Ban the vuvuzelas? [Archive] - SV650.org - SV650 & Gladius 650 Forum

stuartyboy

13-06-10, 03:00 PM

Anyone else bothered by these trumpets constantly droning throughout world cup matches?

If so you can join the facebook group or sign the petition.

http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=129240890430851 (http://www.facebook.com/#%21/group.php?gid=129240890430851)

http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?2010WC

Lozzo

13-06-10, 03:05 PM

I heard a bit of the game last night on the radio (I popped into the garage where my housemate was working).
That would drive me to stabbing someone, the noise was horrific. How the hell do they expect anyone to play under those conditions?

EssexDave

13-06-10, 03:05 PM

Agreed.

stuartyboy

13-06-10, 03:18 PM

Spread the word guys and girls. They even have the sound off in the pub there's been that many complaints.

Surely the tv sound engineers can find a way of filtering this out. Or we can pray that someone throws one onto the pitch (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/world_cup_2010/8737455.stm).

anna

13-06-10, 03:59 PM

Perhaps muting the environmental sounds entirely. The matches are watched live and therefore they try to capture the sense of the stadium whilst there.

Or put a limiter on the db range of the environmental sounds and that could help...saying that it doesnt help when the volume of the TV you are watching at is high, such as the volume in pubs.

The vuvuzelas are given out free over here by the petrol stations so be grateful you dont have to endure that delight!

They wont be banned from use as they are a traditional instrument from South Africa and so banning them would cause a lot more harm then good.

Saying all of that..... "anything above the 100 decibel level is injurious to the health of the human inner ear for longer than a period of 15 minutes. Air-horns average 123.6dbs and a drum has an upper range of 122dbs. The referees’ whistle has an average of 121.8dbs. The vuvuzelas however weigh in at a hefty 127dbs!"

So yes vuvuzelas are infact very damaging to the hearing of anyone in close range for more then 15 mins.

Filipe M.

13-06-10, 06:42 PM

I think they don't do it entirely because of Anna said, they're trying to capture the ambient sound in the stadium, and unfortunately the flippin' things are a major part of it. To me it sounds like they're playing inside a hornets' nest or something, it's insane.

That said, a very steep notch filter at 250 Hz or thereabouts (I don't have the measuring equipment on me to check the precise frequency band), together with 3 more at x2, x3 and x4 the original frequency band should do the trick. Don't be surprised if the commentators sound a bit funny after that, though...

Mr Speirs

13-06-10, 06:54 PM

Yeah I don't think they are going to ban something because it is annoying.
Unfortunately no amount of filtering with eq is going to get rid of them, just make it sound different.

I have been watching a lot games and you just manage to tune it out after while. Unfortunately the pitch is so far away from the stands that there's no chance of getting one on the pitch. I didn't hear the England supporters band people yesterday either...although there weren't much to shout about were there? :)

Specialone

13-06-10, 07:02 PM

They are annoying but tbh they dont bother me that much, but wouldnt go to a game because cos live it would be horrendous im sure.

JamesMio

13-06-10, 07:29 PM

I've had to stick all the games on mute so far, I can't deal with that noise!

L3nny

13-06-10, 07:32 PM

It makes the game very eerie, normally there is ups and downs in the noise depending on what is going on on the pitch, in this world cup there is just a constant drone no matter what is going on.

You also can't hear any chanting or singing which ruins the atmosphere.

If anyone brings one to the Molineux next season I know where it'll get stuck.

Specialone

13-06-10, 07:36 PM

Just carry a can of expanding foam with you and give it squirt down his horn (sounds painful)
I will guarantee they will worm there way into british football :(

dizzyblonde

13-06-10, 07:39 PM

I don't like football, and I'm having to put up with that and that stupid drone for hours. I'd prefer to hear chanting and fans singing the songs, with ooos and aaaahs when they miss goals etc. But you can't hear any of that for fudging constant drone. I said last night I'm surprised it doesn't put off the players!

