Chilian Miners

[minimorecambe]

I am extremely interested how this is all going to work out so it looks like I am stsying up until past 2am when they have estimated the start of the rescue.

Something doesnt seem right to me :(:confused:

[Binky]

I hope the Bolivian guy comes out first. Bolivians are very important you see.

[monkey]

I've just deleted what I was going to post.

It all looks a bit Mickey Mouse to me.

I think there should be a lottery over who comes up first.

[amnesia]

First three are out.

It's the first genuine good news story that has been reported for ages.

[Speedy Claire]

I`ve been waiting for this moment for the last 2 months and can`t even begin to imagine how it must feel to be reunited with family after all this time. What those poor men must have gone and still be going through is indescribable.

4 up so far and god willing the remaining 29 will be safely brought to the surface today. Well done to all those involved in the rescue for all their hard work.

[robh539]

It's the first genuine good news story that has been reported for ages.

+1

I thought this day wouldn't happen, I'm so pleased there being rescued. They look remarkably well, considering what they and been through.

Brave people and the the medic(s) that went went down there first.

I think there is reminder to us all there, no matter how hard things seem.............. to never give up.

[Messie]

I am extremely interested how this is all going to work out so it looks like I am stsying up until past 2am when they have estimated the start of the rescue.

Something doesnt seem right to me :(:confused:

What on earth doesn't look right?

It seems they've done an excellent job and they should all be safe and sound soon

[danf1234]

What on earth doesn't look right?

It seems they've done an excellent job and they should all be safe and sound soon

Yeah I thought the same. What's not right, they are bringing them out?

[Berlin]

Well done to everyone involved! Superb dedication and a great outcome!

[simesb]

Typical rolling news over-reporting. What has happened has been a great show of resourcefulness, and it is a feel good story, but the news has managed to get well over-excited about it.

On News 24 they cut away from mid-way through the live Booker prize acceptance speech to go 'live' to the Chilean President who was just finishing a 'hasn't Chile down great' speech. In Spanish. Now the Booker may or may not be your thing, but their priorities were a bit messed up.

Best quote of the night from a newscaster; "Despite the hundreds of journalist here, something could still go wrong". :D:D

[gruntygiggles]

+1

I thought this day wouldn't happen, I'm so pleased there being rescued. They look remarkably well, considering what they and been through.

Brave people and the the medic(s) that went went down there first.

I think there is reminder to us all there, no matter how hard things seem.............. to never give up.


They had to make 2 days worth of food last for the first 17 days, but since then, they have been getting a proper diet supplied. If you believe what you hear, some have even had to slim down to be rescued due to the size of the capsule.

It's a great story. I personally don't care that the media are giving it so much coverage or for what reasons as it sure as hell beats the usual news fodder!

[tactcom7]

I`ve been waiting for this moment for the last 2 months and can`t even begin to imagine how it must feel to be reunited with family after all this time. What those poor men must have gone and still be going through is indescribable.

4 up so far and god willing the remaining 29 will be safely brought to the surface today. Well done to all those involved in the rescue for all their hard work.

I imagine it's a lot like being on a submarine or on operations in the middle east for 6 months

[keithd]

It all looks a bit Mickey Mouse to me.

I think there should be a lottery over who comes up first.

a bit Mickey Mouse? thats nice! Im sure any method of rescue is good for them, Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck, Pluto anything.

I think the fittest are being brought up first, sounds a bit odd but apparently its very stressful and chlaustrophobic in the rescure pod/capsule and takes over an hour for each miner to be brought to the surface.

good luck to them all and their subsequent book deals and movie rights payments :)

[Owenski]

I imagine it's a lot like being on a submarine or on operations in the middle east for 6 months

my thoughts exsactly,

impressed they lasted the 17 days or what ever to start with but once contact was made and supplies dropped in then its no more impressive than people serving in our forces who spend much longer away from thier loved ones.

[Speedy Claire]

I imagine it's a lot like being on a submarine or on operations in the middle east for 6 months

Maybe but personally I can`t see how it can be compared to that. People on submarines or on operations are in purpose built accommodation, they also expected and planned to be where they are for 6 months and their families will expect them to be away for 6 months. These guys didn`t, they must have gone thru hell for the first 17 days when there was no contact with the outside world and the psychological impact of not knowing whether or not they were going to die down there? Even when they were aware of the rescue attempt they wouldn`t know if rescue was going to be safely achieved or not. Service personnel are more likely to be used to living in cramped conditions with other personnel. These guys had to get used to living in confined spaces with 32 other men all going through a range of emotions. Also on a submarine there is a designated pecking order which is not questionned, somebody is appointed to make decisions etc. I doubt there would have been the same level of control for the miners leading to conflict etc.

