£400 an Hour

[gettin2dizzy]

Dentist? Private doctor? Lawyer?



Nope! Just London Borough of Lewisham parking prices.

I was 6 minutes late returning to my car so got slapped with a £40 fine (£80 if I want to contest it ...)

Any good sites for trying to contest the bugger?


I moved to London 2 days ago, and I already find it a c*** :rolleyes:

[Bluepete]

You already got a discount!

I thought £400 was a bit rich!!

Pete ;)

[davepreston]

400 quid i could set you up for a night with blue pete for that :)
,usual 10% "agents" fee for me pete

[Stuuk1]

Haha, anywhere in london is crap.

[G]

Pepipoo is the only real site... To be fair though they are fairly on the ball with making sure everything is done by the book nowdays, so it may be hard... Seen as you were actually in the wrong lol

[lukemillar]

Haha, anywhere in london is crap.

Says the man who lives in Scumbridge Wells

[Bluefish]

2 days and first parking ticket bummer, get used to them though there will be more.

[timwilky]

Don't worry, it can get worse.

Family friend moved to London, got two parking tickets outside his house whilst waiting for permit to arrive. Then the car towed and had to pay for that as well.

Of course the council took 6 weeks to send his permit and in the meantime 4 more tickets.

At appeal he got everything back, as he had applied for a permit 2 weeks before he moved in. Rejected as he was not currently a resident but rejection sent to address he had vacated 2 weeks after he had moved in.

[SoulKiss]

Try a PM to Spiderman...

[Viney]

2 days and first parking ticket bummer, get used to them though there will be more.Not if he parks legally and returns within the designated time. It would be the same ANYWHERE if you over stay your welcome in a parking bay, not just london.

However, some boroughs are more 'alert' than others. Croydon being the worst that i have come across. They will tow you about 5 mons after they issue a ticket.

[Bluefish]

Being legally parked in London does not stop you getting a ticket, it reduces the chances, but it still happens.

[Viney]

Really? How so? If you are legally parked and get a ticket, which i dont think is the case, then you have the right to appeal and win.

As i say, its not just london, this could happen everywhere.

[Davies]

Really? How so? If you are legally parked and get a ticket, which i dont think is the case, then you have the right to appeal and win.

As i say, its not just london, this could happen everywhere.

Yep, Viney's right, can happen anywhere.

I did get a ticket on Devonshire Place once where the parking attendant slapped a penalty notice over my pay and display ticket, took a picture and then removed the penalty charge notice. I knew nothing of it until I got a PCN in the post some time later supported by his "evidence". I appealed it and won with a hell of a lot of help from Spidey, but it was still a pain in the ar$e.

[gettin2dizzy]

2 days and first parking ticket bummer, get used to them though there will be more.

Apparently I just need to 'get used' to London. Is that like being covered in **** so long you don't smell it? :rolleyes:

[Viney]

If you dont like, bugger off form whence you came ;) :lol: Remember, you came here, you wernt invited. You still havent got the Coffees in yet, or cakes for that matter.

Its the land of oppurtunity dont you know.

[gettin2dizzy]

I'll frith it up a bit then. Your shandy is better than I thought, I'll give you that! :thumbsup:

[Viney]

:lol:

[ricky]

haha welcome to lewisham,

have fun with the parking shop mate, they all seam to read of a script nothing more no mater how many diff questions you ask its all a text book answer

[jacksuzukisv650]

Thats cheap i got done done outside my house in london lol 60 pound

[gettin2dizzy]

Thats cheap i got done done outside my house in london lol 60 pound

Just aswell your location doesn't say Sidcup. Because that is where it is illegally parked at the mo :rolleyes:

[sloppy joe]

A northern mate of mine once remarked, 'there are two kinds of people in London; c**ts, and c**ts in suits'.

He may have pulled the quote from elsewhere, and its not necessarily my opinion, but it made beer come out of my nose when he said it.

[gettin2dizzy]

Just to follow this thread up; I got a £60 bus lane fine on the same day too.

Bleedin Lewisham council.

[yorkie_chris]

What the bloody hell is the point of having numberplate fitted? Surely there's less chance of being caught with that and it's £30 for that ain't it?

