Virgin Broadband 50Mb anyone ?

[hindle8907]

I hate virgin, but me and the other half have moved into her parents house while we save a deposit to buy our own house.

I used to be with BE for my broadband ADSL 24Mb and was getting around 1.9 -2.2 MBps/down load speed and it was unlimited and was very happy with that.

her parents have got 7 months left on there virgin contract, but they are only on a 10Mb connection and you get throttled like Mad if you download more than 1GB in a day.
Its stupid as I normally download anything from 50GB to 300GB a week.

With the 50Mb connection its unlimited downloads (At the moment) so i have asked them to upgrade it to 50Mb.

So anyone else on the 50Mb Package and what do you think of it ?

[james160987]

i just went with 20mb in the end,

i used to be with tiscal max speed 4 meg, so if i over download with virgin now i get throttled to 5meg ( they throttle you 75%) same as i was befor, and if your downloading by Bittorrent you wont geet 50 meg through a torrent, but youll most likly see 1.0-1.5,

couldnt see a massive advantage of going to 50 meg to be fair over 20,

[hindle8907]

i done use bit torrent, Torrents are for armature downloaders ;)

i get what ever speed my connection can give.

EG: One Blu ray Movie is 5-25GB so if you download that then for the rest of the day/night your on 5Mb ...

thats not good enough for me lol i would be pulling my hair out.

[timwilky]

I am on the 50Mb package, it works as it should

I too hate virgin, but have no choice. I cannot get ADSL despite only being about 4 miles from the local exchange. BT have 3 times visited me and gone, oooohhh sorry and gone away.

There is no throttling on the 50Mb package, I never suffered when I was on the 20Mb. To be honest the real reason for upgrading was to get better upload, it is still pathetic at 1.5Mb.

I am also a tester for the Ofcom/SamsKnow performance measurement project and have one of their boxes installed off my router. I would hope virgin would know who is in the program and prioritise their traffic. But I guess that would be naughty.

[Kalessin]

i done use bit torrent, Torrents are for armature downloaders ;)

Usenet?

[timwilky]

With SSL encryption so Virgin cannot sniff content

[hindle8907]

Usenet?

yea

With SSL encryption so Virgin cannot sniff content

SSL WTF :)

[hindle8907]

What are the Dlink N routers like Tim ? Did you get one of these with yours ?

[timwilky]

No I got nothing, just a new Docsis 3 cable modem.

TBH I begrudged having to pay the man to turn out and swap the modem over, I don't know why it cannot be self install as in the past for swapouts.

Still it did not work properly and took a while to sync as it should. You get the usual VM crap of wanting to connect your PC direct to the modem to test. But as I have only bastion firewalls and not PC based I was somewhat reluctant. He was even more confused when the box that was eventually connected simply gave him a bash shell and no gui interface.

[hindle8907]

Yeah iv had to pay 55 quid for someone to come out on Saturday ?!?

I said why isnt it self install if its only a modem and she said they have to do something out side too but couldn't give me any more information on it.
Buggers.

[james160987]

i got the dlink router, its worked no worrys so far, only gripe i have is the key cant be changed it seems, its written on the bottem of the box and there is no menu for it to be changed,

youd be pulling your hair out on throttled connection? the throttled connection is more than you were getting full speed with be,

if you can afford the price, and your gonna use it then go for it, especially if the parents are paying the line charge side of it, (phone) and you just pay the net,

never used usenet , know idea where to get started with that,

[hindle8907]

youd be pulling your hair out on throttled connection? the throttled connection is more than you were getting full speed with be,
,

How do you work that out lol ?

I think your geting Bits and Bytes mixed up .

[beabert]

Just do what i do and download after 9pm to avoid the traffic management, yer pirate :D

He meant 10mb is throtlled to 2mb hence faster than your BE account.

[hindle8907]

yeah so when im throttled to 2Mb im only geting 200kBps/dl .... thats not faster than 1.9-2.2MB which i got 247 with BE isit.
its x10 slower lol.

