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Errrrrrr. Sorry for the stupidity but what is this? It is cable tied to the rear brake hose. Part of the bike or alarm or any other suggestions please.
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Cymraeg_Atodeg
07-11-10, 12:35 PM
Looks like a mechanic diagnostic connection point to me...
the_lone_wolf
07-11-10, 12:36 PM
Not enough pins for a diagnostic I'd have thought? And they tend not to have retaining clips?
Possibly a DIY battery charger connection? Have you got a multimeter? Slap it across the terminals and see if you get a voltage
andrewsmith
07-11-10, 12:41 PM
looks like a charging tail. most people put them under the rear seat
Cymraeg_Atodeg
07-11-10, 12:42 PM
Not thick enough cables for the battery charger.
This is a curvey, so, there isn't much info coming the ECU...
Does kind of look like an information junction to me, like for the speedo etc, but, 650's use cables for that... Quite a mystery
Cymraeg_Atodeg
07-11-10, 12:45 PM
Having a look around some threads, has your reg/rec been moved?
tigersaw
07-11-10, 12:45 PM
If its cable tied to the brake hose its not going to be standard, so its a previous owners mod. Is that an inline fuse just out of picture? Would guess it connects to the battery in that case
Cymraeg_Atodeg
07-11-10, 12:47 PM
If its cable tied to the brake hose its not going to be standard, so its a previous owners mod. Is that an inline fuse just out of picture? Would guess it connects to the battery in that case
You thinking heated clothing maybe?
the_lone_wolf
07-11-10, 12:50 PM
Not thick enough cables for the battery charger.
Battery can only be charged at <1.5A maximum - cable could easily handle that with plenty of room to spare
Happy to be proven wrong but I don't think the curvy has an ECU? CDI unit yes, but not an ECU like the EFI pointy?? There's none on the wiring diagram...
Cymraeg_Atodeg
07-11-10, 12:51 PM
Battery can only be charged at <1.5A maximum - cable could easily handle that with plenty of room to spare
Happy to be proven wrong but I don't think the curvy has an ECU? CDI unit yes, but not an ECU like the EFI pointy?? There's none on the wiring diagram...
I never looked over my curvey too much before I broke it...
But, the cable looks too exposed and too clean to be original equipment and an odd place to put it for a battery cable... IMO
the_lone_wolf
07-11-10, 12:55 PM
But, the cable looks too exposed and too clean to be original equipment and an odd place to put it for a battery cable... IMOOdd perhaps, but not as odd as if it were for heated clothing?
Even odder fitting a diagnostic adapter to a bike that has no ECU shirley??
Occam's razor and all that
Cymraeg_Atodeg
07-11-10, 01:03 PM
Odd perhaps, but not as odd as if it were for heated clothing?
Even odder fitting a diagnostic adapter to a bike that has no ECU shirley??
Occam's razor and all that
It seems odd to have the cable there at all it would seem, lol.
But, I am sure someone will know what it is really for...
DarrenSV650S
07-11-10, 01:08 PM
It could be an after-market plug fitted to the brake light switch cable, but could be anything really
Take the seat off and have a look where it goes
the_lone_wolf
07-11-10, 01:20 PM
It seems odd to have the cable there at all it would seem, lol.
This wouldn't rank very high on the "odd scale" compared to some wiring stuff I've seen...;)
......Possibly a DIY battery charger connection? Have you got a multimeter? Slap it across the terminals and see if you get a voltage
No power when the ignition is off, assuming that my multimeter prongs were thin enough to touch terminals in the the plug. Haven't tested it with the ignition on yet as it is under the cover so will try that tomorrow.
Having a look around some threads, has your reg/rec been moved?
I dont know. Not had the bike long and was going to have a good root around when I service it in the next couple of weeks.
If its cable tied to the brake hose its not going to be standard, so its a previous owners mod. Is that an inline fuse just out of picture? Would guess it connects to the battery in that case
No inline fuse that I can see but a very strange place to put something that maybe is powered when the ignition is on.
It could be an after-market plug fitted to the brake light switch cable, but could be anything really
Take the seat off and have a look where it goes
Experience has taught me never to mess when all the shops are shut on a Sunday afternoon. You cant go out and buy the things that broke.
This wouldn't rank very high on the "odd scale" compared to some wiring stuff I've seen...;)
Just weird that someone would put an aftermarket plug thingie here and not under the seat.