Bri w

13-06-10, 07:42 PM

Annoyed me during the opening game but tbh I've subconsciously tuned it out - doesn't bother me now

L3nny

13-06-10, 07:44 PM

France captain Patrice Evra has already said it was the Vuvuzela's fault they were so poor

punyXpress

13-06-10, 08:01 PM

What was that, specialone?
Couldn't hear.
. . ."Pull my finger and you will hear the vuvuzela"
There's an easy answer:The wretched things have a pointy end ( sound familiar? ) and a blunt end. Insert whichever is more appropriate and walk away slowly.

Specialone

13-06-10, 10:09 PM

carty

14-06-10, 09:35 AM

France captain Patrice Evra has already said it was the Vuvuzela's fault they were so poor

Number 687 in the 'big book of excuses' :-({|=.

The noise doesn't bother me, just wish the football was a bit better!

Davies

14-06-10, 09:44 AM

People will be complaining that the sun is too bright next and that they have to turn the brightness down on their tellies :roll:

simesb

14-06-10, 09:45 AM

Don't watch the football but this is getting a lot of press coverage.

Don't see why it should be banned; most people on here are the first to complain when "nanny state" authorities ban something. It is a rubbish excuse because it is the same for both teams. The fact that there are so many of them at the games shows that a high proportion of the crowd enjoy them. I'd ban football, but others disagree. C'est la vie.

metalangel

14-06-10, 04:58 PM

I wondered what the strange racket was, I arrived into work today and someone was watching the game (during a break, of course) and there was this buzzzzzzzz and I didn't realize that was what it was!

TazDaz

14-06-10, 04:59 PM

I wouldn't mind them so much if they were played in tune with one another to create an atmosphere, but they all just play them randomly which just equals noise basically! :(

Jdubya

14-06-10, 05:29 PM

Number 687 in the 'big book of excuses' :-({|=.

The noise doesn't bother me, just wish the football was a bit better!

+1
:(

dizzyblonde

14-06-10, 05:32 PM

I'm not sure which I'd prefer to hear, the drone, or the great escape a million times!
Or maybe just no football......ahhh much better!

Treacle

14-06-10, 05:55 PM

Burn them and everyone who uses them!!!!!!!!!!

Jdubya

14-06-10, 06:14 PM

The problem with banning them now is...it's too late! FIFA tried to ban them about a year ago after the confed cup but it was deemed to be "okay" for the world cup.

The thing is though that the vuvuzela is as much a part (and has been for many years) of football in South Africa and most of Southern Africa as singing and chanting is to European football. Taking the vuvu away now would cause more problems than it would solve. I suggest if you don't like it, then turn the volume down on the telly and listen to some music.

SuzukiNess

14-06-10, 06:50 PM

The thing is though that the vuvuzela is as much a part (and has been for many years) of football in South Africa and most of Southern Africa as singing and chanting is to European football. Taking the vuvu away now would cause more problems than it would solve.

and you'd have 50+ million safricans going absoluting bonkers... listening to the vuvuzela is the safer option :rolleyes:

fenjer

14-06-10, 07:36 PM

The thing is though that the vuvuzela is as much a part (and has been for many years) of football in South Africa and most of Southern Africa as singing and chanting is to European football. Taking the vuvu away now would cause more problems than it would solve.

Exactly, compared to the football hooligans we export all over the world I think everyone has got a cheek to complain about the vuvuzela.

Sid Squid

14-06-10, 09:19 PM

I find the noise annoying - but I can't see what can be done.

They're even more annoying than those bloody annoying air-horns people take to race meetings.

Triv650

14-06-10, 09:29 PM

Sounds like crap, doesn't add the positive atmosphere that chants or music does to a game, unlike other sounds it sounds worse the more there are and it's so loud that it negatively affects some players, managers and commentators. I cannot see any reason for keeping the Vuvuzela that trumps the ones mentioned in this thread. Although my reasons are subjective, there are objective reasons too. The vuvuzela produces enough noise to cause hearing damage to those up to 2 metres away from the "instrument".

Ban it Fifa, I beg you please :(

Having said that, it is part of South African football tradition and as they say, when in Rome do as the Romans do so maybe we should let it stay for this world cup at least and ban it from future ones in other countries.

punyXpress

14-06-10, 09:58 PM

Earplugs?

Lozzo

14-06-10, 10:17 PM

I find the noise annoying - but I can't see what can be done.