[beabert]

Splitting hairs at 0.2mb difference, your one of thoughs £2 isn't £1.99 people aren't you lol.

I get 230kbs ish throttled.

[hindle8907]

BE was 24Mb and i got 1900 to 2200 kB/s < 247

Now Virgin 10Mb i get 1200 kB/s but after a 1.5 GB download get taken down to 2Mb which gives 200-250 kB/s.

so how can the throttled be faster than i was geting with BE lol .

its not a small difference its x10 slower.

[beabert]

Oh, now i know why your moaning lol. I read the first post and thought from you were getting a **** speed from BE lol.

Stop quoting in bytes and sick to bits :-p Im contemplating 50 myself.

[timwilky]

i got the dlink router, its worked no worrys so far, only gripe i have is the key cant be changed it seems, its written on the bottem of the box and there is no menu for it to be changed,

youd be pulling your hair out on throttled connection? the throttled connection is more than you were getting full speed with be,

if you can afford the price, and your gonna use it then go for it, especially if the parents are paying the line charge side of it, (phone) and you just pay the net,

never used usenet , know idea where to get started with that,

Line charge? What is that all about. I don't have a land line as such, don't want one, would never use one. Instead I have SIP phone with 4 accounts connected to it, gives me a Preston/Chorley/Manchester/Liverpool numbers which I use for business and never pay a penny on, simply answer the incomming call. The house phones and daughters phone are all on other SIP accounts. My average telephone bill is about £5/month. When I had a virgin phone it was £11/month rental and about £15/month call costs.

[beabert]

Who you using now?

Im using astraweb through bintube now, as bintube isnt open anymore unless you subscribe to them

[hindle8907]

yeah astraweb too.

[beabert]

Damn the exchange rate

[Viney]

I have the 20mb service. Yes Virgin have the worst customer service ever, but i download frequently, or stream, and to date never been throttled back.!

[hindle8907]

I have the 20mb service. Yes Virgin have the worst customer service ever, but i download frequently, or stream, and to date never been throttled back.!

lol you dont down download enough.

[hindle8907]

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[hindle8907]

On 20mb you can download 7 GB in the day before you get throttled and 3.5 GB in the evening before they throttle.
and the second you go over them thresholds they throttle.

for the avrage joe it is ok but i download 8GB files at a time.

[james160987]

with 20mb when you get throttled it goes down to 5mb,

i thoguht you said you were getting 1.9-2.2 meg connection thats where the confusion was as you said, go for 50 if thats the case

[hindle8907]

with 20mb when you get throttled it goes down to 5mb,

i thoguht you said you were getting 1.9-2.2 meg connection thats where the confusion was as you said, go for 50 if thats the case

yeah sorry it does read a little funny.

I have edited it ;)

[beabert]

I always hit the limit too. Just gather all you nzbs up during the day and set them to download overnight.

8gb files... i know exactly what your grabbing lol. You played red dead redemption yet, im finding it bloody boring.

[hindle8907]

nah not yet ran out of disks got 50 dual layers on the way though ;)

[beabert]

What discs do you use? Aone plus work well for me, not a single bad burn, and they are very cheap :-D.

[hindle8907]

Datawrite Yellow's/White Top Printables , beeing geting 100% with the yellows
Dont use datawrite reds as got 50/50 fail lol .

I haven't tried the Aone's yet so will give them ago next time.

[james160987]

anyone point me in the direction on how to start with usenet,

might give it ago, ( is it free or pay for)?

[hindle8907]

its around 10-20 pounds a month depending who you go with,
ill PM you some info but google is your friend,
Google how to get started with usenet

[beabert]

Blimey your paying too much lol, Astraweb (special deal) and bintube are both $11 (£8.65)

Virgin has free news severs but the rention is pathetic.

