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See here
http://ww1.honda.co.uk/motorcycles/2011/index.html
http://hondamc2011.com/
Hmmm, I like the SH300i the most out of all them!! Although the CBR125 looks better, the rest.....fugly.
I dont think it is a CBR 125 any more :( neither is the CBR250, should of called them both VFR's
Yep! Similar headlamps and fairings!!
Still, I think it looks quite nice.
Better than the smashed up 2004 one I have in my workshop anyway!! :-)
Might look better in the flesh, i kinda like the cross runner, dont think release dates have been mentioned yet but will find out soon enough, then work can get some demo's in then i can have a go :D
ThEGr33k
07-11-10, 03:46 PM
Disappointing again from Honda, man even their small bikes are now DULL! I mean in the early 80's they were making 250 V-twins with over 40BHP, now they make a 250 single that makes 26!? Sigh...
Disappointing again from Honda, man even their small bikes are now DULL! I mean in the early 80's they were making 250 V-twins with over 40BHP, now they make a 250 single that makes 26!? Sigh...
And the CBR250 has one main competitor and that is the Kawaski Ninja 250 and imo Kawasaki have got the right formula 250cc parallel twin producing 33 bhp
ThEGr33k
07-11-10, 03:53 PM
And the CBR250 has one main competitor and that is the Kawaski Ninja 250 and imo Kawasaki have got the right formula 250cc parallel twin producing 33 bhp
Certainly closer than Honda at least... Why is it that they aim all the small bikes at the younger or less exp rider? If they made a 40bhp bike with decent equipment I might be tempted to go for the smaller option. Especially as these days its all you need and can get away with. ha ha.
NOTE* The V-twins I speak of were actually 4 strokes so not comparing the 2 strokes which are obviously mad up on power...
I was looking at the Crossrunner, don't really go for trailie type things but it's got quite a few redeeming features but for touring it is a shame about the chain (no, don't start that debate again). Then lurking around in the videos is the Crosstourer, looks basically the same thing but with a shaft grafted on (and dual clutch trans from the VFR1200), but why oh why the spokey wheels? Nooooo.
It's not announced as a 2011 bike, but it's obviously coming soon. Hate to think what price it'll be though, especially with luggage! It fills that gap between the Deauville and the Pan, albeit somewhat different styling concept.
The crossrunner is basicly a VFR800 and the Crosstourer basicly a VFR1200, although the Crosstourer is only a concept at the moment, i believe the idea is for them to replace the Transalp and Varadero
kaivalagi
07-11-10, 04:38 PM
The Crossrunner seems more interesting than the rest of the bland 2011 designs, but I think the VFR800 is still the better option from Honda. Although if I was thinking of a crossrunner type bike that can do the adventure thing better I'd probably just go out and get a KTM Adventure or SMT or similar (on the cards)
andreis
07-11-10, 06:04 PM
It seems to me that Honda has lost touch with the market. They're still a reactionary company and not a strategic one (like in the past years). They simply react to what the other manufacturers are doing, not creating some new products themselves. While there is nothing wrong with replicating it as long as there are improvements, it is not ok to replicate without improvements. And for every product of biking interest they have, there is another company producing a better, cheaper one.
I really feel like they're missing a lot of opportunities and burying themselves deeper and deeper and deeper...
I agree and also think they've lost their way.
Just look at the glorious models we used to get:
RVF400
VFR SP1 and SP2
NSR400
VF1000R
They were special and are still lusted over now. They were know for legendary build quality and attention to detail.
Now it seems they are releasing bikes in every conceivable niche *except* the bikes we actually want.
They have designed a VFR1200 bucket of lard that no one wanted (and it could be argued is the biggest let down from the marketing side of things ever) and designed it to appeal to "Gentlemen of a certain age". They then transfer that questionable styling to the new CBR600F release which is a Hornet with a fairing (because they didn't have one of those in the range) and disasterously to the CBR125 which "Gentlemen of a certain age" have absolutely no interest in. However, teenagers do and the styling just doesn't cut it.
If you were 17 would you rather have this ugly duckling...
http://ww1.honda.co.uk/motorcycles/2011/galleria/CBR125R/9.jpg
or this...
http://uk.aprilia.com/assets/2542/rs125-replica-SBK-color_cropped_406x375.jpg
The thing is, Aprilia have also spoiled Honda's party with the bike that *everyone* wanted Honda to make which is a V4 Sports bike..
Sorry Honda, You (quite unbeliveably) missed the boat, and ironically launched one instead....
http://uk.aprilia.com/assets/2008/color-rsv4-factory-racing-black_cropped_406x375.jpg
http://ww1.honda.co.uk/mcStatic/en/picture/product/VFR1200F/full01.jpg
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yorkie_chris
07-11-10, 09:20 PM
Who needs a 2011 H*nda?
Buy the one taking up all the f***ing room in my garage instead! :)
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130452728226
Exactly
Aprilia have hit the nail on the head and the RS125 looks the mutts, there was nothing wrong with the styling of the old CBR125 Honda currently have no stock of CBR125's im led to believe because they sell so well and now there wont be any more till the 2011 model comes out
Bluefish
07-11-10, 09:26 PM
yeah they all look carp, the crossrunner being the better looking, still i'm not buying so no matter.
Jamesy D
07-11-10, 10:21 PM
Ew. All I can say. Ew.
Milky Bar Kid
08-11-10, 06:02 AM
Wow! Disappointed! What is with that new headlight on the CBR125?? It's rank! Noticed it on the CBR600F too and I think it is horrible.
My RR is much prettier.
elsie350
08-11-10, 06:24 AM
Sorry but they don't turn my props. Nothing like the NSR250R I used to have - now that was fun!
The cbr600f looks like a nice safe bike but the rest are pretty poo.
Honda seem to be going the way of peugeot at the end of the 90's... building boring safe vehicles. Peugeot lost the plot after the 205/106/306 years, they were fun awesome handling cars that looked good in their day, the 205 still is good looking. Honda are building boring fugly things that are the equivilant of the 307 and 407 now days.
ThEGr33k
10-11-10, 11:22 PM
The cbr600f looks like a nice safe bike but the rest are pretty poo.
Honda seem to be going the way of peugeot at the end of the 90's... building boring safe vehicles. Peugeot lost the plot after the 205/106/306 years, they were fun awesome handling cars that looked good in their day, the 205 still is good looking. Honda are building boring fugly things that are the equivilant of the 307 and 407 now days.
Agree completely. They just arnt adventurous like they were in the 80's in particular... Dull, is the best way to sum Honda up atm... :rolleyes:
arenalife
11-11-10, 10:22 AM
I think you're all being far too harsh they look fine to me.
Thing is the CBR600F isnt, if you look it has the same frame as the hornet and the crossrunner is a VFR800 with new platics, again compare them, it has the same frame
Dicky Ticker
11-11-10, 10:14 PM
Along with 2015 prices--------:(
Must be missing something as it hasn't been mentioned.. Where's the exciting bikes?? (600RR & 'blade) or they staying the same?
Staying the same, some nice new colour schemes though
http://motoroids.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/2011-Honda-CBR600RR-Slider.jpg
http://motoroids.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/2011-Honda-Fireblade-1.jpg
ThEGr33k
12-11-10, 10:08 AM
Must be missing something as it hasn't been mentioned.. Where's the exciting bikes??
Stopped making the SP2 and RC30 a while back didn't they?
DK why most are slagging them off - they are kinda mainstream but they will all be well put together and quiet ...too quiet !
The wierd thing is if you look at the CBR600 pix...the front calipers change from black Tokicos to gold something elses ....wTF - ???
That hornet is fugly. I hope the new models push down the price of the old ones though. wouldn't mind a lovely hornet :)
yorkie_chris
16-11-10, 05:37 PM
looks like a nice safe bike
Isn't that hondas all over...
DK why most are slagging them off - they are kinda mainstream but they will all be well put together and quiet ...too quiet !
The wierd thing is if you look at the CBR600 pix...the front calipers change from black Tokicos to gold something elses ....wTF - ???
CBR600RR and CBR1000RR have black calipers if they are a non ABS version and browny coloured calipers if they are an ABS model
Same with 600F black are 3 pot combined ABS and gold are 2 pot non ABS
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