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G
24-06-10, 03:25 PM
I have been reading the diary of a probationary police constable recently, some of the stuff is bloody hilarious, some of it sobering, and some of it is just reality... I thought it was worth posting this section as its so relevant and so true.

I've been there before...




Our Probationer Issues An FPN
20-Aug-09
PC Bill Newman muses over the impact a stopped motorist's attitude has on the course of action by an officer....

PC Bill Newman is fresh out of training school and shares his experiences of being new to the job with Police Oracle readers on a weekly basis....

I was sat parked up with my driver Alan, tucked down a long driveway which came off a main road.

The early morning shift was dragging slowly and the radio was unusually quiet. Hidden from the view of motorists, we sat to eat our lunch while watching for any drivers, unaware of our presence, to give us an excuse to stop them.

Seatbelts, using mobile phones and even speeding would be our green light to shoot after them and pull them over.

“We’re the petty police today really,” Alan said amusingly as he studied the wrapper of a chocolate bar he’d just consumed.

“Do you know how many E numbers this thing has,” he asked me in a tone that told me I was about to find out. “That’s unbelievable,” he added, still staring intently at the small writing.

I saw a car shoot past along the 30mph road travelling at least 50mph.
“That flew past us,” I said.

“All the food I’ve eaten has got weird stuff in it,” he continued, picking up the empty crisp packet on his lap.

“Al, did you see that car that flew past,” I tried again.

“Mono… monosodium glutamate,” he stumbled. “What the hell is that? Wheat Malto… maltodextrin? That sounds like a poison.”

A blue Micra with four young lads in drove slowly past, the occupants looking at nearby houses.

“Wonder what they’re up to,” I said more to myself than anyone else.
“There’s garlic powder in my peperami,” Alan said, sounded disgusted. “Why would they put that in there, that’s just wrong?”

As I looked up, I saw a young male speed past while holding a mobile phone up against his right ear.

“He was on the phone,” I said.

Alan’s head darted up so quickly I thought his neck my snap and within a split second the car keys were being turned in the ignition.

“That’s just taking the ****,” Alan snarled, spinning the car around and catching up to the offender. “I hate mobile phones.”

We shot after the car and pulled it over a short distance up the road.

“Do you have any idea why we’ve pulled you over,” I said to the young driver who was now standing beside me on the pavement.

“Mobile,” he said sheepishly.

“Correct. That’s three points for using your mobile. It’ll push your insurance up and cost you more money,” I warned. “That’s a good result though for you,” I added. He looked at me confused.

“The bad result happens when you’re talking on your phone and don’t see something and end up killing someone and then go to prison. And I guarantee you won’t kill yourself, it’ll be an innocent person. The fact you didn’t see us behind shows you weren’t aware of what was going on around you.”

“Sorry”, he mumbled apologetically.

“On this occasion, take it as words of advice, but you were very close to getting a ticket there,” I said sternly.

He got back into his car and drove off slowly, probably thankful we had let him off. I’d never had an intention to stick him on for the offence; he’d been honest, was polite and I didn’t feel like ruining his day.

Moments later we were behind another car whose driver was idly chatting away on his phone.

“Give him a tug, he’s got no idea we’re here,” I said somewhat annoyed.
Standing next to the offender on the pavement, I began my usual routine.
“Why do you think we’ve pulled you over?”

He looked at me blankly, and shook his head.

“You’ve no idea whatsoever why we might have pulled you over?” I asked in disbelief. He was talking himself into a ticket nicely. “Just be honest with me.”
He again shook his head, so I helped him out.

“Mobile phone perhaps?” I said.

“Nope,” he said defiantly.

“There’s no point in lying mate, we followed you for about a quarter of a mile and you were completely unaware we were behind you.”

“I wasn’t on the phone, check it,” he said pointing at his car. Alan leant into his vehicle and retrieved the phone and brought it over.

“It says you last received a call five minutes ago,” Alan said cheerfully.
“I wasn’t on the phone,” he said once more.

A genuine apology and politeness and he’d have driven off with no more than a ticking off, providing our routine checks had all been okay. Instead, he’d talked himself into three points and a fine.

“Have a seat in the back of our car,” I said mischievously. “We’ll sort it out in there.”

Once I had filled out the ticket, our man was still defending himself.
“You can either pay the fine and accept the points,” I said. “Or challenge it and take it to court, and we’ll all have a nice day out, it really doesn’t bother me,” I said.

“I’ll see you in court then mate,” he said before walking off.

