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xXBADGERXx
13-09-10, 12:31 AM
This is a repost of something from the Border Patrol section .

I was going up Rhuallt Hill on the A55 with a Pillion on Sunday morning . I was perfectly behaved on the road right until after St.Asaph . I saw the car in front of me and overtook in a progressive manner and decided to open the taps a bit up the hill to clear past all the Caravans and Lorries .. It is 3 lanes up there . Got to the top and backed off to 70 mph . The Audi overtook me about a minute later and pulled in front of me and I knew there and then that I was gonna get pulled , I backed off to 60 just as the Blues came on and pulled into Caerwys slip road . He got out and my Pillion got off and I removed the lid . He said "Do you want the bad news or the bad news ?" I just laughed and said "Go on then" . He explained that my average was 89 mph and that he had followed me up Rhuallt and that if it wasn`t a Sunday then I may have just had a telling off , but Sundays are Zero Tolerance and "Operation Focus" was in effect .

He made me an offer of a fixed penalty and 3 points and said I was remarkably good humoured about it all . I did explain that I have never had points ever and am not usually prone to giving it the berries , and that I was on my way to look at a car , handed him my licence . He actually apologised a few times to me as well which I found weird . Anyhooo , I got back on the bike and carried on up the slip road and re-joined the A55 on the other side and carried on my merry way . He appeared to carry on back around the roundabout as if he was gonna go back the other way , we saw a Police Bike doing the same thing a minute earlier . As it happens I carried on at a slower pace of around 65 mph whilst I mulled it all over and got it out of my system and resigned myself to the fact I had just increased my Insurance premium for a Car I had yet to buy ..... and blow me the same Police car came past me again . It was as if he waited a little bit and then decided to follow me again . Now in my Mirrors he went an entirely different direction , probably lurked for a minute to do something then joined the A55 , so if you do get pulled , don`t do an angry blast as you just may get a stiffer penalty .

This has not been my best Birthday weekend to be perfectly honest .... I knew I should have gone out and got piddled and then stayed in on a Sunday .

gruntygiggles
13-09-10, 01:06 AM
Ah no...this is poo, but at least you didn't get the "stiffer penalty" ;-)

Honestly, let it go and don't let it ruin your weekend...or your birthday celebrations.

Look at it as just something to look forward to.........you can now count down the time until you can get the points removed :-)

Binky
13-09-10, 01:19 AM
It´s about time someone got you to slow down.

Buying your new Honda is a start and this can only help...

davepreston
13-09-10, 01:33 AM
speeding you dirty criminal, none of us on here would do such a disgraceful thing, they should have thrown the book at ya










oh sorry 89 not 189 what are they complaining about and badge you must try harder

xXBADGERXx
13-09-10, 02:18 AM
Good job I was 2 up mate .... and that was average speed , I was clocked higher :(

metalangel
13-09-10, 05:45 AM
He actually apologised a few times to me as well which I found weird .

He feels guilty about having to book someone he knows full well (and even said) would have been let off otherwise!

Bri w
13-09-10, 06:07 AM
Tough luck Badger.

Nowt like a bit of consistent Policing ;);) to p!55 off Joe Public. Speed 6 days a week but take Sunday off...

Dicky Ticker
13-09-10, 07:34 AM
In todays modern society a SP30 and three points is the norm and my insurance company don't penalise you to any great extent for this. Having a clean license is a rarity for anybody who does a fairly high annual mileage,especially when a bike is involved-----Welcome to the club;)

Paul the 6th
13-09-10, 10:54 AM
I picked up 3 points at the end of july badger - 7 years of driving cars and 3 years on the bike without even a parking ticket, was getting on the motorway at about 55mph but nipped over a solid white line 'cos a truck was blocking me from getting on...

the police car behind the truck had me straight away. 25 next year as well - it woulda been a biig drop on insurance but now I get to decalre my points and push it back up again..

Still, better than getting the stiff penalty at wrecsam YOI ;)

the_lone_wolf
13-09-10, 11:02 AM
In todays modern society a SP30 and three points is the norm and my insurance company don't penalise you to any great extent for this.

Try being a younger driver with little experience, it can affect premiums a great deal:smt120

Sucks you got stung mate, but glad it's "only" an SP30 and not something spicier... Have you checked what your insurance may be on the car? Bearing in mind it'll jump once you pass your test - Not sure how they weight it combined with age and experience but I thought I'd got caught a few years back, probably 22/23 with 5/6yrs driving and the premium went up by ~10% - about £50 at the time, the jump was much higher when I was starting out but I was also young and stupid. Car insurers definitely seem to be harsher than bike insurers when it comes to ramping up the premium for little things...

