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Stonesie
17-10-10, 10:16 PM
Not one of those cyclists that ride down the bus lane when there is a dedicated cycle lane 2 feet to your left are you? those cretins deserve abuse for being terminally stupid.

I've only filtered on the SV once so far and got shouted at by some pikey in a L200, he got a cheery wave as I calmly left him to stew in the traffic.

simesb
17-10-10, 11:24 PM
I would actually argue that a training course is actually better than a test. As you'd have to successfully complete a course, rather than just get lucky for 20 minutes... the examiner/trainer would be more likely seen as friend than enemy and you might actually learn something.

If it is a course you can fail, surely it must have an element of 'test' whatever you call it.

Not one of those cyclists that ride down the bus lane when there is a dedicated cycle lane 2 feet to your left are you? those cretins deserve abuse for being terminally stupid.

If you mean the cycle paths on pavements, then they are frequently more dangerous than cycling on the road due to the crossing of side roads. If you are talking about the cycle lane on the road, then DfT best practice is for cyclist to not use them if they intend to be travelling at more than 18 mph (which is not hard for a reasonably fit cyclist on a road bike on the flat).

Stonesie
17-10-10, 11:40 PM
There's a specific one in Doncaster that's over a bridge that used to be 2 lanes each way, now 1 each way as a bus lane, either side of that up the curb is a cycle lane easily wide enough for 2 push bikes, 1 each side of the roadway, on the outside of that is the pavement which is wider than the cycle lane.

Now this is a hump back bridge so even to bus drivers (sat higher up than car drivers) it is a blind crest but most cyclists still ride on the roadway, some even against the flow of traffic.. I've had a few near misses with them and they always get abusive as if the bus shouldn't be there.... In the bus lane......

yorkie_chris
18-10-10, 01:06 AM
If it is a course you can fail, surely it must have an element of 'test' whatever you call it.


Aye, but if the intent is to train not to test... then you'd call it a course.

Reeder
18-10-10, 09:37 AM
So basically you hide behind a "scary" costume to be scary - :batman: - OOOOH !

Thats a great way to get the general public and the government behind the idea that bikes are a great form of economical transport that would cut pollution and congestion, thus reducing tax on bikes and then maybe the government would even start to consider pro-biking campaigns to help the industry grow and get more people riding bikes. (more bikes = less cars to obstruct you)

This immature idea that bikers should be feared is older than the hills, 20 years ago coppers didnt bother with smalll plates, black visors and load pipes because it hadnt been brought to the forefront of their minds by every man and his dog trying to have the loudest meanest bike.

The UK was a great place to ride around, now with nobbers on the road dressing up like batman, rising like ****s and generally being ********s the police have found its easy picking and very profitable for them.

If you ride defensively not offensively you will have very few if any "near misses" you will get to where you are going smoother and faster and overall safer. That may be considered a boring attitude but boring is better than dead or sat in a hospital bed. Who gives a toss if some guy in a car moves over to block your way, jeez if thats your only problem that day then it looks like you will be having a good one!

Follow me through the lakes on my S1000RR (with standard pipe and standard number plate - shock horror) and tell me you were bored with the pace, then follow me down the same roads on my KTM 690SMC and tell me you need more than 63bhp on a UK road - my signature says it all.The only difference is my fast means 60ish on the country roads keeping it smooth and flowing, not (like 90% of bikers) 20 or 30 round the corners and 130 on the straights - thats just dangerous and **** riding!

First Matt, you're a c***. Everyone is aware of that now.
Second, I don't use a 'costume' to be scarey. I use my 'costume' to protect myself. If that means that people notice me and don't want to **** about, then that's only a good thing in my eyes.
Third, it's not like tax is expensive on a bike, so stfu and quit moaning.
Fourth, I don't have the idea that bikers should be feared. The fact that people will give me more respect for looking more aggressive is surely the wrong doing of the motorists. They should be offering the same amount of respect to any biker on the road.
Fifth, at what point have I ever stated that I ride in any other way than respectably?
Sixth point, When have I said I have near misses?
Seventh, do you have such a small penis that you need to boast how amazing you are round the back roads to make yourself feel better when this thread is actually about filtering?
Lastly, I return to my first point. You're a c*** :) now go away and boast about your penis size somewhere else.

That is all.

Wideboy
18-10-10, 10:07 AM
Hahahaha!

andrewsmith
18-10-10, 10:09 AM
:smt038:smt038:smt038:smt038:smt038:smt038:smt038: smt038

SoulKiss
18-10-10, 10:15 AM
You're all a big bunch of pussies, Try riding a pushbike on the road and then see the level of abuse you get hurled at you. Trust me you wont moan about being moaned at when filtering on your motorcycle anymore.

