View Full Version : Police avoid chasing bike thieves
minimorecambe
16-08-10, 08:45 PM
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20100816/tuk-police-avoid-chasing-bike-thieves-6323e80.html
Should let the rozzers chase them and if the theives fall off so be it...their own fault for not stealing the proper safety equipment! ;)
darkdreamsgal
16-08-10, 08:48 PM
hm... fan-bloody-tastic...
davepreston
16-08-10, 08:51 PM
And on the subject of helmets (http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/s/1313974_police_told_not_to_chase_motorbike_thieves __because_villains_werent_wearing_helmets)
Frustrating?
Yep.
Pete ;)
from idle banter muhahahahahahaha
its actually from richies helmet thread
Stupid thing is that the media just give other theives ideas...
davepreston
16-08-10, 08:57 PM
my post from the other thread
mate thats ridiculas ,how the hell are the plod sopossed to do there job with their hands tied like that
ok people here we go ,no plates doing 100 odd mph, thru a 20 zone, dont worry you'll get away with it cos plod cant chase ya , as long as you dont wear a lid ,
result,
i think not :rolleyes::smt120:confused:
Electro
16-08-10, 09:03 PM
My instructor told me when I was doing my training that if I was getting chased by the police to throw my helmet and the chase would end due to the national directive on this. Its wrong but if you were in the shyt i bet there would be a fair few that would do it.
MisterTommyH
16-08-10, 11:14 PM
Next they'll be saying they won't chase cars if the driver isn't wearing a belt....
ThEGr33k
16-08-10, 11:45 PM
So take your helmet off if you are being chased and your getting away... Hmph
Milky Bar Kid
17-08-10, 12:52 AM
So take your helmet off if you are being chased and your getting away... Hmph
However, they will then no doubt be able to ID you and then come and get you at a later date......:rolleyes:
yorkie_chris
17-08-10, 12:33 PM
However, they will then no doubt be able to ID you and then come and get you at a later date......:rolleyes:
So when were these bikes recovered?
Emphasis should be on the recovery of property*, not the thieves safety.
*Even if slightly bent and with bits of brain splattered on it.
Geodude
17-08-10, 12:44 PM
So when were these bikes recovered?
Emphasis should be on the recovery of property*, not the thieves safety.
*Even if slightly bent and with bits of brain splattered on it.
+1
Milky Bar Kid
17-08-10, 12:44 PM
I dunno, but I do agree with you.
My instructor told me when I was doing my training that if I was getting chased by the police to throw my helmet.
And this guy was qualified and registered? Sounds a bit irresponsible to me.
Geodude
17-08-10, 01:00 PM
So applying the same rules what if i rob a shop and do a runner up the road on foot only for the chasing coppers to point out i wasnt wearing proper running shoes and that might cause me an injury if i was to stumble or trip so they better call off the pursuit in the hope that i dont get hurt in the chase and that they might recognise me later? Its all gone daft IMO. rant over
martin15s
17-08-10, 01:12 PM
political correctness gone completely barmy - this is yet another case of those that (try) to do their job are at the mercy of those that just talk about it - I tell you, I am so glad to be a free man again after 30 (mainly) enjoyable years in the force. Brings to mind the time when we were "advised" not to pick up and hold young children/toddlers lost or in distress - in case someone thought we might be kiddy fiddlers!!
I understand Police don't chase bikes at all unless they are also on motorbikes. It's a crazy world! If you committ the crime and try and get away with it you should take the punishment, if that means you fall off that's your fault. However that doesn't seem to be the case today.
I know I wouldn't like to be the police officer involved in a fatal accident becuase I don't think the police officers are given the protection they deserve.
My instructor told me when I was doing my training that if I was getting chased by the police to throw my helmet and the chase would end due to the national directive on this. Its wrong but if you were in the shyt i bet there would be a fair few that would do it.
Let's hope they don't get your number plate first or it would be a waste of time in the long run!
Stuff like this really annoys me! The laws treat criminals like Kings and Queens! If you do the crime expect PUNISHMENT in any form!
But its true for cars too, if an officer is following a car on blues and toos and the driver is seem to be 'too' dangerous on the road they will call it off.
I understand Police don't chase bikes at all unless they are also on motorbikes. It's a crazy world!
Not 100% true.... Police bikes still need authorisation however are given more weight to give chase.
Bluepete
18-08-10, 08:49 AM
Have a read of this case from Manchester. (http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/s/1242551_death_chase_police_officer_cleared)
Just bear in mind, the "incident" PC Bruce was charged with was a long time before the crashand had no bearing on the crash.
This is what we have to deal with, the job will spend more time and effort investigating and prosecuting Cops than criminals.