[gettin2dizzy]

Just received ANOTHER through the post today, jesus christ! :(

PCN is for parking in a residential area at 14.23pm, during the 1-3pm 'permit holder only' time. Now for some background:

Location - Residential street in KENT, not frickin' London. 'The ****ing garden of ****ing england' - KENT.
Road - Very quiet, no through traffic, no congestion, loads of empty spaces all day
Parking restrictions - 1-3pm permit holders only
Fine - £100. No 'discount'
Other options - There is NO FREE PARKING anywhere around here at all. None. Zip. What ****ing choice have I got?

I think I'm just going to sell the ****ing car. I'm not paying £100 / month to these ********s (last time I checked, I pay their wages)


I've never had a fine in way over 100,000 miles, then 3 in 6 weeks! I'm not a numpty; they're just ****ing nazis down here. My life involves having to leave my car on the odd occasion, you know to work, eat, ****. Is this asking too much?!

Also the '28 days' to appeal system is simply extortion. I have no idea how a council can operate such a racket.

Insurance £700, Tax £180, Fines (so far :rolleyes: ) £200, MOT £50
...
That's 34 'spot fines'. I wonder why I bother.

[CoolGirl]

Location - Residential street in KENT, not frickin' London. 'The ****ing garden of ****ing england' - KENT.


That'll be the 'London Borough' of Bromley, Kent.
Same deal as the 'London Borough' of Croydon, Surrey; the 'London Borough' of Redbridge, Essex etc.:smt120

[gettin2dizzy]

That'll be the 'London Borough' of Bromley, Kent.
Same deal as the 'London Borough' of Croydon, Surrey; the 'London Borough' of Redbridge, Essex etc.:smt120

That's what I don't understand. How come I live in Kent, yet can receive the £100 maximum parking fine specifically for London. Where am I?! :rolleyes:

[gettin2dizzy]

Has anyone contested them?

I've been to look at the space, and I can't find any glaring errors. I just don't want to land myself with an even bigger fine, I'm skint as it is.

[G]

Just park and drive where your actually allowed to! It's not really that hard surely.

[gettin2dizzy]

Just park and drive where your actually allowed to! It's not really that hard surely.
I know what you mean. I've lived in Newcastle, Manchester and Cardiff and never had a ticket. How difficult can it be surely?!

Well in 3 months I've only parked there once, and it's only between 1-3pm that the parking restrictions apply. Needless to say I got a ticket for that 2 hour window...

I'm living in Kent, and need to use my car for work. I have no drive, and there is no free parking AT ALL around here. The only place I can 'get away' with it is where the parking restriction signs are damaged, so I know I can't get ticketed. When these three(!) spaces are full, how can I park my car legally when there are no other options around? Park it up the road in the NCP for £20 a day? :rolleyes:
I don't live in Westminster, so don't expect every single residential area in a suburban Kentish town to have blanket zones enforced.

My main issue is that the appeal process is just extortion. You normally have 14 days to pay a reduced fine (50%), but by contesting the fine you will lose that discount. Both of my last fines I would have contested, but I can't afford to gamble with an extra £100 of fines and loads of my time. Pay the fine and the case is closed, and can't be appealed.

[CoolGirl]

I know what you mean. I've lived in Newcastle, Manchester and Cardiff and never had a ticket. How difficult can it be surely?!



I'm living in Kent, and need to use my car for work. I have no drive, and there is no free parking AT ALL around here. The only place I can 'get away' with it is where the parking restriction signs are damaged, so I know I can't get ticketed. When these three(!) spaces are full, how can I park my car legally when there are no other options around? Park it up the road in the NCP for £20 a day? :rolleyes:

you could try paying for a resident's parking permit? certainly works out cheaper than the fines!

[gettin2dizzy]

you could try paying for a resident's parking permit? certainly works out cheaper than the fines!

So would cloned plates :rolleyes:

I don't live within the parking zone so can't apply. I'm on a main street that has no parking at all, so the zone ends 50 yards from my house.

[Stuuk1]

Says the man who lives in Scumbridge Wells

Oh, you noticed...;)

[Sid Squid]

Haha, anywhere in london is crap.
My house is nice, so's my street, the area I live in and plenty of other parts too.

[Stuuk1]

My house is nice, so's my street, the area I live in and plenty of other parts too.

For parking..

[gettin2dizzy]

For parking..
You can park your Lambo anywhere as long as it has Arab writing on the reg ;)

[Richie]

I and two of my colleges got 5 extra's ... the equivalent to 120 hours each of community service a few years ago for parking outside of where we worked... we were just picking our kit up after an exercise...

So whilst on our punishment I rang the pain store (QM Tec's) and got some line paint and painted 5 parking bays outside our hanger.
:0)

I then also painted the word "NO" next to the word PARKING where the ***** who gave us the extras worked :0)

Later on that morning his boss apologized on his behalf and gave him a few bottles of Port fine in the mess and told us not to bother with the rest of the punishment :0)

[Richie]

You can park your Lambo anywhere as long as it has Arab writing on the reg ;)

or buy an Ex diplomatic car and put the old plates back on :0)
now that sounds like a plan.

[Lozzo]

If you don't like it, you can always bugger off to where you were originally. No-one forced you to move there, no-one forced you to park where it's not allowed.

As it is, you knew about the lack of parking when you moved to the house you're in, so you have to take the chance of getting ticketted if you break the parking laws. It's not extortion, it's life in London and if you want to live there yo have to play by the rules or pay the fines. Whatever you do, can you please cut the whinging, it gets tiresome after a while.

I hear the Scottish traffic wardens in Inverness are very easy going.

[gettin2dizzy]

I and two of my colleges got 5 extra's ... the equivalent to 120 hours each of community service a few years ago for parking outside of where we worked... we were just picking our kit up after an exercise...

So whilst on our punishment I rang the pain store (QM Tec's) and got some line paint and painted 5 parking bays outside our hanger.
:0)

I then also painted the word "NO" next to the word PARKING where the ***** who gave us the extras worked :0)

Later on that morning his boss apologized on his behalf and gave him a few bottles of Port fine in the mess and told us not to bother with the rest of the punishment :0)
:lol:

It only takes a set of pliers to remove the parking signs ... :rolleyes:
If you don't like it, you can always bugger off to where you were originally. No-one forced you to move there, no-one forced you to park where it's not allowed.

As it is, you knew about the lack of parking when you moved to the house you're in, so you have to take the chance of getting ticketted if you break the parking laws. It's not extortion, it's life in London and if you want to live there yo have to play by the rules or pay the fines. Whatever you do, can you please cut the whinging, it gets tiresome after a while.

I hear the Scottish traffic wardens in Inverness are very easy going.

Give me a break Lozzo. **** off back to Malta if you don't like the way the British moan (it's really a tiresome attempt at an insult btw :rolleyes: )

Anyway, I love it down here. London has its downsides but you'd be a fool to live here and not appreciate what it is. My issue is that:

1. I live in Kent yet can't park anywhere for free. I don't live in a city that needs CPZs. I live in an area in which I need a car.
2. To challenge a ticket means sacrificing the 50% 'discount'. That's extortion (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/extortion) in anyones book.

[andrewsmith]

I and two of my colleges got 5 extra's ... the equivalent to 120 hours each of community service a few years ago for parking outside of where we worked... we were just picking our kit up after an exercise...

So whilst on our punishment I rang the pain store (QM Tec's) and got some line paint and painted 5 parking bays outside our hanger.
:0)

I then also painted the word "NO" next to the word PARKING where the ***** who gave us the extras worked :0)

Later on that morning his boss apologized on his behalf and gave him a few bottles of Port fine in the mess and told us not to bother with the rest of the punishment :0)

One way to get your own back richie

[Ed]

Richie, that was brilliant:D Inspired in fact:cool:

[jambo]

:lol:

2. To challenge a ticket means sacrificing the 50% 'discount'. That's extortion (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/extortion) in anyones book.
Actually if you challenge the ticket within 14 days the original price is put on hold while the complaint is settled.

Other than that, I've lived and worked here my entire life and racked up a sum total of 0 parking tickets.

You're doing it wrong.

If you can't park outside your house legally find somewhere you can park. If that means getting up and walking 5 minutes to your car every day then so be it. If the parking is inconvenient, then find a way to work with it, your current approach isn't working out so well.

Jambo

[Ed]

your current approach isn't working out so well.

Jambo

What he means is, avoid taking a dump between 1 and 3

[yorkie_chris]

Seems a bit alien to not be allowed to park outside your own house?

[jambo]

Seems a bit alien to not be allowed to park outside your own house?
Yorkshire and London have somewhat different layouts and population densities. Plenty of houses have no dedicated parking at all, and many streets would be unable to cope if everyone parked outside their house. I know many people in London who have never owned a car and I don't disagree with any of them. It's busy and crowded, and a git to park most places. A motorbike's a much better bet for me :)

Jambo

[Lozzo]

Seems a bit alien to not be allowed to park outside your own house?