He knew we’d caught him in the act, we knew we’d caught him in the act, but for some reason he’d insisted to play the silly game that ended up in him getting points. On the whole I dislike giving tickets out to motorists because the majority of them are decent people who’ve never committed a crime. I would suggest that every driver has at once stage committed traffic offences, and I am fully aware of that. But getting caught and then deciding to lie to the police is a silly way in getting an easy ticket.

“What an idiot,” I said. “If he hadn’t have lied I wouldn’t have bothered giving him a ticket.”

I looked up to see Alan studying the back of my sandwich packet with a deep frown.

“Disgusting,” he muttered.

Jayneflakes
24-06-10, 03:32 PM
Cool, thank you G. That was an interesting read.

I have not been pulled for anything and do not plan to do so, but it is still good advice.

Loved the idea of him reading the food ingredients and being disgusted. :D

G
24-06-10, 03:37 PM
It's a bit of a read but it's worth it... the whole dairy is brilliant.

Scoobs
24-06-10, 03:43 PM
the whole dairy is brilliant.

Go on then. Post it. That extract was 'musin.

Nobbylad
24-06-10, 03:44 PM
So, the moral off the story is that, unless it's a criminal act which the particular officer at the time takes offence at (i.e. using mobile phones), you're likely to get away with it while they waste police time reviewing ingredients of junk food?

:rolleyes:

PsychoCannon
24-06-10, 03:57 PM
Sounds like a good read.
I bought "Wasting police time" after reading the guys blog for like...forever, good book.

I agree attitude makes a huge difference.
Once got pulled over for ...making progress on the M1.
They pretty much had the ticket written out but I simply put my head down, was polite, felt like crap, yes sir sorry sir no sir, all genuine of course, picturing me loosing my licence, my job, my flat, and he simply folded the ticket up, put it in his pocket and drove off.**

Suffice to say I was a very VERY good boy after that*

*for a while
** if I ever find out who he is I may just kiss him!...or buy him a pint, whatever =p

G
24-06-10, 03:58 PM
So, the moral off the story is that, unless it's a criminal act which the particular officer at the time takes offence at (i.e. using mobile phones), you're likely to get away with it while they waste police time reviewing ingredients of junk food?

:rolleyes:

To be fair the first car they can not prove was speeding so what would the point be, the second car is just 4 lads in a car which does give them the right to stop and search.

Please keep it on topic though and not a police bashing thread like all the other turn into, it's just an amusing story.

As for wasting police time...

'It Sounded Like A Interesting Call'

PC Bill Newman talks about the reasons why he joined the job and a incident with a 'machete-wielding maniac '......

One of the reasons I joined the job was to help genuine innocent victims of crime and to make sure that justice was served on the crooks that make people’s lives a misery.

A large percentage of the time though is wasted by people who misuse the police to score cheap points or to get something done.

The other day a call came out that the informant’s neighbour was in the street armed with a machete. It sounded like an interesting call and we took it. As we raced along busy streets my mind thought to what would greet us when we arrived on scene. Either it would be a machete-wielding maniac that could need CS spray or use of batons to comply with our instructions, or it would be all quiet on our arrival.

In typical fashion, it was the latter so decided to approach the door of the house where the neighbour with the alleged machete lived. Holding my baton covertly in my hand, I was surprised to see an elderly woman answer the door.

“I’m just unlocking the door,” she shouted through the glass pane as I heard the noise of a key clicking into the lock.

I took a step back from the door in the unlikely event that she would suddenly spring out armed with some sort of weaponry and was almost disappointed when I realised she wouldn’t. She looked confused to see us and I explained why we had been called.

“My neighbour came to my door threatening me,” she said. “But I never unlocked it and I most certainly was not waving a machete about,” she added almost indignantly.

I began making my way next door when the door flung open and a young man, about 22 years old age appeared looking quite excited.

“I called you,” he said as he pointed at the elderly female my colleague was talking to. “She’s crazy, let me show you what she’s done.”

He began walking down the side of his house into his back garden and I followed somewhat confused.

“What I need to do is find out why you’ve called us,” I started to say.

“Yes, I’m showing you,” he snapped.

He took me into the back garden where I could see there was no fence between their adjoining gardens.

“I put up a line of string across the length of our garden to mark out where a new fence would go and look it at,” he pointed, almost disbelievingly.

I looked across and saw a limp bit of string attached to one stick. I looked back at the man confused.

