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iprideaux
06-08-10, 01:33 PM
My bike started making a horrible noise. According to the garage, both cam chains, guides & tensioners need replacing. They quoted me £2500, which (according to Parkers) will leave me with a bike worth ~ £1200.
:smt022
Should a bike really be thrown away after 10 years/35,000 miles?

Nicky S
06-08-10, 01:55 PM
£2500 are you joking ??

id shop around mate

my bike is 8 years old with 25000 miles and its not anywear near being thrown away

independentphoto
06-08-10, 02:08 PM
Two years and 10k left eh Nicky?

:smt046

Sounds mental for that. You could pick up a replacement engine and swap it yourself for far less - even including replacing the parts in your old one.

I'd be telling them to poke it.

Garry
:crutches:

Nicky S
06-08-10, 02:15 PM
Two years and 10k left eh Nicky?

:smt046

Sounds mental for that. You could pick up a replacement engine and swap it yourself for far less - even including replacing the parts in your old one.

I'd be telling them to poke it.

Garry
:crutches:

lol shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

yer have a look around but it will be a lot cheaper to get a 2nd hand engine as independentphoto said

Mr Speirs
06-08-10, 02:23 PM
£2500!!! For that? Are they on crack? No way!!! Go elsewhere I'm sure it'll be much much cheaper.

Even a replacement secondhand engine you'd expect to pay around £300+fitting.
A couple of chain and tensioners should even be near that price.

independentphoto
06-08-10, 02:23 PM
It's quite possible that for lots of tea & biscuits etc plus the cost of the parts, that some kind sould will help you do the work yourself for far less and forget the engine swap.

Like buses, true experts come all at once and I reckon that there's one due around 4.30.

Garry

dizzyblonde
06-08-10, 02:25 PM
EHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH ??????a new engine would cost you far less. Ball park figure of 400 or so on evilbay.


Besides, cam chains guides and tensioners cost less than an engine!
WHat exactly did they say that the problem was?

As IP says, a mate and a lot of tea n biccies and its less expensive. I know as I've done an engine swap.

Bedhead
06-08-10, 02:26 PM
I'd report them to trading standards if they quoted me that.:rant::rant:

dizzyblonde
06-08-10, 02:27 PM
I'd report them to trading standards if they quoted me that.:rant::rant:


LOL.

Put it this way, my Raptor only cost 200 quid more than that! I'd expect a gold plated top yoke, and gold leaf encrusted engine for that sort of money;)

Bedhead
06-08-10, 02:30 PM
For that money, I bought my SV, my Mondeo and my 306!

How much are the parts? £300?

over 2k in labour? That's well worth a call to MCN or similar!

Name and shame the dealer!

hardhat_harry
06-08-10, 02:39 PM
A upgraded cam chain tensioner is 60 quid.
An aftermarket cam chain is 70 quid from hi-level.
Dont know how much the guides are but they cant be more than 100 quid each

Also its rare for the rear cam chain tensioner to go its usually the front.

Cant see how both tensioners, chains and guides all go at once.

Rai86
06-08-10, 02:40 PM
£2500!!

Mate bring it to me....its not that dramatic to do! just a little time consuming....but not 2500 worth !!

dizzyblonde
06-08-10, 02:46 PM
....and what they don't say is, that they'll put it in first gear, rock yer bike backwards and forwards, so it un sticks itself, and say you have all new parts! And they did feck allllllll

iprideaux
06-08-10, 03:04 PM
I suspect that he's quoted a high price because, for some reason, he doesn't want the job. He seems to think that he'll need to take the engine out and split the crank cases.

The rear cylinder _is_ rattling, but not nearly as badly as the front was.

I'll ask the local dealers to price it up.

Bibio
06-08-10, 04:13 PM
....and what they don't say is, that they'll put it in first gear, rock yer bike backwards and forwards, so it un sticks itself, and say you have all new parts! And they did feck allllllll

start with what dizzy says. yup the pregnant one is a woman and blonde but dizzy is bright and knows more than she lets on :smt110

Nicky S
06-08-10, 04:28 PM
I suspect that he's quoted a high price because, for some reason, he doesn't want the job. He seems to think that he'll need to take the engine out and split the crank cases.

The rear cylinder _is_ rattling, but not nearly as badly as the front was.

I'll ask the local dealers to price it up.

mabey or he just dont know what he is doing

jacksuzukisv650
06-08-10, 05:32 PM
nar he probly just qoated u outa the door because he is not eczacly 100% what is the noise oh dear

dizzyblonde
06-08-10, 08:01 PM
start with what dizzy says. yup the pregnant one is a woman and blonde but dizzy is bright and knows more than she lets on :smt110

:smt003 only on odd occasions mind.

SV650Racer
09-08-10, 10:10 AM
A full engine removal, complete strip, rebuild and then back in the bike is generally 16 hours BUT you dont need to do that to change the tensioners and guides.

There is no law against people quoting too much as its upto you whether you have it done. I would say though to take it to someone who knows the SV650 a little better than the guy you have taken it to.

barwel1992
09-08-10, 11:08 AM
my k3 cost £1000 less than what they are quoting :o