So nope I think it`s entirely different circumstances and can`t be compared :D

I also don`t think that the press have gone overboard at all... in fact, I think I think it`s been the opposite for the last 2 months. It`s wonderful to see these men being brought to the surface and reunited with families.

[tactcom7]

If you mean purpose built as in tent or shell scrape or hesco bastion fortress then fair enough. Do submariners know where they are all the time? No. Do they go for longer than 2 months without surfacing? Hell yes. Do they hot bunk and share beds, yes. I can see what you're saying and yes the first few days must have been hell but since then it's become a bit of a circus. Do service people have their families camped a few thousand metres away? Err no.

Oh and what can they look forward to upon their return, media fan fare book deals and movie rights? Err no, yes the odd parade but these days littered with groups of evil people chanting hate slogans and generally shouting abuse at the people who have put their lives on the line for Queen and Country.

Will the miners be celebrated wherever they travel? Yes, could I have walked into some shops/hotels in my uniform and be served with a smile? Doubtful.

Oh and let's not forget everyone is trying to help the miners, whilst out in afghan every man and his donkey is trying to kill you.

Rant over.

[yorkie_chris]

I won't speak ill of those who take the Queens shilling, or defend some hippy slags or towelhead idiots.

But, I don't think what goes on with soldiers cheapens what is going on with these miners. Good luck in a bad situation saved by some good engineering. Fair enough it's a bit of a media circus... but that doesn't change the facts of it.

[anna]

I dont think this situation should be compared on anything but its own merits.

33 men trapped and pretty much the world has come together to show support, from NASA to submarine pilots have been there to give them their support and solidarity.

I personally think this is one of those really touching news stories, that show how things work for good when everyone comes together.

Of course the media concentrates on the best story and leaves out the miners who have been out of work during the time this has happened, such as the way with the media.

In the difficult times of recession for everyone a good "pick-up" story is what everyone wants to see, and this has provided a fantastic one.

I hope that the rest of those trapped are rescued in an equally safe and timely manner. [-o<

[The Guru]

... takes over an hour for each miner to be brought to the surface...

20 minutes is the actual ascent time quoted on the news to pull them out.

20min to lower the pod, 20min to lift the pod and say 20min prep time, theres your 1hr.

[benji106]

would not fancy being the last man, that will be a long hour.

[monkey]

Stuff

More stuff

I find it hard to believe that these men are on telly and are willingly lapping up the limelight despite not even being out yet. All they've done is endure a mine collapse 2000 feet below ground with no forseeable way out and sit around for 17 days facing a horrible slow death of NO REAL CHOICE OF THEIR OWN.

[The Guru]

would not fancy being the last man, that will be a long hour.

Probably be the 'Special Forces' Medic.

[Speedy Claire]

I find it hard to believe that these men are on telly and are willingly lapping up the limelight despite not even being out yet. All they've done is endure a mine collapse 2000 feet below ground with no forseeable way out and sit around for 17 days facing a horrible slow death of NO REAL CHOICE OF THEIR OWN.


Am not sure if you`re serious or joking?????

[tactcom7]

I find it hard to believe that these men are on telly and are willingly lapping up the limelight despite not even being out yet. All they've done is endure a mine collapse 2000 feet below ground with no forseeable way out and sit around for 17 days facing a horrible slow death of NO REAL CHOICE OF THEIR OWN.

Oh wait because everyone knows mining is safe when they sign up? Err no.

They knew the risks. The mine collapsed. They're heroes, apparently.

[Speedy Claire]

Oh wait because everyone knows mining is safe when they sign up? Err no.

They knew the risks. The mine collapsed. They're heroes, apparently.

Sorry but you appear to have a real chip on your shoulder. Can`t you just feel happy for them and their families that they didn`t die down there?

So what if they`re heroes, personally I think they deserve every bit of attention they get... does their being in the spotlight affect you in any way? I doubt it so either be grateful for their safe return to their families or stop watching/listening to any more reports and then you won`t feel obliged to comment and spoil a happy event for the rest of us!