They're even more annoying than those bloody annoying air-horns people take to race meetings.

There's a solution to air horns, as my mate Alun showed me. You grab it from the tw4t who's holding it and break the thing's top off and stamp on it rendering it useless. When he complains you tell him he'll have the air canister shoved where the sun doesn't shine by you and everyone else around you. The tw4t usually finds other people to annoy, but minus an air horn.

Filipe M.

15-06-10, 12:30 PM

There's a solution to air horns, as my mate Alun showed me. You grab it from the tw4t who's holding it and break the thing's top off and stamp on it rendering it useless. When he complains you tell him he'll have the air canister shoved where the sun doesn't shine by you and everyone else around you. The tw4t usually finds other people to annoy, but minus an air horn.

Ahhhh nothing like a bit of gratuitous violence to make everyone feel warm and fuzzy...

That said, Portugal is playing in 1h30', so the Vuvuzelas are out on the streets... I'm not looking forward to my lunch hour.

timwilky

15-06-10, 01:26 PM

I hope the daily mail is right about the bbc (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/worldcup2010/article-1286728/WORLD-CUP-2010-BBC-set-kill-vuvuzelas.html?ITO=1490&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+dailymail%2Fsport+%28Sport+%7 C+Mail+Online%29)

northwind

15-06-10, 07:15 PM

I'm not sure which I'd prefer to hear, the drone, or the great escape a million times!

I was going to say that :cool: I prefer the vulvuzusuzuvucklas though.

Sid Squid

15-06-10, 10:37 PM

I was going to say that :cool: I prefer the vulvuzusuzuvucklas though.
The lesser spotted Andy! Where have you been? You never write, you never phone...

northwind

15-06-10, 10:47 PM

I've been back for a couple of weeks but only really in the Ecosse section... I didn't exactly leave, I just kind of stopped posting here without meaning to. Fallen out of love with motorbikes I guess, still got the bike and still riding but it just seems like hard work. But I think I'll be hanging around...

Sid Squid

15-06-10, 10:49 PM

Good to see you back whatever your level of participation :).

northwind

15-06-10, 10:50 PM

Whythangyou. Good to be back!

punyXpress

16-06-10, 10:43 AM

I was going to say that :cool: I prefer the vulvuzusuzuvucklas though.

Aren't those the ones you suck rather than blow? ;)

gerbrox

16-06-10, 11:13 AM

As we're living in a nanny state do you think that these http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:dzCW6oLoXcI_8M:http://www.clickpromogifts.co.uk/images/products/Misc/thum/Football-Rattles.gif (http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.clickpromogifts.co.uk/images/products/Misc/thum/Football-Rattles.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.clickpromogifts.co.uk/rattles-dept2.html&usg=__VhxFteXAQtD6UcfZgKn2ul8Ldlw=&h=88&w=150&sz=8&hl=en&start=23&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=dzCW6oLoXcI_8M:&tbnh=56&tbnw=96&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dfootball%2Brattles%26start%3D20%26um% 3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26rls%3DWZPA,WZPA:2009-02,WZPA:en%26ndsp%3D20%26tbs%3Disch:1) would be banned from all stadiums if 30,000 fans at each game were wirling these around, mind you you'd need popeye arms for that.

Apprently the vuvuzelas are part of South African culture.

There going to end up at all our games in the uk and will most certainly be banned IMO.

wyrdness

16-06-10, 11:34 AM

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Scooby Drew

16-06-10, 12:37 PM

I think we need to go over there and show those colonials how we do things here i.e. get ****ed and start a fight... ;)

As I hate having feetball rammed down my throat 24/7, 365 days a year, I am loving the fact that feetballers are hating the horns - viva la vuvu!!! :smt044

Daimo

16-06-10, 01:47 PM

Really don't see the fuss. Drums, flares etc far more annoying.

Its in Africa, stop being prudes and snobs and accept this is the way it is in THAT country. Stop crying over spilt milk.

Glad to see what issues people are concerned with in life. Oh my word, buzzy bee's in the stadium, oh wait its horns. Carry on....

hindle8907

16-06-10, 01:49 PM