Pete ;)
When are they going to make it law that as soon as you have broken (or are in the process of breaking) a law, you are deemed, in doing so, to have waived all "rights"?
Check out that Punctuation! I'm proud of that! :D
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jamesterror
18-08-10, 08:58 AM
bull **** and typical society.
Jayneflakes
18-08-10, 09:16 AM
Cool, expect cheap R1, Fireblade and CBR600 bits on E-Bay very soon! :smt045
I can see the add now Wheels with part worn tyres, hardly used due to lack of chase action! Plenty more where these came from...
Not sure I would want engine parts though, do you think that they would have run them in properly? :-dd
Red Herring
19-08-10, 07:34 AM
The issue with police pursuits is not just around the safety of such (which includes the risk to the public, not just to the offender) but also around what options that are available to the police. The days when they are allowed to just chase the bad guy until they crash are long gone, now the police pursue as part of a tactical resolution, in other words the pursuit has to be working towards a planned conclusion and the reality is that there are very few practical options available that the police can use to conclude a motorcycle pursuit. If there is no tactical resolution available then you must discontinue, those are the rules. You're not allowed to use a Stinger (bed of nails) against a bike, and you're not allowed to box them in (surround them with police cars). Just about the only practical option is to get air support onto the case and if they're not around it's all over.
yorkie_chris
19-08-10, 08:25 AM
Should be allowed to let drive at them with a GPMG. That'd f*** em.
Red Herring
19-08-10, 05:11 PM
When they tried giving me a Tazer I did ask if I could shoot it into fleeing vehicles and fry their electrics.... apparently it hasn't been approved for anything useful like that yet.
yorkie_chris
19-08-10, 06:37 PM
I don't think they've got a particularly long range for that. Plus not sure it would work... you'd just get a current across one body panel...
There was one thing I saw on some gadget show which was like a little remote control car that was fired at speed underneath a vehicle and somehow wrought electrical carnage.
Knowing my luck I'd try using one on a diesel and just end up resetting the stereo...
Red Herring
19-08-10, 07:13 PM
I don't think they've got a particularly long range for that. ...
Getting close enough is part of the fun....:D
Tom_the_great
20-08-10, 12:09 PM
Two words: GIANT NET :)
for digram please just ask i am bored an have ms paint to play with.
Red Herring
20-08-10, 03:36 PM
We've got one of them to, but it's designed to be used on lorries and such like, not bikes....
MisterTommyH
20-08-10, 03:43 PM
We've got one of them to, but it's designed to be used on lorries and such like, not bikes....
Who gets the job of trying to hold onto the end when a run-away lorry hits it?
Spiderman
20-08-10, 03:47 PM
Yet they happily empty 11 rounds at point blank range into an innocent mans head on the tube for simply looking " a bit dodgy" and get off scott free.
Its all upside down and higgeldy piggeldy to me, this way of law "enforcement".
Red Herring
20-08-10, 04:18 PM
Who gets the job of trying to hold onto the end when a run-away lorry hits it?
No-one! It has small barbs on the leading edge that pick up on the tyres and help the net wrap around the wheels bringing everything to a screeching halt.
Getting close enough is part of the fun....:D
To be fair a car can take 10000000 volts or be hit by lightning and the lectric wouldnt be effected in any way, so the tazer option wouldnt work.
Altough they did use a giant tazer fictionally in 2fast2furious lol.
martin15s
20-08-10, 04:35 PM
I've always favoured piano wire set about neck height - actually suggested this to some anti social off road bikers many years ago - they thought I was joking at first but then saw my face and muttered "you rotten bast**d" - come to think of, was I joking?
I hope you are or your a ****ing idiot
Red Herring
20-08-10, 05:42 PM
The Spanish police have a slightly different approach to us....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMt4Oi7zV4o
martin15s
20-08-10, 06:37 PM
I hope you are or your a ****ing idiot
chill out mate - obviously don't have a sense of (police) humour:cool:
chill out mate - obviously don't have a sense of (police) humour:cool:
It's hard to find any humor in it when two local chaps to me have been decapited in such a way at the local off road spot.
minimorecambe
20-08-10, 08:14 PM
It's hard to find any humor in it when two local chaps to me have been decapited in such a way at the local off road spot.
Bloody hell :(
Bluefish
21-08-10, 07:25 AM
Have a read of this case from Manchester. (http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/s/1242551_death_chase_police_officer_cleared)
Just bear in mind, the "incident" PC Bruce was charged with was a long time before the crashand had no bearing on the crash.
This is what we have to deal with, the job will spend more time and effort investigating and prosecuting Cops than criminals.
Pete ;)
Pete, the main problem with this case and most is the time it takes to come to court a year is way too long, not knowing any of the details i have no problem with the verdict given.
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