That's how life is in London, but it's one of those "I want them to change to suit me" type things that blow-ins tend to want and moan about. Like I said, if you don't like it, don't move there ... which is why I live in an area where I can afford to rent a house with a 6 car drive and two garages. In my 20s I lived in both Harrow and Ealing, and hated every day there.

I spent the best part of 15 years sales repping in various company cars around that London and found somewhere free to park in most areas. If anything needs complaining about it's the Congestion Charge and the huge number of traffic offence cameras they have. I'd rather see them done away with and more proper coppers employed doing that job.

[yorkie_chris]

Like I said, if you don't like it, don't move there ...

I have no intention of doing!
To quote Mick Dundee "the place is crowded, I'd only make it worse" :)

[Ed]

If anything needs complaining about it's the Congestion Charge and the huge number of traffic offence cameras they have. I'd rather see them done away with and more proper coppers employed doing that job.

...just like they do in north Wales:D

[andrewsmith]

*Northerner Alert*

The only problem with London is Southerners
Facking cockneys

Hated everytime I've been there. If a try again it'll be on bike

[Lozzo]

...just like they do in north Wales:D

I said proper coppers

[laMon]

Dizzy, where in Kent are you exactly?
Other things to be aware off;
* coppers with radar guns in the bit of road where you just going to go faster,
* smart cars with cameras that wait for peeps to stop to drop off in bus stops,
* camera vans opposite the static ones so you get caught regardless of your knowledge
* CCTV at traffic lights, jump the red light- get done, Leave your ar$e in the box junction-get done
* CCTV where no right/left turns are

NO PARKING on pavements unless the area is designated, in the Greater London ie London Borough of Bexley (where I remember your GF lived) is included.
Bexley has a station and if you are close to the center you will have residence parking, as everyone wants to be near the station in the morning.

In my road (dead end), bays on the pavement, leave wheels out, a Muppet on the moped turns up and you get fined-no obstruction is being caused.

You'll be a bit wiser;) from now on won't you...

[gettin2dizzy]

Dizzy, where in Kent are you exactly?
Other things to be aware off;
* coppers with radar guns in the bit of road where you just going to go faster,
* smart cars with cameras that wait for peeps to stop to drop off in bus stops,
* camera vans opposite the static ones so you get caught regardless of your knowledge
* CCTV at traffic lights, jump the red light- get done, Leave your ar$e in the box junction-get done
* CCTV where no right/left turns are

NO PARKING on pavements unless the area is designated, in the Greater London ie London Borough of Bexley (where I remember your GF lived) is included.
Bexley has a station and if you are close to the center you will have residence parking, as everyone wants to be near the station in the morning.

In my road (dead end), bays on the pavement, leave wheels out, a Muppet on the moped turns up and you get fined-no obstruction is being caused.

You'll be a bit wiser;) from now on won't you...
I'm in Sidcup at the mo, and I know all about those CCTV smart cars! I'm pretty sure that's how I've been ticketed. These cars drive around all day collecting footage that a tea can go through afterwards. Needless to say Bexley council have had a huge revenue increase since outsourcing traffic policing.... and doubling all the fines.

And as for being wiser, certainly! :D After the first ticket came through I did enough research that I think I could park in any town for free now . I know most loopholes (invalid / insufficient signage, wrongly marked bays) :lol: Sadly I've just got a backlog of tickets that keep arriving in the post!

[gettin2dizzy]

These buggers:
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[andrewsmith]

aint that illegal as it isn't brightly coloured

and technically can't stop you like a police car

[gettin2dizzy]

aint that illegal as it isn't brightly coloured

and technically can't stop you like a police car

They haven't needed to be yellow since 2007. Even before then it was only 'speed camera partnerships' that it applied to .... and it was voluntary! :lol:

[andrewsmith]

i stand corrected
the guy must look like a p***k drving round in a camera'd up smart car

[yorkie_chris]

Like they care, worse scum than traffic wardens.

So what's the point of having a number plate then?

[gettin2dizzy]

So what's the point of having a number plate then?
Who says it even needs to be your own :rolleyes:

[Ed]

That's just diabolical.

Around here someone would set it on fire.

[andrewsmith]

nah this is soo much funnier

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[gettin2dizzy]

Do people outside of London have the parking ticket machines where you need to put your registration number in?

The cynic in me says it's just to stop people passing on tickets with time left over. I *hope* I'm wrong :rolleyes: