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hongman
14-08-10, 10:19 PM
So I was chatting to a mate and on the subject of tyres he said this.

Instinct tells me it's heresay - so is it fact or fiction?

Jackie_Black
14-08-10, 10:27 PM
Big ones do, depends how you ride. My vstrom thou loves eating rear tyres especially when i'm heavy handed with it. Its something to do with the way the engine delivers power i believe. Someone who knows the crack will be along soon no doubt though.

yorkie_chris
14-08-10, 10:33 PM
They tend to have plenty torque at the bottom and be somewhat responsive... if you are a mong with them the pulses will tear them quickly.

Jackie_Black
14-08-10, 10:39 PM
as eloquently put as ever matey. I'm occasionally a mong with mine but it's entertaining.

xXBADGERXx
14-08-10, 10:50 PM
Hongman , you worry too much :) . I monged my first tyre on the Pointy , it was a Metzeler Z something or other and it was bo11oxed after 1100 miles ....... Nowadays I can give Avon Storms some serious abuse and still get into the 5k area . The right tyre for the bike can make it handle better and still get good mileage , that Metzeler was chewed to death and the bike handled like a Suicidal Supermarket Shopping Trolley .

fizzwheel
14-08-10, 10:55 PM
My GSXR eats rear tyres. As Chris says if you are harsh with the throttle you chew up the rear tyre. Smooth & Progressive is the way to go.

andrewsmith
14-08-10, 10:59 PM
as YC said cr*p tires and mong riding will give wheelspin in 1st thro 3rd
stock (curvy) mez4's have some interesting characteristics......... Sh*te

yorkie_chris
14-08-10, 11:02 PM
The fact that they're 10 years old won't help.

andrewsmith
14-08-10, 11:06 PM
yup! racing down a main road with a chav give them half a chance

johnnyrod
14-08-10, 11:13 PM
Big bikes eat tyres, that's the end of it really. Doesn't make a lot of odds about the engine configuration, lots of ponies through the back tyre means it wears out, ride like a nun and it won't. If you're talking about the SV650, it's no worse on rubber than anything else.

rictus01
14-08-10, 11:15 PM
Any bike is capable of eating tyres epsecially rear ones, much depends on variables like riding style/throttle control/ bike weight and so on.

Generally speaking the more cylinders you have the more smooth the power delivery will be, on cold tyres this can lead to the surface tearing and wearing quicker.

Cheers Mark.

barwel1992
15-08-10, 12:19 AM
yes they can but so can any bike

i killed my mt-03 front and rear tires in 3k lol

hongman
15-08-10, 06:21 AM
Badger, I'm not worrying, lol. Just wondered if there way any truth to the whole story.

Sounds to me like a sensible summary is that any bike can "eat tyres" but it is more common on bikes like vtwins becuase IL4's have a naturally smoother power delivery.

dizzyblonde
15-08-10, 07:39 AM
Neither of my SVs eat tyres, cause I don't ride like a mong. Sometimes I may ride a bit on the spirited side occifer, but usually I get nails in them before they go bald.


However the VRaptor 1000 of mine makes them magically disappear, and it also does it to chains and sprockets too.

widepants
15-08-10, 07:50 AM
Neither of my SVs eat tyres, cause I don't ride like a mong. Sometimes I may ride a bit on the spirited side occifer, but usually I get nails in them before they go bald.


However the VRaptor 1000 of mine makes them magically disappear, and it also does it to chains and sprockets too.
dont u sometimes wish the whole "ugly bike" would disapear for a while to save your eyes
:smt056

GrahamB
15-08-10, 07:56 AM
Good suspension can make a big difference.

dizzyblonde
15-08-10, 07:57 AM
dont u sometimes wish the whole "ugly bike" would disapear for a while to save your eyes
:smt056


yeah that yellow bandit of yours is distracting me from the beauty of an Italian Stallion;):-dd

widepants
15-08-10, 08:00 AM
yeah that yellow bandit of yours is distracting me from the beauty of an Italian Stallion;):-dd
<<<<<<<<<<<<touche:)

dizzyblonde
15-08-10, 08:08 AM
:smt042:smt042

:kiss:

Berlin
15-08-10, 08:37 AM
You have to laugh! Bikes aren't hard on tyres, riders are!

