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pwk
25-07-10, 05:22 PM
Looks like I might be changing jobs meaning lots of miles in the cage. Just wondering if anyone has any ideas on which cars return the best mpg. Current one does about 25 hence the need to change. It's got to be fairly sensible I.e. not a tiny city car as that would not be a very pleasant place to spend hours on the motorway with its tiny engine screaming. The bike is not an option due to luggage restrictions. Was hoping for 60 mpg plus....

malks
25-07-10, 05:27 PM
what u driving at the moment? and what's the budget for the new wheels?

most modern diesel's return pretty good mpg, I was getting 50ish from a golf gt tdi and was very impressed! I was driving it pretty hard as it was just a courtesy car and my commute was along country roads. but motorways and stuff were all good, pretty comfy car and still performed well!

husky03
25-07-10, 05:54 PM
pug 106 diesel- run it on veg oil / diesel mix crazy miles/gallon- one on ebay 53000 mile £895

Sean_C
25-07-10, 06:26 PM
My 206 2.0 turbo diesel is pretty good, just had 48.6mpg over a full tank of enthusiastic driving, the best I've managed is 53mpg. They're cheap to buy and insure, not too small I don't think.

The Basket
25-07-10, 06:51 PM
I had a 1.2 Hyundai I10 for a few days.

Its turn of speed on the dual carriageway was perfectly acceptable.

But as the car was so small...it felt you were sitting on the engine.

The engine was noisy and buzzy and for 20 mins journey time drove me up the wall. Uncomfortable. Glad to get shot.

If you do motorway miles for hours on end...you will have to buy a quiet car.

I am getting a Citroen C1 as a coutesy car soon...earplugs at ready!

Specialone
25-07-10, 06:55 PM
I get 50mpg from my golf tdi 110hp and thats not on long journeys, i also have a lead right foot.

rotax81
25-07-10, 07:05 PM
i have an audi A4 1.9TDi. have had it over 7 years now and constantly returns over 46 mpg (with a best recordrd 58 )and embarrases quite a few 2.0 petrol cars :tongue:

fizzwheel
25-07-10, 07:07 PM
Depends on your budget. Chap I used to work with had a Citeron C3 with a small 1.4 diesel engine in it, was regularly returning 70mph on the motorway.

If you are going new something like a Polo Blue motion or a maybe a Golf Blue Motion. Should get over 60mph with those and the tax IIRC is band A so cheap as chips.

The Basket
25-07-10, 08:41 PM
The C3 as a budget car fits nicely as they are cheap to insure and cheap to service and fix.

remember diesels always have a markup on them so a good petrol engine...can still get good mpg without the paying extra.

If you really bang the miles out then buying a new car is out the question as depreciation will be a killer...and servicing will be much higher.

I am in a similair position and will check out Corsas and Fiesta as well as my good old Citroen brothers....Looking at a 1.4 petrol or a similair diesel.

If you start getting bigger then you start spending proper cash.

tigersaw
25-07-10, 08:56 PM
I have Yaris 1.4 diesel. It does 60 mpg everywhere, comfy enough and swifter that most of the other runabouts.

Specialone
25-07-10, 09:04 PM
BTW my tax on my golf this year was £110, i think it was £115 last year.
Cheap as chips

tigersaw
25-07-10, 09:17 PM
BTW my tax on my golf this year was £110, i think it was £115 last year.
Cheap as chips

Yaris diesel is £30 or £35 cant remember

embee
25-07-10, 09:47 PM
Yaris diesel is £30 or £35 cant remember

09 onwards Yaris diesel is 6 speed and band B (109gm/km) so £20/yr, that should equate to real world 60mpg+.
Previous to that I think it was 5 speed/119gm and band C, but that's still only £30 now. If economy is right at the top of your list it's got to be worth a try.
First equal in category and 7th overall in this year's J.D.Power survey (http://www.whatcar.com/car-news/jd-power-survey-2010/superminis--the-top-10/250115).

thefallenangel
25-07-10, 09:57 PM
depends on what you want. my dad's 105bhp 1.5 diesel Megane which he sees about 56mpg driving 70mph, £42 a tyre and £105 tax a year but the 85bhp models are £20 to tax.


I have a C1 petrol which is 50mpg on motorways and 44 mpg round town. £20 tax and group 1 insurance.

Specialone
25-07-10, 11:02 PM
No offence but you cant compare a match box yaris to a family hatchback golf.
They are cheap to run granted, but the vw lupo, or polo are probably more comparable.
I couldnt drive something so small, rather not have a car tbh.

keithd
26-07-10, 07:37 AM
just sold my 05 plate audi a3 sportback sport 2.0 dirty diesel and its lifetime average (91,000 miles) was 50.5. Regular trips to and from work on a and b roads returned 55mpg. quick car too when you needed it, loads of oomph

kaivalagi
26-07-10, 07:44 AM
My wife has a Renault Megane 1.9 diesel, plenty of punch and the mpg for her town driving (she likes 3rd gear, i.e. doesn't drive in higher gear/lower revs) is between 35-40mpg...I dare say if we did lots of long drives in it the mpg would be more like 50-60. It's a lovely car IMO.

The Basket
26-07-10, 07:57 AM
Not sure the phrase Audi and budget motoring go together.

Odd to call cars like the Yaris a shopping trolley.

I view a car like a washing machine...a machine of necessary evil...the cheaper the better...just as long as it fulfills its function.

alexh
26-07-10, 08:07 AM
I view a car like a washing machine...a machine of necessary evil...the cheaper the better...just as long as it fulfills its function.

+1!

Dont laugh, but have you thought of a Fiat Stilo?

I picked up a 54 plate turbo diesel 3 door model (the 5 door ones look terrible IMO) 67K on the clock for £2000.

It does 60mpg when I go to Uni in London (cruising at 80mph) and 47mpg around town.

There comfortable, have an arm rest and most importantly have a cup holder!!!

pwk
26-07-10, 03:11 PM
cheers for the feedback guys....I currently drive a 3 series and so would be looking for something comparable to that really in terms of comfort and space. The diesel version of the same car is the obvious choice but fancy a change.

Biker Biggles
26-07-10, 03:36 PM
Not sure the phrase Audi and budget motoring go together.

Odd to call cars like the Yaris a shopping trolley.

I view a car like a washing machine...a machine of necessary evil...the cheaper the better...just as long as it fulfills its function.

Same here.Its an age thing.You grow out of the flash car phase eventually.Slightly different with bikes though :)

independentphoto
26-07-10, 03:38 PM
cheers for the feedback guys....I currently drive a 3 series and so would be looking for something comparable to that really in terms of comfort and space. The diesel version of the same car is the obvious choice but fancy a change.

In which case, I'd chip in with the Diesel Golf recommendations 50+ all the time and you can get warmer ones too (130, 150 BHP) and can have them remapped to deliver more if so desired. The A3 and Leon are basically the same car too. Just check tax & tyres etc. Good size boot too, and comfy inside.

Garry
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MR UKI (1)
26-07-10, 05:02 PM
Depends on your budget. Chap I used to work with had a Citeron C3 with a small 1.4 diesel engine in it, was regularly returning 70mph on the motorway.

If you are going new something like a Polo Blue motion or a maybe a Golf Blue Motion. Should get over 60mph with those and the tax IIRC is band A so cheap as chips.

Polo Bluemotion is Band A so tax free, same as the Seat Ibiza Econetic. Bluemotion 2 has aircon so is £35 per year. Golf Bluemotion is Band B so £35 per year. One of the diesel versions of the new Fiesta is also Band B.

arenalife
26-07-10, 07:22 PM
The Citroen C3 diesels are probably the best car around if you want economical motoring, tiny tax and insurance and nearly 70mpg at 65mph, my colleague runs one to work 80 miles a day year in year out. He's at 160,000 miles now and maintenance is also minimal. It's big enough to be practical and small enough to be easy to own. It's fine at motorway speeds and is actually very nippy. I remember him researching it carefully before buying and it was the UK's most economical 'normal' car, after the 107/C1/Aygo triplets (which I had, excellent little cars too).

The Basket
26-07-10, 09:36 PM
The Citroen C3 diesels are probably the best car around if you want economical motoring, tiny tax and insurance and nearly 70mpg at 65mph, my colleague runs one to work 80 miles a day year in year out. He's at 160,000 miles now and maintenance is also minimal. It's big enough to be practical and small enough to be easy to own. It's fine at motorway speeds and is actually very nippy. I remember him researching it carefully before buying and it was the UK's most economical 'normal' car, after the 107/C1/Aygo triplets (which I had, excellent little cars too).

Thats exactly what my research is saying as well.:thumleft::thumleft:

Sid Squid
26-07-10, 09:55 PM
Don't buy a T25 2.0l aircool VW.

nik_nunez
26-07-10, 09:59 PM
go for something like a alpha GT 1.9Diesel, will get good mpg and it looks amazing, plus there are loads about so can get a good deal

i currently drive a civic 2.2Diesel and it gets 45ish mpg but i do drive it around quite fast, its a very good car and had no problems with it at all, goes quite quick when you need to aswell

Jackie_Black
26-07-10, 11:17 PM
spend a grand or so converting your 3 series to run on gas. Sorted. No diesel stink, same car and performance and half the price on fuel. Pay for itself in about a year.

Sir Trev
27-07-10, 11:47 AM
spend a grand or so converting your 3 series to run on gas. Sorted. No diesel stink, same car and performance and half the price on fuel. Pay for itself in about a year.

As the owner of a converted Mundaneo I will never buy one again!

Yes you save on fuel but you have to plan fuel stops more carefully and the car is more fragile. Mine needs re-mapping every year to make it run right and the ECU keeps getting confused, switching on the engine management light. If it's not converted perfectly (check out the LPG forums for hundreds of horror stories) it will require expensive sergery to repair, often only available from a greasy backstreet place you never really trust...

There is a good reason why most manufacturers have dropped alternative fuels - modern diseasals are better.

If you want another option though look at a 1.4 or 1.6 petrol turbo. None of the irritation of the narrow power band and constant gear changes of a diseasal, reasonable mpg/CO2... That's where I'm looking for my next car. Diseasal fumes make my wife sick too.

Paul the 6th
27-07-10, 12:01 PM
i have an audi A4 1.9TDi. have had it over 7 years now and constantly returns over 46 mpg (with a best recordrd 58 )and embarrases quite a few 2.0 petrol cars :tongue:

same here a3 2.0 tdi - 500-550 miles on a 55 litre tank of diesel = around 47-50mpg depending on how hard it's driven