“Sorry, what seems to be the problem?” I asked politely.

“She’s cut my piece of string,” he said glaring at me. “Can’t you see? That’s criminal damage, I want her arrested and charged please, it cost me £7 to buy that ball of string.”

I nearly laughed out loud from frustration. Whenever a police officer responds to an emergency call, there are always risks involved. Driving through the streets with blue lights and sirens can be somewhat dangerous, to us and to other members of the public. I accept that everything is done to minimise the risks, but there is still a risk and sadly sometimes people do get hurt when mistakes are made. I don’t mind risking my safety to help a genuine victim in an emergency. But what I cannot stand is timewasters who risk lives by abusing the 999 system.
“You called 999 because she’s cut your string,” I said slowly.

“Not just that,” he said annoying. I was beginning to dislike him more by the second. “She’s cut it three times now. I want her arrested.”

“She’s an 80-year-old woman,” I said.

“And?” he said, his tone of voice getting higher in pitch as he became more agitated.

“You said she had a knife…”

“It was a machete.”

“Ok machete. But she didn’t open her front door, she hasn’t committed any offences.”

“I see,” he said angrily. “You’re not going to do anything. Well thank you very much for your help,” he said sarcastically.

“What I advise you do is don’t put any more string up if it’s winding her up and let the council do it when they plan where the boundaries are.”

“Fine, I’ll take your shoulder numbers and report you.”

I left the property feeling confused and frustrated. Technically I could have arrested her. But there was no way I was going to arrest an 80-year-old woman for a bit of string. It most certainly was not in the public interest and I like to think I applied common sense. Whether or not I now get a complain out of it remains to be seen, but I await it with humorous anticipation.

PsychoCannon
24-06-10, 04:06 PM
Yup that's the one.
And I thought the people I had to deal with some dumb people in my line of work, it's nothing compared to what the plod get sometimes (or the Ambo's/Firefighters for that matter)

Of course you get unluck sometimes and the idiot is on the wrong side of the desk/uniform but that's life.

*edit - is this diary public if so can we get a linky :)

Milky Bar Kid
24-06-10, 04:26 PM
Oh man, how familiar do all those sound to me!!

Shellywoozle
24-06-10, 04:31 PM
Have you read 'Wasting Police Time' - awesome read .... guy worked for my force and subsequently left after the book paid off his mortgage LOL

PsychoCannon
24-06-10, 04:51 PM
WOW! it must have sold better than I thought, iirc even at release it was dirt cheap, like £2 or something!

Nobbylad
24-06-10, 05:14 PM
To be fair the first car they can not prove was speeding so what would the point be, the second car is just 4 lads in a car which does give them the right to stop and search.

Please keep it on topic though and not a police bashing thread like all the other turn into, it's just an amusing story.

To be fair, I was being deliberately provocative, hence the :rolleyes: smiley ;)

rob13
24-06-10, 09:03 PM
I'm sure we could all write a book on wasting police time, unfortunately. The Police are used as a device for a lot of stuff, nasty messages being sent via facebook, "threats" via text etc.

metalangel
25-06-10, 05:32 AM
I think (in the first instance) it's the embarassment of getting caught, and they choose to deal with it by getting angry. THEY KNOW they've done it, and that's their response to it. Whereas the first guy is embarassed and just stays that way.

timwilky
25-06-10, 06:34 AM
Police, you is all a waste of time.

You ride about all day letting criminals do what they like, safe in the knowledge that if caught you will have a chat with them about their anti social behaviour.


Why do you not give the little scroats a good kicking any more. My local copper was quite good at beating up kids and it never harmed me.

And as for the big scroats. FFS you have armed response units, is it not their job to weed the defective genes out the pool.

No wonder crime is rife, why is so wrong for the plod to employ sadistist b'stards and homicidal maniacs and you have to be such PC PCs. Are you not allowed to enjoy your work any more?

Kalessin
25-06-10, 08:16 AM
Have you read 'Wasting Police Time' - awesome read .... guy worked for my force and subsequently left after the book paid off his mortgage LOL

I read it. I found it moany and whingey, so much so that I don't even care if they're real words. I bet your force were glad to see the back of the whining author.

Not that it didn't serve a purpose, drawing attention to the bureaucracy and paperwork that hampers day-to-day policing, but a much better read is Perverting the Course of Justice (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Perverting-Course-Justice-Hilarious-Shocking/dp/1906308047/) by "Inspector Gadget (http://inspectorgadget.wordpress.com/)".