Can't quite get your knee down??

[_Stretchie_]

Me either...

These might help :D

http://www.knee-sliders.co.uk/double-sliders/double-sliders/prod_139.html




Oh my life :rolleyes:

[Mr Speirs]

Awesome!!! That will solve my knee down problem haha

Useful in the wet on a track though I guess.

But imagine having to explain them on a nice hot summers day at your local bike meet. :)

[kellyjo]

Do they do them in 8's, thats my only hope of getting my knee down!!:p

[gruntygiggles]

Oooh, me!

[Jayneflakes]

Serious question time.

Why do you want to drag your knee across the road? What purpose does it serve?

[Mr Speirs]

It looks cool.

[Holdup]

Serious question time.

Why do you want to drag your knee across the road? What purpose does it serve?

Road not much point, track mucho point

Cant remember exact reason but you want to get half your backside off the seat knee out and your body in some kind of position, the more body weight you use to corner the more the bike sits upright and the more contact patch the tyres have with the road / track allowing you to go round the corner faster / more safely with less chance of falling off knee down really just helps you keep the bike up*

*i have probably just given the worst possible or completely wrong explanation although i hope it helps a a little

[yorkie_chris]

Serious question time.

Why do you want to drag your knee across the road? What purpose does it serve?

Childish amusement mostly :mrgreen:
But it does stabilise the bike a hell of a lot and tells you how far you are leant over(ground clearance), and some people can catch a front wheel slide on their knee. Very useful for track.

Hanging off is different, separate to knee down.
If you are off the side of the bike (just your head, shoulders, or head shoulders and ar*e too) then you are increasing your effective lean angle while decreasing the bikes lean angle. Means more ground clearance (peg digging in will have you off!) and less stress to tyres (tyres letting go also = crash)
see here
http://forums.sv650.org/showpost.php?p=2340553&postcount=55

[_Stretchie_]

Bragging rights only, don't think it makes you any faster or anything, just would be nice to be able to do it when you want


Me = Tart

[gruntygiggles]

Oooops x

[_Stretchie_]

???

[gruntygiggles]

I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.

[metalangel]

She linked to Bike Chat and Issues, tsk tsk.

Besides, real men elbow down:
http://www.tshirtspecialty.com/images/Philip-T6-600x900.jpg

(Oh well)

[_Stretchie_]

She linked to Bike Chat and Issues, tsk tsk.



Ha haa, I know, I followed the link and got confusilated...


Bananaman proved how much a set of GURLZ we were with our riding so he did a bit of 'fairing down' on a ride with Pete and Lissa to prove a point

; )

[cuffy]

From your link Dan i thought he had some of >>THESE<< (http://www.partystoreuk.co.uk/partystore/prod_679889-St-George-England-Plastic-Bowler-Hat.html) attached to his knees ;)

[Berlin]

I'm seriously considering going back to making my own! They're costing me a bloomin' fortune! Ive been through 8 pairs this year alone with the racing and I'm now on Wiz racing extra thickness, extra hard sliders and I went through half of them in one weekend last week!

I used to make them out of coffee jar lids filled with Plastic padding before you could buy them in the shops :) At a fiver for enough Isopon P38 to make a set Its looking like I'll be doing it again! :)

C

[gruntygiggles]

I'm seriously considering going back to making my own! They're costing me a bloomin' fortune! Ive been through 8 pairs this year alone with the racing and I'm now on Wiz racing extra thickness, extra hard sliders and I went through half of them in one weekend last week!

I used to make them out of coffee jar lids filled with Plastic padding before you could buy them in the shops :) At a fiver for enough Isopon P38 to make a set Its looking like I'll be doing it again! :)

C


Yeah, I feel your pain mate...



























NOT! haha!

[yorkie_chris]

I'm seriously considering going back to making my own! They're costing me a bloomin' fortune! Ive been through 8 pairs this year alone with the racing and I'm now on Wiz racing extra thickness, extra hard sliders and I went through half of them in one weekend last week!

