Tyre Warming?

[hongman]

So I've noticed a fair few people I ride with regularly weave from side to side for a couple hundred yards to "warm their tyres up".

I'm going to take an educated guess here and say that it'll take a hell of a lot more than that to make any noticeable difference, right?

Or is there something else I'm not getting?:confused:

[-Ralph-]

So I've noticed a fair few people I ride with regularly weave from side to side for a couple hundred yards to "warm their tyres up".

I'm going to take an educated guess here and say that it'll take a hell of a lot more than that to make any noticeable difference, right?

Or is there something else I'm not getting?:confused:

Most riders weave from side to side out of boredom. No idea how much difference weaving will make to heat in the tyres, but do these guys think they are Rossi doing a Motogp? They'll be sticking tyre warmers on in the garage before they go out next.

Maybe you need to find somebody else to ride with.

[hongman]

lol, how silly I must have sounded.

They're good people, just slightly misinformed ;)

[beabert]

I do it out of boredom too.

[rowdy]

I do it sometimes, not to generate heat but to stop the tyre from squaring off. I'm a tightar*e like that :).

[carty]

I do it quite often. It gives me a warm pleasant feeling that my tyres are red hot when I enter the next corner.

I heard of someone who crashed while doing it and busted up a brand new blade. He must have felt silly.

[Reeder]

Each to their own.
If it gives them that little more reassurance that their tyres are warmer, then let them do it. Although some car drivers don't approve of it. I will occasionally do it knowing that it will make hardly any difference, but it still makes me feel better before I go round some twisties.

[Milky Bar Kid]

lol, how silly I must have sounded.

They're good people, just slightly misinformed ;)

Are these the same ones who taught you how to wheelie on a public road?:rolleyes:

[hongman]

I guess if its a placebo thing, no harm done, each to their own etc.

And yes, MBK. Although your post sounds kind of patronizing. I promise I'm not a hooligan :)

[Reeder]

And yes, MBK. Although your post sounds kind of patronizing. I promise I'm not a hooligan :)

Why not? It's fun.

[robh539]

I do it from boredom only, I'm rocking side to side now as I am bored at work ;)

[Mr Speirs]

I do it, but not to warm my tyres up but it just makes me feel more comfortable/familiar with the bike before I have a hoon.

Oh an Hong.
Being a hooligan is awesome fun!! Don't let anyone tell you otherwise!! :)

[benji106]

yeah same, just get that added reassurance that you do have the grip there, plus do it out of boredom as well.

[hongman]

;)

I do like a hoon, but I AM still a new rider, do I tend to back off as soon as I feel out of my comfort zone. Especially today, roundabouts are only damp but feels like they have slick all over them!

I just feel like people are too quick to judge me/my mates through what I say on here. Given people will always form their own opinions but feeling patronized is never nice eh.

Not a fan of the nanny state, we are all adults, and we can make our own decisions on what is safe/dangerous/right/wrong/etc.

Tally ho.

[Mr Speirs]

Totally agree with you. Unfortunately some people believe their own opinions are gospel rather than a subjective statement. Don't dwell on it though. I'm sure there are better riders out there but there sure are are some worse ones.

[hongman]

Thanks Mr Speirs.

I like to think I dont care what people who dont know me think about me, but truth is, it does bug me :D

[Reeder]

I personally think you seem like a good bloke hongman.
I don't think you're a hooligan at all after reading your wheelie thread. You weren't endangering anyone else so just have fun and make sure you don't get caught :)

[hongman]

Thanks reeder :)

5 ish years on the road total, only 3 points, which come off the license later this year.

Not doing too badly :D Jinx...

[Reeder]

5 years on the road and 12 points on my license with 9 that count.
I'm not a complete tw*t though.... honest.

[hongman]

rofl.

Hooligan.

[benji106]

6 years on the road and no points on my license :cool:


The TT99 took them all off :oops:

[Paul the 6th]

Roses are read, violets are blue, I weave my bike from side to side because I'm schizophrenic, and so am I.

Pretty sure I saw a guy on a gsx-r 1000 once start weaving without checking his blindspot and he nearly knocked his mate on an r6 off... Prolly not the best idea to do it when approaching traffic lights. In town. At night.

[hongman]

:D

[Paul the 6th]

;)

I just feel like people are too quick to judge me/my mates through what I say on here. Given people will always form their own opinions but feeling patronized is never nice eh.

Tally ho.

Totally agree with you. Unfortunately some people believe their own opinions are gospel rather than a subjective statement.

Yep, if this sort of stuff easily winds you up, stay away from visordown, gixerjunkies, any ninja forums and the aprilia forums.. Oh and any forums where the subject of discussion is about "how this guy had his front wheel in the air, his kneedown AT THE SAME TIME but I've nearly died more times than he nearly died so technically I'm allowed to call him nasty names and refer to the police as nobs because I'm clearly capable of riding at 130mph safely 'cos I've been riding bikes since I was a foetus, so they shouldn't have given me 6 points and a big fine.."

Ah I feel better for that... the jist of it is that there's some properly crap forums with properly crap people on there. Don't take any of them too seriously buddy.

[Reeder]

the jist of it is that there's some properly crap forums with properly crap people on there. Don't take any of them too seriously buddy.

Nor the comments from those quick to judge you on here.

[Paul the 6th]

Nor the comments from those quick to judge you on here.

shut up you friggin noob. Who the hell do you think you are? ;)

[Reeder]

shut up you friggin noob. Who the hell do you think you are? ;)

I don't think I am anyone, and have been reminded of this on numerous occasions.

[Geodude]

I always weave when i first set off because i was also informed/misinformed by seasoned biker friends that it was a good idea to get the heat into the tyres quickly, so its not just you hongman.

[hongman]

Heh, it doesnt wind me up per se, its not like I lose sleep over it, but I'd be lying if I said it didnt bug me at all!

Besides, that is just one very minor detail to an otherwise fantastic forum. That's why I can still see me being here even after I buy myself a Honda....

Such is life on a public forum

[hongman]

I always weave when i first set off because i was also informed/misinformed by seasoned biker friends that it was a good idea to get the heat into the tyres quickly, so its not just you hongman.

I never really belieived it made a difference, I was just checking that there wasnt some other reason I had overlooked.

Well it probably DOES make a difference, just not from the 100 yards they do it for ;)

[rowdy]

I never really belieived it made a difference, I was just checking that there wasnt some other reason I had overlooked.

Well it probably DOES make a difference, just not from the 100 yards they do it for ;)
No, it won't make any difference.
MotoGP riders and the like will do it, but then they have a lap which is about 2 miles to do it to generate heat, and their tyres are a much softer compound.
Anywho, I did hear once that quickly accelerating and braking generates more heat in the tyres than weaving does.

Oh, and take no notice of the fun police ;)

[benji106]

Well it must make some difference if the racers do it, just whether it actually makes any noticeable difference on the road.

Edit - What he said ^

[Milky Bar Kid]

Man! It was a joke! Chill out!

[-Ralph-]

Heh, it doesnt wind me up per se, its not like I lose sleep over it, but I'd be lying if I said it didnt bug me at all!

Besides, that is just one very minor detail to an otherwise fantastic forum. That's why I can still see me being here even after I buy myself a Honda....

Such is life on a public forum

Bugged by the forum? Buying a Honda? You need to grow a pair good man ;)

[hongman]

Man! It was a joke! Chill out!

Perhaps the wrong use of smiley then :confused:

Or maybe its my time of the month ;)

[Milky Bar Kid]

Perhaps the wrong use of smiley then :confused:

Or maybe its my time of the month ;)

Nope, I used the correct smilie!!!:smt019

[Holdup]

***Contains 1 swear word btw***

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Bad quality but this thread reminds me of that




















Yea ive done the weaving as well 8-[

[Milky Bar Kid]

HU, that is quality!

[hongman]

Warmin up me shoes LOL

[barwel1992]

i do it all the time, because its fun behind slow trafic, and gives more room as the car behind usually drop's back probs because he thinks im pi$$ed :lol:

[hongman]

Ok then here's one for you all.

All other things being equal, how much extra grip (guesstimate %) would you say X tyres give cold vs warm vs hot (optimum temp)?

Or is that too open ended a question?

[barwel1992]

dependant on tire, like slick's have next to no grip when cold but when hot stick like sh*t but road tires grip well (ish) when cold and ok to good when hot

[MattCollins]

It makes a difference. I ran the SV on bias ply ME880s (nobody's first choice except mine) which would stick well at road temperatures above 30C. At road temperatures down around 15C (they rarely get colder here) I'd have to lower the pressures a fair bit and bring them to a low-ish working pressure through heating to get them to offer reasonable grip. The low-ish working pressure is required to keep them at temp even if it made the bike is mushy to start and a bit squirmy at temperature - squirmy doesn't bother me too much coming off more dirt orientated bikes. The lower pressures also increase the size of the tyres footprint. Mostly, when the road starts to get cold and greasy the priority is staying upright and not so much tack sharp handling/feel.

For those keen to find out what is best for them, it is easy enough to set up with a couple of thermometers (one IR for tyre and road temperatures) and an accurate pressure gauge to find out what works and what doesn't over a range of road conditions.

[hongman]

I havent checked my pressures in over 3 months, best get to it...