Thanks for the replies so far and if nobody knows before Saturday I will chase the wire back. The wires are black and black/white so standard aftermarket power and earth. The orange part is rubber so it seems to have some kind of waterproofing on that end.
jonny.boyd
07-11-10, 01:37 PM
I'm pretty sure it's a charge point for charging the battery. I had one of these fitted to my bike and they positioned it near enough in the same general location. No idea why that area, perhaps easy to get to, etc. I'd be fairly confident that this is what it is.
the_lone_wolf
07-11-10, 01:40 PM
No power when the ignition is off, assuming that my multimeter prongs were thin enough to touch terminals in the the plug. Haven't tested it with the ignition on yet as it is under the cover so will try that tomorrow.
Would be pointless having a battery charger that only connected when the ignition was on so if the reading is correct it won't be that...
Could be an accessory socket to plug stuff in...
Can you read any numbering or letters on the plug itself? may give a clue to what it is?
It seems to be a DT06-2S-Assy Plug Assembly Like here (http://www.deutschconnector.com/products/deutsch_dt_2-way_connectors.html). Assuming I get a reading when the ignition is on (I will check tomorrow) it may come in handy. At the moment it seems like it maybe for a heated right boot! I might be able to use it for a satnav or phone once tested and moved.
Geodude
08-11-10, 09:44 AM
You got this figured out yet? Have you tried asking previous owner what its for.
yorkie_chris
08-11-10, 04:14 PM
It is definitely not part of stock loom. Possibly some type of optimate connector or heated clothing hook up.
speedplay
08-11-10, 04:24 PM
Looks like a connector for the charger to me.
But odd how theres no power to it if the bikes turned off though.
Maybe for heated clothing etc?
yorkie_chris
08-11-10, 04:29 PM
You will probably have to follow it back and remove it when the alarm goes mental and needs removing... find out then :)
You got this figured out yet? Have you tried asking previous owner what its for.
It seems to be a DT06-2S-Assy Plug Assembly Like here (http://www.deutschconnector.com/products/deutsch_dt_2-way_connectors.html). Too wet and cold to check it today so the car had a rare trip to work. I will check it out Saturday and post were it goes to. The previous owner knew more about polish than electrics. 3000 ish miles in 5 years!!
Cheers for all the interest.
Sid Squid
08-11-10, 09:22 PM
Battery can only be charged at <1.5A maximum - cable could easily handle that with plenty of room to spare.True.
Happy to be proven wrong but I don't think the curvy has an ECU? CDI unit yes, but not an ECU like the EFI pointy?? There's none on the wiring diagram.
Curvy has ECU* as does Pointy, for Curvy ignition control only obviously, neither have CDI.
Cable is most likely charger to or power from battery, cable for both functions is connected and fused in the same manner.
* ECU = Electronic Control Unit, no distinction as to what it does. CDI = Capacitor Discharge Ignition, which very few engines use nowadays.
the_lone_wolf
08-11-10, 09:33 PM
* ECU = Electronic Control Unit, no distinction as to what it does. CDI = Capacitor Discharge Ignition, which very few engines use nowadays.
Semantics dude, semantics...;)
Nothing to attach a diagnostic tool to though?:p
yorkie_chris
08-11-10, 10:21 PM
Nothing to attach a diagnostic tool to though?:p
Yes it has
the_lone_wolf
08-11-10, 10:27 PM
Yes it has
Do pray tell...
I can see the fault finding now...
"Code E01 - Out of coal"
;)
sam anon
08-11-10, 10:49 PM
Maybe not such an idiotic question after all!
That said, I've no idea what it is, sorry!
yorkie_chris
09-11-10, 10:40 AM
Do pray tell...
I can see the fault finding now...
"Code E01 - Out of coal"
;)
Just you need a vacuum gauge and logic to find faults rather than hoping computermabob will do all the work for you ;)
If the bike's got an alarm it could be a hookup for door or window switches in a garage.
I personally think it's where the flux capacitor plugs in.
Owenski
09-11-10, 12:09 PM
its a curvy, it wont hit the 88mph needed lol.
Do pray tell...
I can see the fault finding now...
"Code E01 - Out of coal"
;)
Now that is very funny.
.....I personally think it's where the flux capacitor plugs in.
So can I convert it to power a Noz kit then ;)
its a curvy, it wont hit the 88mph needed lol.
Harsh. Very harsh! Still quicker than the SLR650 and twice as many cylinders.
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