there - Should this actually be allowed by the courts, it will probably be overuled by the queen.

Personally, I think all preists who are found guilty should be treated like any other pedo....locked up and registered as a sex offender. Secondly, any clergyman found guilty of covering up the fact, should again be treated as an accomplice. But as for the pope, he may have wrote some difficult words, but that is in itself not illegal. Unless he is found guilty of covering it up by a court, nowt wrong there really.
Zombie Jesus
14-04-10, 11:53 AM
http://wegoats.com/files/pope-benedict-palpatine.jpg.jpeg
Messie
14-04-10, 11:55 AM
This Pope did cover it up after it was tried in court. let the priest carry on after he was found guilty.

He's a guilty as any one doing the abuse.
Raf
14-04-10, 11:57 AM
I want to see what happens. Either way, it will tell a lot about the state of society. Over here, the people sees the pope as human answerable to the laws of this world. But go to a country like Brazil, where a large part of society still sees the pope, cardinals & priests are the direct voice of god and above the law, an act like arresting the pope will cause all sorts of outrage, calls of blasphemy & threats of a not very Christian nature. Oh, where is my pop corn? :D
Messie
14-04-10, 12:07 PM
Yes I realise that which is one reason why are one of the best country's to press the charges. We are not particularly religious, well at least church and state are separate, and the Queen is the Head of the Church of England, which is protestant in essence
simesb
14-04-10, 12:16 PM
Patently not going to happen. The Pope is a Head of State and is therefore immune from prosecution.
Messie
14-04-10, 12:25 PM
That is a debatable point also. The state that he is head of, the Vatican, is not recognised by the UN as a full state. They are given observers rights only as it was some sort of scam (can't remember the details) to get them out of a fix with Mussolini
simesb
14-04-10, 12:34 PM
That is a debatable point also. The state that he is head of, the Vatican, is not recognised by the UN as a full state. They are given observers rights only as it was some sort of scam (can't remember the details) to get them out of a fix with Mussolini

It may not be a UN member state, but its Sovereignty is recognised.
Messie
14-04-10, 12:39 PM
It may not be a UN member state, but its Sovereignty is recognised.


Is it? By whom? By anyone that matters? It can't issue its own passports for example
simesb
14-04-10, 12:43 PM
Is it? By whom? By anyone that matters? It can't issue its own passports for example

The FCO (http://www.fco.gov.uk/en/travel-and-living-abroad/travel-advice-by-country/country-profile/europe/holy-see/?profile=all) for starters!
Drew Carey
14-04-10, 12:49 PM
Here you go.....all the facts of "State or not state" etc.....

http://www.ejiltalk.org/can-the-pope-be-arrested-in-connection-with-the-sexual-abuse-scandal/
Messie
14-04-10, 12:51 PM
That's a very interesting read, most of which I didn't know. I was working under a couple of reports that seriously questioned whether the Pope could be seen as a full HoS and whether the Holy See/Vatican was truly a full State.

I will also watch with interest the outcome of this. If anyone has the conviction and connections to pull off such a charge, then Richard Dawkins if the man