Google:

bintube/astraweb
grabit
winrar
quickpar

[hindle8907]

Blimey your paying too much lol, Astraweb (special deal) and bintube are both $11 (£8.65)

Virgin has free news severs but the rention is pathetic.

Google:

bintube/astraweb
grabit
winrar
quickpar

I pay $15 a month so around 10quid but some charge up to £20.
where is that deal on ? astraweb or bintube site?

[barwel1992]

you lot need to stop ure moaning and think ure selves lucky

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[timwilky]

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[hindle8907]

[QUOTE=barwel1992;2280083]you lot need to stop ure moaning and think ure selves lucky

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I couldn't live lol how do you play FPS games with that ?

whats wrong with your connection ?

[hindle8907]

http://www.speedtest.net/result/827879268.png

thats more like it ;) carny wait till tomorrow.

[barwel1992]

[QUOTE=barwel1992;2280083]you lot need to stop ure moaning and think ure selves lucky

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I couldn't live lol how do you play FPS games with that ?

whats wrong with your connection ?

BT and an overloaded exchange is the problem lol but talk talk have just take over the exchange so they are trying to sort it out

and even with that conection i can still get stupid good K/D ratio's on cod mw2 :p

[hindle8907]

meh.... i would pwn you ;)

[barwel1992]

ha you would try ....

[jamesterror]

Virgin Media have a crap upload speed, but I don't pay the bills so I don't moan.

We pay £37 a month for the 20MB package where the 50MB package is available for £38 on the Virgin website but my dad is too lazy to upgrade. The upload speeds with Virgin are rubbish which get on my nervs, if I had the money I'd get my own line installed with BT on Be as they're so much better.

[beabert]

I pay $15 a month so around 10quid but some charge up to £20.
where is that deal on ? astraweb or bintube site?

http://www.news.astraweb.com/specials/kleverig-11.html

but, sign up via bintube instead, same price with bintube as an extra.

[Shellywoozle]

Yeah iv had to pay 55 quid for someone to come out on Saturday ?!?


Funny they upgraded mine for free ages ago!! No fee ... you been done LOL

[beabert]

saw him coming lol

[Bluefish]

http://www.speedtest.net/result/828167795.png (http://www.speedtest.net)
done whilst downloading, then done after stopping d/load. http://www.speedtest.net/result/828169745.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

[hindle8907]

Funny they upgraded mine for free ages ago!! No fee ... you been done LOL

promotional probably,
Im not one to be had over lol but they have reduced the TV package so that's probably why they didn't do it for free, as really its not an upgrade as they are getting the same amount of money ./

[hindle8907]

can you get static IP's from Virgin ?

[timwilky]

can you get static IP's from Virgin ?

No, I even paid extra years ago for a second IP address off Telepest and that was revoked when virgin set their policies. for my stuff I have to use dynamic dns

Annoying, they will not permit proper IP addressing. My company own's a full class B and I could quite easily be allocated a subnet off it. But virgin would not propagate the route.

[hindle8907]

BE broad band offer up to 5 at 2 pounds per month each.
I was really pleased with their service

[madnlooney]

im with virgin 20mb too and use ngroups.net as my usenet provider which also allows SSL. Do most my downloading over night so dont hit the throttle.

[hindle8907]

http://www.speedtest.net/result/829716020.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

whoop whooppp wooo.

[Bluefish]

http://www.speedtest.net/result/829716020.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

whoop whooppp wooo.

:winner:

[gettin2dizzy]

Its stupid as I normally download anything from 50GB to 300GB a week.

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/dontdopeas84/NDVD_007.jpg

[MattCollins]

50Mbit? Wow! Whataya do with that!? The best I get is 1.5Mbit on ADSL that came to town 3 years ago and is all that is available. Before that it was 256k on two way satellite or just plain dial-up which never ran better than 32k. Sometimes I get 3Mbit on the mobile connection depending on the towers being used but often <64k - happy if I can get 128k out of it.