I used to make them out of coffee jar lids filled with Plastic padding before you could buy them in the shops :) At a fiver for enough Isopon P38 to make a set Its looking like I'll be doing it again! :)

C

do what the old AMA ones used to do and use 20 layers of gaffer tape!

[Lozzo]

Bragging rights only, don't think it makes you any faster or anything, just would be nice to be able to do it when you want


Me = Tart

All depends on how hard you ride.

For those who do push the limits hanging off/knee down can make the difference between getting through a corner or visting the scenery. Having said that, I hardly ever bother trying to knee down on the road but I do shift body weight and adjust my position quite a bit - that really does help me to corner faster, especially when riding a high-rise block of flats like the Versys. I'm a believer in people trying new techniques and adopting whatever suits their own particular riding style, so if someone half as fast as me feels more confident hanging right off or with his/her knee down through a slower corner then I'm ok with that. Whatever makes them comfortable is the right way to do it.

As others have said, it keeps the bike on the fatter part of the tyres' contact patches, which in turn lessens the liklihood of the tyres letting go and throwing you into a ditch.

On track I wouldn't be anywhere near as quick as I am if I didn't do the hanging off/knee down thing because it does help you to gauge the angle of lean, lowers the centre of gravity etc and I feel having a knee braced against the tarmac helps to stabilise the bike mid-corner as well. If I stayed sat in the seat and in line with the centre of the bike then tried to ride as fast as I normally do on track, I'd be spending alot of my time visiting medical centres and hospitals.

Horses for courses

[Bibio]

tiz pretty hard to get your knee down when your my hight. on the odd occasion where my knee has touched down the bike is at such a fekin angle that its about to let go. so i supose those sliders would be of benefit. rofl

[kwak zzr]

my cousin was filming me doing KD on the lichfield bypass a few weeks ago but only because i had TI sliders on and it was amusing lol

[cdtrim]

Colin Edwards knee and elbow save, then waves to the crowd!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNza3prc0PY&NR=1

[metalangel]

Yeah, I feel your pain mate...

NOT! haha!

You buy a new and bigger bike every other month is why :p

At the current rate you'll be on a Busa next spring...

[sloppy joe]

Colin Edwards knee and elbow save, then waves to the crowd!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNza3prc0PY&NR=1

Skills I could only dream of.:sad:

[gruntygiggles]

You buy a new and bigger bike every other month is why :p

At the current rate you'll be on a Busa next spring...



Hahaha, you have a point there, especially when I am so short...lol :cool:

[Berlin]

tiz pretty hard to get your knee down when your my hight. on the odd occasion where my knee has touched down the bike is at such a fekin angle that its about to let go. so i supose those sliders would be of benefit. rofl

Are you really, really short? :)

The longer the leg the easier it is :) Look at Connor Cummings :)

C

[HIPPLE]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOCtjTHkx0g

[Shellywoozle]

I need them, never will get my knew down without unless I jump off the damn thing again.... 2 knees don't count I take it? Lol

[yorkie_chris]

I need them, never will get my knew down without unless I jump off the damn thing again.... 2 knees don't count I take it? Lol

knee down is cool
elbow down is cool

both knees followed by head and *rse is not cool!

[speedplay]

Do they do them in 8's, thats my only hope of getting my knee down!!:p


I would have thought that you were the last person to have a problem getting on your knees KJ....:confused:

[Reeder]

I would have thought that you were the last person to have a problem getting on your knees KJ....:confused:


:mrgreen:

I have 29" inside leg, so for me to get my knee down would be quite an achievment in my eyes! :)

[yorkie_chris]

I don't think leg length makes much difference to it... more about putting yourself in the right position TBH

[Reeder]

It must make a bit of difference surely?
For those with 4" longer legs, won't they have to have their bum less off the seat, or bike less distance over?