Dicky Ticker
15-08-10, 09:34 AM
The compound make up of the tyre is also a major factor.A soft sporty compound will chew up a lot quicker than a substantial touring compound.
You fit sports tyres for grip
You fit touring tyres for longer life

It is worth looking at the intended major use of a tyre before deciding on the brand or type of tyre you fit.Initial cost is not always a winning factor but I can understand people wanting to try some thing different so as to find a compromise that fits the bill

yorkie_chris
15-08-10, 09:35 AM
If you're using a touring compound too hard, that can chew them too.

Dicky Ticker
15-08-10, 11:19 AM
Most reputable tyre suppliers will recommend a specific tyre for your purpose and make of bike. My supplier gives advice based on the performance achieved by a broad band of customers. Advice you either listen to or ignore as at the end of the day it is your money. Spending a few hours reading tyre reviews can give you an idea of expected performance but condition and set up of your suspension, tyre care and how you ride is a very big factor in the outcome.
i.e. I can usually manage 10,000miles from a front and 5000+ from a rear on a 1000cc triple with a higher torque than the SV but I ride like and old slowcoach,which equates to two rears for a front on premium brand tyres.

xXBADGERXx
15-08-10, 11:39 AM
Badger, I'm not worrying, lol. Just wondered if there way any truth to the whole story.


You`ll find that there can be a smidgeon of truth to some stuff you hear and then the rest of it is fleshed out in true "hearsay" and "urban myth" style . No harm in asking lad and , as you can see , it does provide a multitude of answers . I learned a long time ago that fitting the latest superstar track tyre will not turn you into a road hero of the massive testacled variety , ignore Industry buzzwords as well as it is advertising bullsh1t of the highest order when it comes to tyres . You can often be better off sticking your head up on here and asking a question and getting a myriad of answers from this vastly experienced bunch of reprobates and ne`erdowells . I had those Metzeler Z thingies , not good for the SV with a heavy hand , then some Dunlop D203`s I think ............ hmmm the less said about those the better , Avon Storms .... Stupendously good tyre , Avon Storm Ultra 2 ......... feels the same as the Storm but seem to be getting better mileage out of them . BUT , I daresay , if I went back to any of those tyres now and tried them again I would almost certainly get different results from them . I`m smoother on the throttle now , spend less time on the brakes , corner in a less aggressive fashion ...... it all adds up eventually and I`ve forgotten what I was gonna say . Stuff gets said , some of it is good , some is outright baloney ........... sod it , I am gonna go and make a Coffee as I`ve rambled myself into boredom now ....................




Oh that was it , fit a good tyre that suits your abilities at the time and always stick to the tyre pressures the manufacturer recommends , some will add more or less air but I`ve found to just stick with what the maker of the tyre recommends and you can`t go far wrong . Somebody will come along to refute this at some point because they are vastly more experienced than any tester of tyres and maker and their abilities are of the truly massive testacled variety ..... whereas we mere mortals can make do with what we are given and make the most of it to the best of our abilities ;)

Sid Squid
15-08-10, 11:41 AM
ride like a nun
Anyone got a habit I can borrow, (large obviously), my tyres always last well.

It's not about how much power you apply - it's about how you do it. I often get near on 200 miles before reserve too, that's about intelligent use of the throttle and the brakes and riding smoothly and economically in terms of effort, (I am basically quite lazy), not riding slowly. Smooth is the key.

trumpet
15-08-10, 04:51 PM
Anyone got a habit I can borrow, (large obviously), my tyres always last well.

It's not about how much power you apply - it's about how you do it. I often get near on 200 miles before reserve too, that's about intelligent use of the throttle and the brakes and riding smoothly and economically in terms of effort, (I am basically quite lazy), not riding slowly. Smooth is the key.

Ive averaged around 70 mpg for the last 12300 mls :qualifiers 4500 ;pilots 4500 :might get 5500 out of 034s.:confused: