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maviczap
11-10-10, 06:56 PM
Right, my wife is trying to sell her Dad's almost brand new car. Sadly he passed away in July and her mum doesn't drive

Only one snippet of interest so far. See the correspondance from Jeff Dave or Dave Jeff below. Ive removed my wife's email address.

So who is his agent? Got to be a scammer :smt019



Thank you for your e-mail..


I have just contacted my agent to pay you by cheque/Draft from my Bank, the cheque/Draft will take only 5 days to your account, the cheque/Draft will be sent to you this week.


The following information is required by my agent to issue and send you the cheque/Draft to you:


1, Full names
2, Full Address
3, Telephone numbers


Reply.
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To: jeff.dave@live.com
Subject: RE: SUZUKI SPLASH 1.2 GLS + 5dr Hatchback £7900
Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2010 16:26:57 +0100

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My last price would be £7500. I'm selling it for my mum who doesn't drive, it was my dad's car but he died in july and so mum needs to sell it.

Thanks for your enquiry.

Kirstie


From: jeff.dave@live.com
Subject: SUZUKI SPLASH 1.2 GLS + 5dr Hatchback £7900
Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2010 10:09:38 +0000

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What is your last price for the car?

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Spikenipple
11-10-10, 07:02 PM
I wouldn't even give an e-mail like that a second look, it's clearly cr*p!

maviczap
11-10-10, 07:04 PM
Yep, I've just comeback from working away & its the first time I'd seen it

husky03
11-10-10, 07:06 PM
walk away and ignore emails from this type-if you entertain them hell mend you for getting stung, there's more than enough info telling folk to ignore these cons-if you want the car sold quick go speak to a dealer and see what he'll give you or stick it on ebay with your reserve-only cost you 30 quid

maviczap
11-10-10, 07:10 PM
walk away and ignore emails from this type-if you entertain them hell mend you for getting stung, there's more than enough info telling folk to ignore these cons-if you want the car sold quick go speak to a dealer and see what he'll give you or stick it on ebay with your reserve-only cost you 30 quid

Yep, agreed, she had no intention of responding

On the other hand I feel like sending him a ficitious address & telephone number :p

husky03
11-10-10, 07:39 PM
its really sick how much of this goes on-recently had an old dear conned out of 8 grand for a back garden job worth about 50 quid,and a guy ended up losing his life savings because some conman from nigeria had him buy travellers cheques for a fraction of the price but they turned out to be fake-he sent him real ones the first couple of times then stung him for his savings and sent the fakes-its sad.

maviczap
11-10-10, 07:42 PM
its really sick how much of this goes on-recently had an old dear conned out of 8 grand for a back garden job worth about 50 quid,and a guy ended up losing his life savings because some conman from nigeria had him buy travellers cheques for a fraction of the price but they turned out to be fake-he sent him real ones the first couple of times then stung him for his savings and sent the fakes-its sad.

Hence my wanting to string him along a bit :p

davepreston
11-10-10, 07:46 PM
must be nice to live in new scotland yard mav ;)

maviczap
11-10-10, 08:12 PM
must be nice to live in new scotland yard mav ;)

Yes, I've just moved there :p

PsychoCannon
12-10-10, 11:42 AM
Stick 419 eaters onto 'em :)

maviczap
17-10-10, 08:34 PM
Update

Mrs sent him a ficticous name & address to send cheque to :p

He replied saying cheque is on the way and to let him know when it has cleared :D

Next phase is to tell him cheque has cleared and come to ficticous address to collect the non existent car from the non existent house[-o<

I may offer to collect him from the station :cheers:

gruntygiggles
17-10-10, 08:36 PM
Haha, that just made me giggle. Would be great if you could see it through. Last time I got one of those, I sent a "get lost" type reply and got the most abusive email back...lol. I just don't bother anymore.

Hope you get to take him for a nice long walk up the garden path!

maviczap
17-10-10, 08:40 PM
Haha, that just made me giggle. Would be great if you could see it through. Last time I got one of those, I sent a "get lost" type reply and got the most abusive email back...lol. I just don't bother anymore.

Hope you get to take him for a nice long walk up the garden path!

Mrs isn't keen, but I'm up for this. Of course I won't even approach him, but I'm guessing he'll stick out a bit in my neck of the woods ;)

speedplay
17-10-10, 09:20 PM
Is this what you asked for my address for?

I'll admit, sending me a nigerian is far more creative than the spam gay porn mail I was expecting though!

maviczap
17-10-10, 09:22 PM
Is this what you asked for my address for?

I'll admit, sending me a nigerian is far more creative than the spam gay porn mail I was expecting though!

No I genuinly want your address, definitely not for Mr Umbungo :-D

speedplay
17-10-10, 09:23 PM
No I genuinly want your address, definitely not for Mr Umbungo :-D



I like umbongo...:)

http://www.childofthe1980s.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/umbongo.jpg

minimorecambe
17-10-10, 09:36 PM
I like umbongo...:)

http://www.childofthe1980s.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/umbongo.jpg

I hear they drink it in the Congo :)

andrewsmith
17-10-10, 10:45 PM
haha I would respond with spam saying that the shipment of viagra has been dispatched

maviczap
18-10-10, 07:34 AM
Better still I'm going to give him directions to my ficitious address, which just happens to be our Police station.

Its only a minute from the train station, perhaps I can video it

maviczap
18-10-10, 07:35 AM
Is this what you asked for my address for?

I'll admit, sending me a nigerian is far more creative than the spam gay porn mail I was expecting though!

You protest too much about this gay porn mularkey, I'm worried :-D

gruntygiggles
18-10-10, 07:50 AM
Better still I'm going to give him directions to my ficitious address, which just happens to be our Police station.

Its only a minute from the train station, perhaps I can video it

Yes, this action gets my vote ;-)

jonny.boyd
18-10-10, 09:41 AM
**Subscribed and looking forward to the outcome!!**

maviczap
19-10-10, 05:57 PM
Update

Email from Mr Umbongo (my name for him) asking if we've got his cheque yet and asking us to lodge in, then let him know when it clears

gruntygiggles
19-10-10, 08:56 PM
"lodge in" lol. Love it :-)

tigersaw
19-10-10, 09:16 PM
I doubt mr umbongo has any intention to come and get your car. He will have sent a cheque for £8000, and will ask you to send the other £500 to his shipping agent.

maviczap
20-10-10, 09:08 AM
I doubt mr umbongo has any intention to come and get your car. He will have sent a cheque for £8000, and will ask you to send the other £500 to his shipping agent.

In that case Mr Umbongo's agent will have to come and collect the cheque :p

maviczap
22-10-10, 07:16 PM
Right update on the last couple of days activity and a startling revalation

Mr Umbongo is not Nigerian, he's really Mr Knickersoffski from the Ukraine

Well Mr K as we'll call him sent MRS MZ an email requesting £3500 to pay to his agent to ship the car to him

Turns out the ficticous cheque he'd sent to Mrs G Raffe, at Letsby Ave had an extra £3500 added to the price of the purchase of the car. (yer right everyone pays up front shipping costs :smt019)

Oh yes could we send the money by Western Union, by Friday morning

We'd told him cheque was due to clear Monday, so scam is to get us to pay him from our money, before his rubber cheque is discovered, hence the need to pay him by this morning.

Wifey told him yesterday that it wouldn't be possible to get to Western Union (not that she would ever do this)

He asked if my wifes mum could do the transfer, as it was her car, sorry no he was told.

I was going to send him a penny, as he wanted the Western Union reference once we'd transferred the money

I also offered to get my brother in law to drive the car there, as he's working in the Ukraine at the mo.

Sadley Mr K has gone quiet on email since yesterday

Mrs called the Police to report it, but they couldn't do anything, although he did laugh when Mrs told him the ficticous name & address we'd given Mr K

yorkie_chris
22-10-10, 07:29 PM
Make up a western union reference number and possibly scan the "western union" reciept... get the facker to walk to the post office for nowt at least :)

maviczap
22-10-10, 07:36 PM
Make up a western union reference number and possibly scan the "western union" reciept... get the facker to walk to the post office for nowt at least :)

Thats why I wanted to send him just a penny by Western Union :p

I was out the whole day, so wifey had to think up the answers, she's not as evil & twisted as I am :mrgreen:

svrich
22-10-10, 07:59 PM
Mav, you should have a go at the 'Perfect Murder' thread :)

maviczap
22-10-10, 08:02 PM
Mav, you should have a go at the 'Perfect Murder' thread :)

Yes, handily we've got the paper suits and forensic gloves at work, which are needed if you're going to avoid detection :rolleyes:

yorkie_chris
22-10-10, 10:28 PM
Thats why I wanted to send him just a penny by Western Union :p

I was out the whole day, so wifey had to think up the answers, she's not as evil & twisted as I am :mrgreen:

419 baiter.. have a read :)

maviczap
27-10-10, 05:19 PM
Final installment of the scam.

Well Mr K sent a few emails asking for payment to his agent to be mage by 10 on Monday, which was when the fictious cheque he'd sent should have cleared. So my wife responded to him that she had in fact sent him the £3500, although convieniently forgetting the Western Union reference number he wanted.

Several emails were exchanged with Mr K, as he wanted various details of the Western Union transfer, commission paid, amount sent, by whom sent etc, as he must have been in or nearby a Western Union branch desperately waiting for the money to arrive, before his dodgy cheque bounced, as although it might have cleared in the UK bank, it would still not have been cleared in the foreign bank, which is how the fraud works.


Anyway the final email from him asked when his agent could collect the car :rolleyes: (yeh right)

So my wife sent him the following, plus these pictures

This is where the car is kept (our local)
http://s0.geograph.org.uk/geophotos/01/44/23/1442309_fd31e799.jpg



This man will meet you
http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/01_04/SirIanBlairLL_468x339.jpg


He will ask you to put these on

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTOVxvXlOyRcyX7COGx8nQ9rgCZlWbN4 ICUzA96rMn2TqDMfIXC9g


She never heard back from him after this :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

gruntygiggles
27-10-10, 05:47 PM
That is just class! To get him in a western union place probably nervous as hell waiting around and then send him that email is priceless.

Good job! :-)

speedplay
27-10-10, 05:49 PM
Mr Umbongo must be well p155ed!!

He never turned up at my house either! lol

maviczap
27-10-10, 06:34 PM
Mr Umbongo must be well p155ed!!

He never turned up at my house either! lol

You didn't read my earlier post, it wasn't Mr Umbongo, but Mr Knickersoffski from Kiev :p

maviczap
27-10-10, 06:35 PM
That is just class! To get him in a western union place probably nervous as hell waiting around and then send him that email is priceless.

Good job! :-)

She had also printed off a dumy Western Union slip, but pretended that she was at work and couldn't scan it in an send it, just to prolong his agony

gruntygiggles
27-10-10, 07:02 PM
She had also printed off a dumy Western Union slip, but pretended that she was at work and couldn't scan it in an send it, just to prolong his agony


Awesome, I think me and Mrs. Maviczap would get along rather well :-)

maviczap
27-10-10, 07:07 PM
I was goading her to string this bloke along, but the pictures were all her idea, classic :cheers:

gruntygiggles
27-10-10, 07:09 PM
I was goading her to string this bloke along, but the pictures were all her idea, classic :cheers:


Good girl! :cool:

maviczap
27-10-10, 07:14 PM
Only trouble is we still have a nearly new car unsold. Cest la vie

It was fun whilst it lasted, and at least she didn't get stung by this scam

barwel1992
27-10-10, 09:53 PM
hahahah that brilliant! :D

andrewsmith
27-10-10, 09:57 PM
Mate absolute jem!!