absoultely random stupid question - how far can you push a dealer?

[Paul the 6th]

Scenario: There's 2 KTM Adventure 950's in a dealers showroom.

1. 2004 Adventure 950 in orange.
39,500 miles, no service history, test ride proves it runs sweet as, needs new brake pads and fresh brake fluid. Bodywork is in great condition.

2. 2005 Adventure in silver.
19,000 miles, comprehensive service history, been stood for 2 months, consumeables look ok. Heated grips, gel seat and engine bars fitted... One or two minor marks on bodywork and it's a few hundred quid more than the orange one.


The silver one is the one to buy - it's got paperwork to prove it's been looked after and it's half the miles...... But you want an orange ktm, not a silver one. Do you reckon the dealer would be interested in swapping the bodywork over or would they tell me to stop being so bloody stupid?

[SUPERSTARDJ01]

I think the answer would be a big fat NO, or get Dominic Littlewood on the case.

[sv4me]

The latter,stop being so bloody stupid ;) it wouldn't match what's on the V5 form either so doubt they'd agree to it

I love Rictus' KTM and that's not orange :)

[missyburd]

Stop being a poooof, you're supposed to be riding the bike, not drooling over the colour :-P

[Paul the 6th]

I keep getting the thought "well if I'm going to buy a silver bike I may as well just buy a stupid honda"....

not sure where that's coming from but it's a depressing way to see the world. Buying a silver KTM would be like buying a bright green R1, or a blue ducati.. it just won't work.

[Paul the 6th]

Stop being a poooof, you're supposed to be riding the bike, not drooling over the colour :-P


Hiya Maria,

just incase you're not 100% about these things, ktm's signature colour is orange. Hope this helps :razz:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KTM

[missyburd]

Well aware of that Paul, but I know I've never seen a silver KTM, are they more unusual? In which case that would be a selling point for me. Also silver would go well with orange accessories if you really wanted to be a tart about it :-D

Anyway, thought you adored your SRAD?

[SV650Racer]

Its always worth an ask!. Some may, some may not. It would take a fair bit of labour to do, but not impossible. The colour can be changed on the V5 no problem.

[Paul the 6th]

Well aware of that Paul, but I know I've never seen a silver KTM, are they more unusual? In which case that would be a selling point for me. Also silver would go well with orange accessories if you really wanted to be a tart about it :-D

Anyway, thought you adored your SRAD?

Silver and orange? You're sick maria.

I do adore the SRAD but after doing this.....
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_c5nU_S1VtbY/TMFcrhCIWMI/AAAAAAAAECI/UQQVgTQNxvU/s800/041010_1919.jpg

this....
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_c5nU_S1VtbY/TMFcqzWBuFI/AAAAAAAAECE/XQ0FxAtvbYw/s800/041010_1730.jpg

and finally this
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_c5nU_S1VtbY/TMFcqCp2VlI/AAAAAAAAECA/PlDckds9_mQ/s800/041010_1459.jpg


I've found myself progressively riding more and more like an absolute nob on the roads in an attempt to find the buzz I used to get before I went on track. If I keep it up I'm gonna end up in lots of trouble or lots of pain, and I really don't wanna be that idiot who crashed his srad into a tractor on the north york moors..

Also, big adventure bike can get the missus on the back without making the bike handle like a stock sv, and with alot more comfort :)

so the dealer is gonna tell me to swivel I guess :(

[dizzyblonde]

Them trailie KTMs are sooo last year!

Don't you know TLW wants to go ZZR14 for touring?

[Paul the 6th]

is he selling his 'S'?

[AndyBrad]

hows about a sprint st :) makes perfect sense

[dizzyblonde]

is he selling his 'S'?

Dunnoo, he was lusting after a zzr last month, thread in IB somewhere

hows about a sprint st :) makes perfect sense

This ones nice, its where Smudge bought his S4 from

http://atsearch.autotrader.co.uk/www/bikes_popup.jsp?did=124937&pageid=2&originalid=&gid=nogroup&tid=40&start=4&distance=0&adcategory=bikes&channel=DEALERPAGE&id=201043371425984

[Paul the 6th]

bleurgh I knew I shouldn't have said anything about the ktm yew guys!

there's something about the orange which makes it look more rugged and mean than the subtle silver..

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_c5nU_S1VtbY/TMgpuMPR_LI/AAAAAAAAEHw/lQ2KoDQR9bY/s720/photo.JPG

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_c5nU_S1VtbY/TMgpSs12zYI/AAAAAAAAEHg/HhItaEOOT2g/s720/photo.JPG

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_c5nU_S1VtbY/TMgqL-NOPiI/AAAAAAAAEIg/O5gR1z1S4Z4/s720/photo.JPG

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_c5nU_S1VtbY/TMgqCTdUZnI/AAAAAAAAEIQ/iYQqLNsv6Po/s720/photo.JPG

[dizzyblonde]

no good for the missus, seat like an iron bar

[Paul the 6th]

no good for the missus, seat like an iron bar

Never been pillion on one but if you get a Renazco seat you and your pillion will love it, plenty of people do long trips with pillions and no complaints from them...

:smt019

see also, this thread on advrider :) http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=495239

[Amplimator]

I keep getting the thought "well if I'm going to buy a silver bike I may as well just buy a stupid honda"....

not sure where that's coming from but it's a depressing way to see the world. Buying a silver KTM would be like buying a bright green R1, or a blue ducati.. it just won't work.

I bought a black KTM. ;)

In all honesty if you really have set your heart on an orange ADV then keep looking till you find a suitable one. They do come up, patience is the key. Its not like they are the only 2 in the country right? Also a bike like that you could ride it home where ever you get it from. Try not to pressure yourself into THAT one, its a lot of cash and personally id rather do it right.

This is just one example (http://www.ktmforum.co.uk/bikes-bits-sale/62699-05-950-adventure-sale.html), fully blinged with everything you need with room for a bit of a haggle. If you hover your cursor over the link it even that turns orange! :p

[dizzyblonde]

yeah, if you buy another seat.







large wooden spoon...Paul getting winded up so he is

[Paul the 6th]

I bought a black KTM. ;)

In all honesty if you really have set your heart on an orange ADV then keep looking till you find a suitable one. They do come up, patience is the key. Its not like they are the only 2 in the country right? Also a bike like that you could ride it home where ever you get it from. Try not to pressure yourself into THAT one, its a lot of cash and personally id rather do it right.

This is just one example (http://www.ktmforum.co.uk/bikes-bits-sale/62699-05-950-adventure-sale.html), fully blinged with everything you need with room for a bit of a haggle. If you hover your cursor over the link it even that turns orange! :p

Already been ping'd about that one by one of the guys from the ktm forum. Think that's the main thing Amp, at the price the dealer has dropped to, the silver bike is the one to have - but I'll forever be looking at the orange ones thinking "Blimey they don't half look saucy in orange!"... It's easy to let your heart jump into your mouth after a test ride and sign on the dotted line without really thinking what you're doing but I'm taking my time :)

yeah, if you buy another seat.







large wooden spoon...Paul getting winded up so he is


http://www.monster-munch.com/images/DomoNationDotCom.jpg

[AndyBrad]

developer?

:)

get the orange, your like me a fussy bar steward and you wont be happy with the silver one. plus youll look ghey!

[Amplimator]

Yer but 40k on the clock? I know its not really that high for a bike designed to tour but no service history for that amount of miles? Fook that. Get an orange one. But find one that is the best all round compramise.

[Paul the 6th]

one with 25k has just popped it's head up with F-KTM-SH and it's less than 200 miles away! Yahoo!

[Owenski]

pics dont do it justice tbf, the silver one looks much nicer in the flesh.. not that bikes have flesh but you know what I mean.