Edit: had a mosey on over to your profile... I thought you were 10/15yrs younger dude, seriously, must be the afternoon naps;) - I reckon you'll be fine on the insurance front as you certainly don't fit the typical new driver profile:mrgreen:

RichT
13-09-10, 11:07 AM
You're not the only one - I received my latest 3 points (having just removed my first ever set) about a week ago.

Been driving 16 years, riding 4 ish. I speed pretty much every day (like most of us). So I don't see that as a bad record.

Owenski
13-09-10, 12:14 PM
You're not the only one - I received my latest 3 points (having just removed my first ever set) about a week ago.

Been driving 16 years, riding 4 ish. I speed pretty much every day (like most of us). So I don't see that as a bad record.

+1,
Pretty certain I got snapped by a mobile van yesterday, as RichT says.
I dont look at it as getting caught on that occasion, I thought fair enough I speed (all be it generally just over the limit much like yesterday) but Im not caught all time so that ticket is payment for all the times I've gotten away with it.

Made me chuckle tho, the bloke in the LH lane came past still accelerating while I'd dabbed the brakes to drop it back closer to the 50limit. He didnt touch his brakes until only 20/30yrds from the van, either he didnt give a monkies or his obs were terrible.

xXBADGERXx
13-09-10, 07:36 PM
Having a clean license is a rarity for anybody who does a fairly high annual mileage,especially when a bike is involved-----Welcome to the club;)

Yeah I am a 17,000 mile a year rider so it had to happen eventually , 20 years almost to the day I started riding .

had a mosey on over to your profile... I thought you were 10/15yrs younger dude, seriously, must be the afternoon naps;) - I reckon you'll be fine on the insurance front as you certainly don't fit the typical new driver profile:mrgreen:

I turned 39 on Friday mate , probably won`t affect bike premium but the car one jumped £200 when I added the SP30 to it :(

the_lone_wolf
13-09-10, 07:45 PM
I turned 39 on Friday mate , probably won`t affect bike premium but the car one jumped £200 when I added the SP30 to it :(

Ouch, still better than than six points I guess...:(

xXBADGERXx
13-09-10, 10:12 PM
Aye , could have been worse . Here are my rules to life

1. **** Happens .
2. See Rule 1.

shifter
13-09-10, 10:43 PM
I wont go into details but I collected 6 points in one fell swoop. Car insurance went up by £28 (£15 of that was an admin fee) and the bike didn't go up a single penny!
I must say I was expecting a lot worse.

Paul the 6th
14-09-10, 08:39 AM
are you meant to notify insurers straight away or is it at renewal time?

the_lone_wolf
14-09-10, 09:07 AM
are you meant to notify insurers straight away or is it at renewal time?

When my mum got her trio she told them and they said not to worry until renewal, and the paperwork for my policy with Admiral says you only need to tell them at renewal, but as is the case with anything to do with insurance your policy may be different - the only way to know is to call them or have a good read through the documentation...

Viney
14-09-10, 09:09 AM
Badger, i actually got done last year on my birthday for speeding. Bloody northern cops :lol:

shifter
14-09-10, 10:23 AM
When my mum got her trio she told them and they said not to worry until renewal, and the paperwork for my policy with Admiral says you only need to tell them at renewal, but as is the case with anything to do with insurance your policy may be different - the only way to know is to call them or have a good read through the documentation...

Both my car and bike insurance people said tell us when you renew, but I also think they liked the fact that I told them straight away, keeps them in the picture and helps avoid any misunderstanding.

Paul the 6th
14-09-10, 10:33 AM
I was just going to tell them at renewal but then if the worst happens and I have to make a claim, when they look at all my documents and see points which have appeared since the start of the policy in january this year, they might try and wriggle out of it?

the_lone_wolf
14-09-10, 10:55 AM
I was just going to tell them at renewal but then if the worst happens and I have to make a claim, when they look at all my documents and see points which have appeared since the start of the policy in january this year, they might try and wriggle out of it?
So phone them and tell them?;)

shifter
14-09-10, 12:45 PM
Both my insurance companies were realy good about it, they both said that if they didn't insure people who had been done for speeding then they would have no customers.
I think the powers that be have become a victim of their own success on this front - if everyone's been done nobody thinks anything of it, it just becomes normal to have a speeding conviction.
When I had my misshap I thought I'd be in for losing my job and insurance would price me off the road. As it turned out my insurance (car and bike) went up by a combined cost of 50p a week, and my boss just laughed and said "I've been banned twice don't worry about it -your jobs safe"