Stop running read lights then you lycra-lout :p

hehe

maxinc
18-10-10, 10:23 AM
First Matt, you're a c***. Everyone is aware of that now.

Would you be able to say that to someone's face without wearing your full kit and dark visor? Everyone should afford some manners, they're cheaper than bike tax.

Reeder
18-10-10, 10:29 AM
Would you be able to say that to someone's face without wearing your full kit and dark visor? Everyone should afford some manners, they're cheaper than bike tax.

Yes I would. Assault is against the law.

maxinc
18-10-10, 10:31 AM
Did you get out of the wrong side of the bed this morning batman :batman: :toss:

Matt, why are you transforming every thread you touch into some kind of vendetta stage. Can't you just get over it and stop picking fights with everyone on these forums?

simesb
18-10-10, 10:36 AM
Matt, why are you transforming every thread you touch into some kind of vendetta stage. Can't you just get over it and stop picking fights with everyone on these forums?

It seems he's copping more verbal than he is giving. :rolleyes:

yorkie_chris
18-10-10, 11:14 AM
So basically you hide behind a "scary" costume to be scary - :batman: - OOOOH !

Thats a great way to get the general public and the government behind the idea that bikes are a great form of economical transport that would cut pollution and congestion, thus reducing tax on bikes and then maybe the government would even start to consider pro-biking campaigns to help the industry grow and get more people riding bikes. (more bikes = less cars to obstruct you)

This immature idea that bikers should be feared is older than the hills, 20 years ago coppers didnt bother with smalll plates, black visors and load pipes because it hadnt been brought to the forefront of their minds by every man and his dog trying to have the loudest meanest bike.

The UK was a great place to ride around, now with nobbers on the road dressing up like batman, rising like ****s and generally being ********s the police have found its easy picking and very profitable for them.

If you ride defensively not offensively you will have very few if any "near misses" you will get to where you are going smoother and faster and overall safer. That may be considered a boring attitude but boring is better than dead or sat in a hospital bed. Who gives a toss if some guy in a car moves over to block your way, jeez if thats your only problem that day then it looks like you will be having a good one!

Follow me through the lakes on my S1000RR (with standard pipe and standard number plate - shock horror) and tell me you were bored with the pace, then follow me down the same roads on my KTM 690SMC and tell me you need more than 63bhp on a UK road - my signature says it all.The only difference is my fast means 60ish on the country roads keeping it smooth and flowing, not (like 90% of bikers) 20 or 30 round the corners and 130 on the straights - thats just dangerous and **** riding!


Seems a bit misguided there. First "road rage" I was victim of was on a perfectly standard and legal bike while I was engaged in a perfectly legal manoeuvre passing a line of stationary traffic at a safe and legal speed.

Also the point about it being a modern thing is BS, bikers have always been seen as idiots from way back when bikes were aircooled and leaked a lot... think cafe racer culture etc way back in 50s. Bikers are more civilised than ever before because you can't get away with as much!!

Got to say I do give a toss if someone gets in the way, how petty and vindictive is that? Trying to delay you in a dangerous position on the road where probably the only driver who has seen you is the one who would rather you fell off! The thing which confuses me about it is it doesn't make their journey any quicker in the slighest.
Fact that you don't see it as a big deal is if you ride always on twisties then you probably don't spend much time filtering.

The revenge tactics I prefer are the ones which do no damage, but just cause the offending driver some minor inconvenience to match the one they caused you when they have to stop to close the boot or back door or fold the wipers back down :)
But, these days I tend to just get by however I can and get on with my day.

Swin
18-10-10, 11:29 AM
+1 to YC's last comment, I try not to let other road users antics wind me up too much, the last thing I want is an off because I was still wound up over somebody else and not concentrating on what I'm doing!

Must say, years ago I had a van driver who was absolutely frothing at me for having the temerity to overtake him, waving a chair leg at me out of his window and all sorts, how I didn't fall off through laughing at him is a miracle, which actually made him even worse!

Bri w
18-10-10, 12:26 PM
The older I get the less it bothers me.

Get past when its safe, and get on enjoying your day.

Do you think the kn0bheads spend time talking to on a forum about who filtered past him that morning? Afford him as much time as he/she did to you.

Messie
18-10-10, 12:30 PM
Yorkie_chris

So you would bother to take the time to open someones boot or back door to get "revenge", whats all that about? Life is too short to need revenge for anything, especially as trivial as a minor altercation on a road.

indeed for anything. Even for something as trivial as a minor misunderstanding about advertising on a bike forum

MisterTommyH
18-10-10, 12:32 PM
Doesn't bother me usually. Theres a spot round here where the left lane is queuing due to an roundabout ahead, and you often get vans sitting in the outside lane to block other cars cutting in at the front - can be a hassle on a bike though.