[dyzio]

pics dont do it justice tbf, the silver one looks much nicer in the flesh.. not that bikes have flesh but you know what I mean.

To be honest, from the pictures Paul posted here, I prefer the silver one :smt104

[Roberrrrt]

IMO, that silver is FUGLYYYYYYYYYYY!

[Paul the 6th]

weeey backup! Cheers rob :)

Just realised how fat my hands look in this pic... time to get to the gym
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_c5nU_S1VtbY/TMgpSs12zYI/AAAAAAAAEHg/HhItaEOOT2g/s720/photo.JPG

[Daimo]

Stop being a poooof, you're supposed to be riding the bike, not drooling over the colour :-P


Rubbish, you've not seen how deep my paintwork is then ;)

Bikes gotta tick all the boxes. Looks is one of them.

In regards to the poster, I very much doubt it. BUT, if you don't at least ask, you don't get. Not hard to fillout a few forms to send off to the DVLA. But I very much doubt it.

Anyway, you could always buy the silver one, and source some panels after? Im sure they come up on egay and such, or on the KTM forums.

[the_lone_wolf]

Sorry Paul, silver is gayer than bumming a bloke while your mate watches - not suitable for a KTM, more a BMW thing if you're into leather and kinky whips, you get the idea...;)

Stick it out and look for an orange one if you want that colour, they're not that rare yet...:cool:

Them trailie KTMs are sooo last year!

Don't you know TLW wants to go ZZR14 for touring?
Tempted, but I'm going to wait and see what the new year brings...;)

[Paul the 6th]

I've seen a full set of bodywork for a 950 's' on ebay in same colour as yours wolfie... £900!!!

You know how I know you're gay? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tU0xkgCRFAw)You have a bumper sticker on your ktm with a rainbow which says "I love it when balls are in my face."

And yesh, silver is gayer than humous, rose and creme brulee in a gay bar drinking woo woo whilst discussing leather or latex. Independent adventure man orange for me please :)

[dyzio]

Been drinking rosy wine again Paul? ;)


Noticed the add, I though you'll be keeping the srad for the track. This place will need a ktm section as well soon :)

[the_lone_wolf]

I've seen a full set of bodywork for a 950 's' on ebay in same colour as yours wolfie... £900!!!

Sounds about right once you start to add up the bits you'll need. The fuel tanks are likely to be the most expensive parts by far as they're plastic, different kettle of fish compared to metal tanks...

[Paul the 6th]

Been drinking rosy wine again Paul? ;)


Noticed the add, I though you'll be keeping the srad for the track. This place will need a ktm section as well soon :)

Unfortunately not mate, moved onto vodka and diet lemonade now - no hangovers :razz: I can't afford to keep it and have another bike, and I don't want to have to spend £99-£149 everytime I want to have some fun on track. I've proved to myself that I can get my kneedown and look fast on photographs, so now I'm gonna get my head down and do some proper riding :D

Sounds about right once you start to add up the bits you'll need. The fuel tanks are likely to be the most expensive parts by far as they're plastic, different kettle of fish compared to metal tanks...

apart from plastic tank and bodywork colours, and 35mm higher seat, do most of the accessories still just bolt straight on? or are there any significantly different dimensions on things like the subframe? gonna be looking for panniers and topbox, akra exhausts and a few other bits but that'll be next year :D

[Daimo]

Get on the KTM forum and you might find someone who's willing to do a swap?

[the_lone_wolf]

apart from plastic tank and bodywork colours, and 35mm higher seat, do most of the accessories still just bolt straight on? or are there any significantly different dimensions on things like the subframe? gonna be looking for panniers and topbox, akra exhausts and a few other bits but that'll be next year :D

Plastic tanks are universal within 950 and 990 series regardless off age or "S" - 990 tank has internal fuel pump so different to 950

Seat heights varied with year but all the S models are ~2" taller than the non-S of the same year

AFAIK pretty much any accessory will fit most if not all bikes, little things like the speedo pickup are different on the newer S models as the ABS bikes use the ABS sensor to measure, but things like panniers and exhausts are pretty universal

[kaivalagi]

Thought you might like this, a KTM adventure being used properly, just caught this vid today :)
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One orange and one silver KTM too...alright so not the 950 but...

Makes we want to splash out and go to Canada for a motorbike escapade!

[Paul the 6th]

what's wrong with that guy's accent? Is he ok?

the 640's look like a good laugh if you're thinking of going proper off-roading on the regular. I'm a bit of a poof so I'll just be bimbling around and occaisionally nipping into fields to pretend that I'm doing the dakar

[kaivalagi]

what's wrong with that guy's accent? Is he ok?

the 640's look like a good laugh if you're thinking of going proper off-roading on the regular. I'm a bit of a poof so I'll just be bimbling around and occaisionally nipping into fields to pretend that I'm doing the dakar

He's Canadian....in all seriousness I think his accent is a bit rural, the only time I've come across accents like that in Canada is when I was in more remote areas..the "aboot" instead of "about" etc are more pronounced...

Anyway, I would be like you, as long as it gets mucky from time to time I'd be happy, it doesn't have to be riding trails where wheels get buckled :) A quick blast over bumps would be good enough!

I must confess seeing all this talk about supermoto and adventure bikes I am seeing has got me steering in a different direction for the next bike...but the obligatory demo rides will tell me what I want (min' 1 year away yet, I only just bought an SV :lol:)...

[Dave20046]

I'd definitely atleast ask.
It gets them sale...

[the_lone_wolf]

I'm a bit of a poof so I'll just be bimbling around and occaisionally nipping into fields to pretend that I'm doing the dakar

Grow a pair and do Morocco mate, seriously...... No need to be Cyril Despres or anything to have a great time...

Oh, and if you want to see someone who can handle the 950, check this innit?

oVGry7-gZkg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVGry7-gZkg

[kaivalagi]

Give me some of that, a few weeks at the gym first though I reckon!

And if you do it wrong, do it like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrOD9TCWA9A
And not like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4im_efFY6c&NR=1

[dyzio]

or this:

http://www.youtube.com/user/adventurewolf#p/a/f/0/bxM9kKTki3M



:twisted:

[kaivalagi]

Anyone on here by any chance? Note to self: never do that riding through muddy puddle thing!

[missyburd]

Actually Paul, being all serious and everything...if you go in there with a posh suit and a briefcase i.e. giving off the impression you're loaded...maybe they'd be more inclined to go through with your request? :-D

[Paul the 6th]

Already been in for test ride unfortunately Maria, took some humour with me to offer as a gift but he called me a paedo & asked me to leave :)

[the_lone_wolf]

or this:

http://www.youtube.com/user/adventurewolf#p/a/f/0/bxM9kKTki3M

Anyone on here by any chance?

Y'all gonna get a slap in a minute...:twisted:




And anyway, I nailed it the second time...;)

[arenalife]

Have you considered that the Silver one is a good deal cos it's....silver. If it were desirable orange the price would be whacked up and prob wouldn't even be there. Can't seem him making the mechanically undesirable bike even less so!

[barwel1992]

depends how good his/her balance is.... obviously

[Specialone]

Y'all gonna get a slap in a minute...:twisted:




And anyway, I nailed it the second time...;)
Did you post that vid up last year mate, ive seen that before?

[Reeder]

or this:

http://www.youtube.com/user/adventurewolf#p/a/f/0/bxM9kKTki3M



:twisted:


Lmao, the bow at the end is so graceful :)

[the_lone_wolf]

Did you post that vid up last year mate, ive seen that before?
Yeah, round about September time IIRC, that's when I did my first Thetford run;)

[Bluefish]

remember how at the ar he was telling everybody to stand up on the pegs, something about more control, lol