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So it turns out Ben Collins is the Stig after all, BBC lost their injunction.
Iīm curious and donīt know about this case, but how is it that they lost? Collins would surly have signed a confidentiality agreement with the BBC, by disclosing it in his autobiography surely that breaks those terms and conditions. Open, shut case.. so what am I missing?
So it turns out Ben Collins is the Stig after all, BBC lost their injunction.
Iīm curious and donīt know about this case, but how is it that they lost? Collins would surly have signed a confidentiality agreement with the BBC, by disclosing it in his autobiography surely that breaks those terms and conditions. Open, shut case.. so what am I missing?
Why would he be stupid enough to publish the book at the same time as wanting to work as the Stig? :?:
the_lone_wolf
01-09-10, 03:03 PM
Why would he be stupid enough to publish the book at the same time as wanting to work as the Stig? :?:
Same reason there's celebs on TG each week whoring themselves out for some publicity...
Nobody will buy "Ben Collins' Autobiography"
But they will buy "The Stig's Autobiography"
;)
Besides, it was pretty much public knowledge even before he revealed it - you'll never keep something like that secret
_Stretchie_
01-09-10, 03:12 PM
Should have waiting until begining of December to kick up such a fuss
dizzyblonde
01-09-10, 03:12 PM
I thought he was the old Stig, wasn't he the guy on the BBC breakfast the other morning talking about being the 'black evil stig'?
Edit....nope. He was different, he was bald.
_Stretchie_
01-09-10, 03:13 PM
He's did the grass downhill race against the spotty teenager on the skateboard with big wheels in a rally car and then in the Bowler, as himself not the stig
TRUE FACT
In a one of those tenuous links that Chris Evans does on his breakfast show, Ironically, I taught the guy that taught the Stig how to drive, how to fly fish! :)
I've known for years who The Stig was but never told a soul! :D
Bummer its out there now.
C
yorkie_chris
01-09-10, 03:32 PM
Should have got down the bookies mate, I would have!!
Owenski
01-09-10, 03:34 PM
First black stig was fired for revealing his identity. Then they got ben collins in to becoem new stig but his first job was to do the HMS invincible thing with the Jag where they cannon'd it off in the end in a big to haox killing black stig before indroducing new white stig the following week.
Most peoples suspicions were confirmed that Ben was the stig when he was listed on the accident report when richard flipped the rocket car in York. Suprises me that he's decided to publish it though because despite everyone knowing it, he still had deniability. Now he's sure to loose his job as the stig.
On a side note a woman at work who's now realyl confused is insisting they've got the wrong bloke and that schumacher is infact the stig "because she saw him on the show" We've tried to explain it but she just thinks we're all taking the ****.
The Guru
01-09-10, 03:38 PM
Smoke and mirrors...
I'm the real Stig :smt045
That's unfortunate, I liked to think The Stig was his name, and he kept the gear on for the sme reason Darth Vader wore his...
_Stretchie_
01-09-10, 03:41 PM
It's xxbadgerxx I tell you
_Stretchie_
01-09-10, 03:41 PM
That's unfortunate, I liked to think The Stig was his name, and he kept the gear on for the sme reason Darth Vader wore his...
'king ugly??
.. is this going to turn into "it was dangerous dave" thread??? ;)
'king ugly??
Exactly...
Lots of gear is the way forward, as The Stig and Darth Vader are two of the biggest tv icons ever! Haha
He shoulda kept it secret
... and negotiated a better contract for the merchandise rights.
Owenski
01-09-10, 04:01 PM
now ya thinking!
"ill keep quiet if you pay me the equivilent of what those guys all earn by been able to show thier faces"
Although, interviews with the stig would sell better than interviews with Ben Collins, I spose he needed this whole thing to go public just because most people would see "ben collins - autobiography" on the shelf and wonder who he was. Now people know he IS the stig he might be able to sell a few.
He could have just waited until his contract with top gear was up!
Pity what people do for money, as I bet if he wasn't The Stig then he wouldn't have written an autobiography
Lets face it, he had a pretty good job. I would have stfu. Now whats he going to do huh? Drive for BSM?
Lets face it, he had a pretty good job. I would have stfu. Now whats he going to do huh? Drive for BSM?
That made me LOL knowing what they decided to give my mum as a car to teach in... Fiat 500, the car that even Captain Slow Hates.
barwel1992
01-09-10, 05:02 PM
It's xxbadgerxx I tell you
'king ugly??
how rude ;)
Milky Bar Kid
01-09-10, 05:47 PM
I just think this guy has been a bit of an idiot, like Anna says, why not just wait til his contract was up and either negotiate better pay terms using the threat of the book or publish the book if the Beeb didn't hear him?! Win win situation!?
Specialone
01-09-10, 05:55 PM
Didnt Dave preston have a 'i am the stig' tee shirt on at the AR, now surely it cant be him can it ? ;)
Owenski
01-09-10, 06:34 PM
Thinking about it he may be tryin to cash in while it's hot, top gear has been crap lately maybe he is tryin to jump a sinking ship.
Stig revealed...?
It's Si.
garynortheast
01-09-10, 07:19 PM
Still none the wiser. Who the feck is Ben Collins?
Bluefish
01-09-10, 07:20 PM
Still none the wiser. Who the feck is Ben Collins?