[2hys]

kneedown on a goldwing!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUpcQi5p5vI&feature=related he finally does it @ 2:30

[G]

It must make a bit of difference surely?
For those with 4" longer legs, won't they have to have their bum less off the seat, or bike less distance over?

Longer legs can make it more difficult because your body position can be more awkward and knees further forwards.

I imagine most people could get their knee down by the end of a trackday with someone following giving them pointer on their body position.

[benji106]

I was watching the motoGP a couple of weeks ago, and one of the front runners, cant remember who off the top of my head, lost one of his knee sliders, and you could see how much of a difference it was making when going through the corners. for those guys that get their knee down on every corner you could tell he was not comfortable without it.

[davepreston]

Longer legs can make it more difficult because your body position can be more awkward and knees further forwards.

I imagine most people could get their knee down by the end of a trackday with someone following giving them pointer on their body position.

awkward doesnt begin to describe how hard it is, it was easyer on my curvy ut on the thou it still illudes me
and something tells me ive got more than 4 inches more than reeder :)

I was watching the motoGP a couple of weeks ago, and one of the front runners, cant remember who off the top of my head, lost one of his knee sliders, and you could see how much of a difference it was making when going through the corners. for those guys that get their knee down on every corner you could tell he was not comfortable without it.
it was nicki hayden

[Messie]

awkward doesnt begin to describe how hard it is, it was easyer on my curvy ut on the thou it still illudes me
and something tells me ive got more than 4 inches more than reeder :)


it was nicki hayden

Show off!

[speedplay]

something tells me ive got more than 4 inches more than reeder :)



He will only want to see it...

[tactcom7]

He will only want to see it...

Or worse, touch it.

[Reeder]

Tbh, it's not much of an achievement to have 4 inches than me. I'm only at about 1".

[gruntygiggles]

Tbh, it's not much of an achievement to have 4 inches than me. I'm only at about 1".


You're only 1 inch???:smt104 You poor poor thing. ;)

[Reeder]

(My theory is that if I play it down, then they'll be impressed with the two inches)

[gruntygiggles]

(My theory is that if I play it down, then they'll be impressed with the two inches)

You're an eternal optimist then? ;-)

[Reeder]

Just giving myself the best chances I can :D

[minimorecambe]

Its not the size that counts..............................

[Sid Squid]

I have 29" inside leg, so for me to get my knee down would be quite an achievment in my eyes! :)
Same as me then, and if I can do it you can. Your body position is all that needs to change.

The thing I find about it is that most people are seeing the knee down as an end in itself, it isn't. Knee down is a symptom of shifting bodyweight to reduce bike lean angle to preserve grip - you're shifting the CofG such that a balanced turn is done at a lesser lean angle.

[yorkie_chris]

The thing I find about it is that most people are seeing the knee down as an end in itself, it isn't. Knee down is a symptom of shifting bodyweight to reduce bike lean angle to preserve grip - you're shifting the CofG such that a balanced turn is done at a lesser lean angle.

I disagree... you can get your bodyweight as fully off as it will go without sticking your knee out. And if you're daft you can even get your knee down without moving your CoG at all.

Knee down is just a feeler gauge to see where the floor is in relation to the bike.

[Sid Squid]

I disagree...
Yorkie Boy in disagreement shocker!

You have your democratic right to be as wrong as you like :p.

[BanannaMan]

Bananaman proved how much a set of GURLZ we were with our riding so he did a bit of 'fairing down' on a ride with Pete and Lissa to prove a point

; )



All while standing up screaming "No, No, No!"
It was a rare feat I wouldn't care to repeat. :oops:
Not many riders get a fairing down at 0 mph.
At least the bike shop didn't notice. :rolleyes:





and yes....you are a tart. :p

[yorkie_chris]

Yorkie Boy in disagreement shocker!

You have your democratic right to be as wrong as you like :p.

Maybe just your wording.... KD is not a symptom of weight transfer because you can transfer weight without scraping anything.