What does bother me is the car travelling at 30 down a 50 this morning, i move out, start to go past and they accelerate to 50. Wouldn't have been a problem if there hadn't been a speed camera right there meaning I couldn't go faster to get past. Maybe my bad judgement, but don't see how I coould have predicted such rapid acceleration.

Reeder
18-10-10, 12:34 PM
If batman wants to start spitting abuse, i think i am entitled to respond!

If reffering to me, then I must be following your trend.

Amanda
18-10-10, 12:36 PM
indeed for anything. Even for something as trivial as a minor misunderstanding about advertising on a bike forum


+1

I'm shocked how recent threads are turning into nothing more than sla88ing matches and one up manship.

Everyone just get over yourselves and love each other. :smt008

Bri w
18-10-10, 12:39 PM
+1

I'm shocked how recent threads are turning into nothing more than sla88ing matches and one up manship.

Everyone just get over yourselves and love each other. :smt008

I go away for a week in the sun, and come back to an overturned playpen. :D

Maybe I left a window open ;)

maxinc
18-10-10, 12:39 PM
If batman wants to start spitting abuse, i think i am entitled to respond! Maybe i should use my anti-bat repellant :batman: :smt065

Of course you are entitled, but I was wondering why bother? What are you trying to prove? You are not annoying anyone other than yourself and surely you are the only one suffering the consequences on the long term.

MisterTommyH
18-10-10, 12:43 PM
Everyone just get over yourselves and love each other. :smt008

Thats a bit ghay tho...

yorkie_chris
18-10-10, 12:52 PM
Yorkie_chris

So you would bother to take the time to open someones boot or back door to get "revenge", whats all that about? Life is too short to need revenge for anything, especially as trivial as a minor altercation on a road.

I see it as a bit of harmless fun that gives me a giggle... especially with the irony that they've just been delayed tenfold more than they needlessly tried to delay me.

And... it's less illegal than communicating in various levels of criminal damage

ThEGr33k
18-10-10, 01:07 PM
I do wonder sometimes what the reaction would be if you turned the engine off put the side stand off and got off. Wonder what tune they might try then. Swift helmet to face might make them a little more easy to get along with.

I generally dont get much abuse, though on occasion ill get some sort of gesture, if I get chance I wave back and smile... See them turn to red! :D

yorkie_chris
18-10-10, 01:10 PM
I do wonder sometimes what the reaction would be if you turned the engine off put the side stand off and got off. Wonder what tune they might try then. Swift helmet to face might make them a little more easy to get along with.

I generally dont get much abuse, though on occasion ill get some sort of gesture, if I get chance I wave back and smile... See them turn to red! :D

Probably give you a cuddle and a pat on the head ;)

ThEGr33k
18-10-10, 01:13 PM
Probably give you a cuddle and a pat on the head ;)


I was bracing myself for that tbh. Your probably right :rolleyes:

Milky Bar Kid
18-10-10, 06:18 PM
If it makes you smile, go ahead! Every post on here at the moment is a smiler! In a sort of "it relieves the boredom" type of way.

I may go and design something cool to bolt to my bike instead...like an anti ba....oh, not going there again! That is so last thread!

Oh yeah, and you are not bitter at all, are you?:rolleyes:

Anyway, I had a guy try to block me, it was a line of traffic on an A road outside Ayr, which is a decent sized town, and they were travelling about 20mph cos of a tractor (grrr) and my mate and I were filtering past slowly, I saw an artic coming towards me so went to go into the next gap and this twonk of a boy racer saw me, moved over and slammed his brakes on and blocked me. Thankfully, I anticipated it but he got a gesture as I went passed later!

-Ralph-
18-10-10, 07:23 PM
If it makes you smile, go ahead! Every post on here at the moment is a smiler! In a sort of "it relieves the boredom" type of way.!

At least true intentions have been shown.

Everyone DNFTT!

He's now on my ignore list, I suggest if you can't be ar$ed with him that you do the same.

I do wonder sometimes what the reaction would be if you turned the engine off put the side stand off and got off. Wonder what tune they might try then. Swift helmet to face might make them a little more easy to get along with.

See my post pages back about the truck drivers who were blocking what they perceived to be Q jumpers. I've done it twice, once during roadworks on the Edinburgh city bypass, and once at the north end of the A725 at Bellshill where it used to go down to one lane. On one occasion (Bellshill) the driver mouthed off, but stayed firmly sat in his cab when invited to get out, and the second occasion the guy just sat there and kept quiet.