The stig, ;)
davepreston
01-09-10, 07:25 PM
Didnt Dave preston have a 'i am the stig' tee shirt on at the AR, now surely it cant be him can it ? ;)
a bbc contract states i cannot comment on this at the present time ;)
Biker Biggles
01-09-10, 07:36 PM
So it turns out Ben Collins is the Stig after all, BBC lost their injunction.
Iīm curious and donīt know about this case, but how is it that they lost? Collins would surly have signed a confidentiality agreement with the BBC, by disclosing it in his autobiography surely that breaks those terms and conditions. Open, shut case.. so what am I missing?
Back to the OP
Contracts like this are only enforceable if they are legal in the first place.You can write what you like into someones terms and conditions but if a court decides those terms were unreasonable or contravene human rights,custom and practice or any other accepted norm they are null and void.
Its a bit like the sign that says "We accept no responsibility if our negligence maims you"
Oh yes you do.
garynortheast
01-09-10, 07:57 PM
The stig, ;)
Ah, all is now clear! Except one thing - who's the Stig? Er...no, don't answer that!:smt120
GeneticBubble
01-09-10, 09:41 PM
I can't wait to see how they kill off this stig, and what colour the new one will be?
red stig?
mkz9876
01-09-10, 09:45 PM
I can't wait to see how they kill off this stig, and what colour the new one will be?
red stig?
it will be pink stig, that blonde german bird
punyXpress
01-09-10, 09:47 PM
They'll NEVER have her - she's SO much quicker than Clarkson, J.
yorkie_chris
01-09-10, 09:51 PM
I can't wait to see how they kill off this stig, and what colour the new one will be?
red stig?
They had a red stig when they did the eastern bloc cars
GeneticBubble
01-09-10, 09:52 PM
Rainbow stig it is then
Wouldn't surprise me if they had a half and half, eg left side white, right side black, and said it turns out the two previous Stigs had Copulated and produced this new breed of Stig...
GeneticBubble
01-09-10, 09:56 PM
Wouldn't surprise me if they had a half and half, eg left side white, right side black, and said it turns out the two previous Stigs had Copulated and produced this new breed of Stig...
that would be sweeeet :rolleyes:
DarrenSV650S
01-09-10, 10:05 PM
Some people say he is simply an author struggling to get his book published.
Others say he is ex formula 3 racing driver Ben Collins.
All I know is, he's unemployed!
Owenski
02-09-10, 07:26 AM
ROFL!
That would be quality!
Roberrrrt
02-09-10, 09:38 AM
BBC's viewpoint:
http://transmission.blogs.topgear.com/2010/08/27/the-stig-he-is-ours/
BBC's viewpoint:
http://transmission.blogs.topgear.com/2010/08/27/the-stig-he-is-ours/
i think he's completely right to be annoyed, as I am a viewer and i am quite annoyed, but moreso disappointed that The Stig has decided to reveal himself... purely for money reasons, as otherwise an ex-Formula 3 driver wouldn't sell many autobiographies.
Sack him and get a half black half white Stig next :)
Tom_the_great
02-09-10, 10:52 AM
happended before didnt it(black stig) who drove off the ship as punishment ... same will happen again and they will bring in red stig?
happended before didnt it(black stig) who drove off the ship as punishment ... same will happen again and they will bring in red stig?
i would love to see the half black half white, but in all honestly i reckon they will keep him white, just get a new guy...
reason being over the past couple year it's become such a worldwide icon, like all of The Stig merchandise you can now get is bleedin awesome, so purely because of that I think they'll just replace the driver :)
Tom_the_great
02-09-10, 11:05 AM
Again true but think of of all mechandise they can re-release ! as its the "new" stig ... wonder if it will be PC and black white now brown even ???
Bedhead
02-09-10, 11:10 AM
I thought there was more than one, like when they drove the Renault F1 car, it was their test driver and when they did the snowmobile thing. :confused:
Owenski
02-09-10, 11:15 AM
it is when they're specialist challanges but notice how they say "stigs american cousin" or "stigs truck driving cousin" if its stig it usually is stig but if its someone else then it always comes with another title "stigs african cousin" for eg.
Tom_the_great
02-09-10, 11:16 AM
MS was the stig when they test drove the FXX as it was his car !
Sod all this, I want to know who the following were:
Stigs Lorry Driving Cousin
Stigs African Cousin
Stigs American Consin
etc etc
And more importantly, Stigs Girlfriend (That private race track episode with the RS4,AMG, M3 malarky)
I thought there was more than one, like when they drove the Renault F1 car, it was their test driver and when they did the snowmobile thing. :confused:
Yes there is more than one. The Stig as a concept was just a way to use whichever driver is most convenient but for it to appear to always be the same person.
When they had that Maserati MC12 on the Stig was played by the owner, and I'd wager that there have been dozens of people that have worn the "The Stig" suit for Top Gear over the years.
Owenski
03-09-10, 08:08 AM
Yes there is more than one. The Stig as a concept was just a way to use whichever driver is most convenient but for it to appear to always be the same person.
When they had that Maserati MC12 on the Stig was played by the owner, and I'd wager that there have been dozens of people that have worn the "The Stig" suit for Top Gear over the years.
+1
but Bens the ones who does the lap board times with the exception of 1 or 2 of the hyper-cars.
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