[Shellywoozle]

Sorry but you appear to have a real chip on your shoulder. Can`t you just feel happy for them and their families that they didn`t die down there?

So what if they`re heroes, personally I think they deserve every bit of attention they get... does their being in the spotlight affect you in any way? I doubt it so either be grateful for their safe return to their families or stop watching/listening to any more reports and then you won`t feel obliged to comment and spoil a happy event for the rest of us!

+1 I with Claire on this one.

Glad they are safe and reunited with their families and loved ones.

[tactcom7]

I don't have a chip on my shoulder and I've not watched the news all day.

I don't begrudge them coming out, what kind of horrible person would that make me?

I am happy they are alive and that they are safe (they all got out I presume?)

I just don't see it as such a big deal/triumph. People go through far worse and don't get anywhere near the amount of coverage as these guys. If people from the UK want to see heroes then then should start looking a lot closer to home, and if someone includes my post in a comment then I surely have a right to reply.

[simesb]

I just don't see it as such a big deal/triumph.

It is quite a big deal, and the miners and the Chileans have done very well; I'm just not convinced we need blanket coverage.:confused:

[missyburd]

I just don't see it as such a big deal/triumph. People go through far worse and don't get anywhere near the amount of coverage as these guys. .

Or maybe the press are simply jumping at the chance of reporting on something positive for once, something that the whole world can reflect on and think about how much they should appreciate the lives they have and the families they are fortunate to love.

I don't see why these miners need to be grudged the publicity. It's not like any one of them will be rolling in the pennies, if they can make a safer living from selling a story then maybe that's a benefit?

I personally think it's a lovely story, everyone is talking about it, beats serial murders, peadophiles and bombings any day.

[monkey]

Am not sure if you`re serious or joking?????

I was being sarcastic and I agree with your posts.

I haven't heard the miners being called heroes but I can't see they're heroes, exactly the same way I don't think people who survive life threatening illness are heroes or people who sign up to get blown up are heroes.

I can't wait to get home to see it on the telly. Apparently it's like Surprise Surprise without Cilla!

[The Basket]

I like this story.

Good stuff

To compare the miners and military personnel is a bit far fetched.

media overkill...but a nice story.

[tactcom7]

Ok perhaps i worded I badly. It is a big deal and I'm glad they're out alive. And it's certainly a triumph of engineering and YC said, especially when initial reports were saying it could be as far away as Christmas before they were rescued.

The only reason I brought in the military comparison was because someone said I wonder what it's like not to see your family for 2 months, or words to that effect.

I don't begrudge them the publicity, just like simesb said i don't think it required quite as much as it's got that's all.

[Speedy Claire]

I think the real heroes are the geologists, the engineers and everyone who has worked tirelessly to make this rescue possible and it`s lovely to watch the reunions with families.

[monkey]

Sorted!

I don't think it's his family silly boy Yonni Barrios was missing. Aparwntly his Wife turned up to greet him as well as his mistress.

[The Basket]

Sorted!

I don't think it's his family silly boy Yonni Barrios was missing. Aparwntly his Wife turned up to greet him as well as his mistress.

2 women on the go. Being stuck in a mine must seem like a dream.

Bet he asks to be put back.

[Biker Biggles]

Sorted!

I don't think it's his family silly boy Yonni Barrios was missing. Aparwntly his Wife turned up to greet him as well as his mistress.

He's not a hero,he's a very naughty boy.:p

What makes this story such big news is the fact that it is quite unique.No mine rescue has ever managed to get so many men out from so deep after so long.(Apologies to Mr Churchill;))And all of it on TV.And what a great engineering achievement to boot.
As for the military comparison,there isnt one really.

[Lozzo]

When I heard on the news that they were pulling miners out of the ground, I thought they'd re-opened the Fred West case again

[thulfi]

I don't get this comparing civilians to military men business. A miner being trapped for 2 months is when sh*it for them goes wrong. A soldier in a submarine for 2months is another day on the job

Either way, I don't think you can be deemed a hero just because you got stuck in a mine for 70days, but who cares anyway? Good for them and their families that they're out. These men are miners. They probably are not well off, and have wifeys and kids to support. I'm glad they made it out, for their sake and their families.

[thulfi]

All those days down there in that mine. Musta got a bit chile.

[monkey]

Unfortunately Claudio Acuna was told the devastating news that 69 days ago he forgot to clock in.

Now they're all safe...

LET THE JOKES BEGIN! :cheers: