Shock News - Biker on Top Gear

[MR UKI (1)]

Should be good to watch!

http://www.britishsuperbike.com/news/evo-champion-brogan-to-become-the-new-stig.aspx

[punyXpress]

Can't think James May is the quickest Atom hot-shoe.

[the_lone_wolf]

Can't think James May is the quickest Atom hot-shoe.

You could put Mr Blobby in a V8 Atom and I'd wager it'll destroy an S1000 on the track in everything save for perhaps a straight line drag race...

[andrewsmith]

haha it comes full circle too!!!

The atom V8 uses busa heads, cylinders and toughened pistons built by a USA firm

but holeshot racing (http://www.holeshot-racing.co.uk/) are even more mental :D

[mister c]

Apparently the Atom won, so my son tells me. They did want to use the Evo Bee em, but the BBC said no, wonder why? lol

[Paul the 6th]

I'm all for the car vs. bike thing but the fact 95% of the time the bike will trounce the car on anything with decent straights and long sweeping corners just means the producers of car programmes and editors of car magazines just reach for the ariel atom each time the challenge comes up.

It's entertaining enough but they can only replay the same 'generic litre sportsbike vs. ariel atom = cars are better' x amount of times before everyone gets bored.

[sauluk]

Aye, I wouldn't even call the Atom a 'car'

[Bluefish]

can't say i've seen many atom's on the roads round here ;)

[Paul the 6th]

I saw the one on top gear on boxing day 2003, then in october 2004 at ferrybridge services 2 pulled up at once :)

since then I've probably seen about 3 on the road and 4 at car shows.

How about car vs. bike with something like a £5k cap? used or new - my mate just sold an audi s4 which had had thousands spent on it and was apparently pushing around 550 horses (4 wheel drive in a saloon body) with rs6 brakes, rs4 clutch, bigger turbo, better internals etc...

When he first started telling me about it I was giving it "oh right, yeah it sounds fast, nice one buddy" - FOOK ME.. THE FASTEST CAR I'VE BEEN IN.

Only problem with it was the reliability issues as every other week it was "sucking up boost" or "running rough" or "needed some attention to the clutch" etc. Apart from that it incredible & only a 2003 reg iirc. He sold it for £6k to a mate and I reckon it'd probably d!ck quite a few sportsbikes tbh.

[G]

Its always an interesting debate Car v's Bike.

The main points....

- Any idiot can drive a car fast, there are that many driving aids nowdays. Where as it takes a fair bit of skill to ride a bike quickly.
- Car times around UK tracks are always faster than bike times, fact!.
- A car has 4 big rubber contact patches to corner quicker and can also stop quicker. Most just can't accelerate like a bike.

The fact is a bike is very quick in a straight line, but in most circumstance a well driven car will be quicker than a well ridden bike... and a ok driver in a quick car will beat most normal riders.

[Tim in Belgium]

5k car vs 5k bike round the 'Ring would be fun!

I know what my odds would be on.....

[andrewsmith]

Tim 5k car new or used :lol:

used it would be one of these :D
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201045372488539/sort/priceasc/usedcars/engine-size-cars/2l_to_2-5l/price-to/5000/transmission/manual/make/westfield/radius/1501/page/1/postcode/ne158rr?logcode=p

[Viney]

How about car vs. bike with something like a £5k cap? used or new - my mate just sold an audi s4 which had had thousands spent on it and was apparently pushing around 550 horses (4 wheel drive in a saloon body) with rs6 brakes, rs4 clutch, bigger turbo, better internals etc...

When he first started telling me about it I was giving it "oh right, yeah it sounds fast, nice one buddy" - FOOK ME.. THE FASTEST CAR I'VE BEEN IN.<Pedant mode on> Unless it was an old S4, it owuldnt have had a turbo in the 1st place. The v6 one used to run a turbo, but the new S4's are normaly aspirated (4.2v8) and it was a V6, then it couldnt have had an RS4 clutch <pedant mode off> *Goes n hides*

Im off down to Dunsfold track this weekend funny enough :o)

[Tim in Belgium]

^ Easy for a bike to beat a cheap pinto westie at the Ring!

A good one or R caterham may be a slightly different matter, but they cost more than 5k.

[andrewsmith]

^ Easy for a bike to beat a cheap pinto westie at the Ring!

A good one or R caterham may be a slightly different matter, but they cost more than 5k.

haha Time know any one with a Caterham?
I'll bring a £1,500 bike

[Paul the 6th]

it was the 2.7(?) v6 one - I'll see if I can find the spec list for it on the SRS forums. Not saying it came with an rs4 clutch but it had some kind of rs4 clutch trickery to it (the rs4 clutch springs with uprated plates? it's all a little bit beyond me tbh).

Honestly, it's the one car I looked at and thought "hmmm it's a load of hype" - the fastest car I've ever been in I swear, I've driven a rally spec evo (old one) on a driving day and that was rapid but this s4 is out of this world. I'll see if we can get hold of it to do a video (and then go to prison for it lol).. :razz:

[yorkie_chris]

He sold it for £6k to a mate and I reckon it'd probably d!ck quite a few sportsbikes tbh.

Go buy a GSXR1100 for a grand. Spend £500 putting a bodgerama blow-through turbo on it and maybe (big maybe) a longer swingarm.

Hello 300bhp. Bye bye car!

Spend £6k on that sort of tackle, strengthened engine parts, maybe water injection or a sniff of gas... there won't be a car out there to go anywhere near it in terms of acceleration.

[andrewsmith]

Go buy a GSXR1100 for a grand. Spend £500 putting a bodgerama blow-through turbo on it and maybe (big maybe) a longer swingarm.

Hello 300bhp. Bye bye car!

Spend £6k on that sort of tackle, strengthened engine parts, maybe water injection or a sniff of gas... there won't be a car out there to go anywhere near it in terms of acceleration.

Is that the next project Chris?

[Lozzo]

If anyone's interested in a bloody fast car for £5K, a mate of mine is selling his 1998 BMW Alpina B10 V8 (a very heavily upgraded 5 series for those who don't know). It's fast... stupidly fast, it handles and stops like a sports car, yet feels like a gentelman's club inside with leather and walnut trimmings. Previously owned by Frank Sytner himself as his company car, it's got the highest available spec you could have on that model. I dare say it would show many litrebikes the way round some twisty A roads

[yorkie_chris]

Is that the next project Chris?

No, not my cup of tea TBH. You would never see any of the power except on a massively long straight, then you'd get banned.

I think my next project will be to build something very weird.

[andrewsmith]

attractive busa? :mrgreen:

[SVMAT]

On fith year a few years back they raced a ducati against a porche and the Bike one. It all depends on the track really, and plus when you get to supercars those fukers have downforce, hence the increased cornering speeds. I went to the ring last year expecting all cars to be overtaking me in the bends but it was the complete oposite, because the ring is so wide bikes can take such better lines curb to curb and the straights are huge to.