dont you just love tires ........(rant)

[barwel1992]

had a new avon storm 2 ultra rear tire fitted about 2 weeks ago, done about 1k miles all was going swimmingly......

then yesterday i was getting a odd feeling from the rear end, i though it was the shock playing up so i carried on the other 30 miles or so to collage

got to collage looked over the rear end and then noticed i had a shiny bit on my tire about 1cm across and right on the edge of the tred so pressed on the tire and bugger its going down look more closely at the shiny bit ball$ its a bloody screw :smt071

so jacked the bike up took the wheel off and the tire, take the screw out (unscrewed it) and its a 1,1/2 inch long wood screw :smt092 got a tire bung plugged it then fuk cant get the bloody thing on, the tire machine keeps letting my wheel go as the air compressor is not pressuring the system well enough

so its all going tit's up, then the tire machine snags the tire because it keeps letting the rim go, so now i have damaged the beading as well, got me home at least at the max speed of 40mph and that was down the dual carriage way was not fun been passed my truck and lorries

all in all yesterday was utter cr&p so now i need to shell out another £130 for a tire and fitting, cant balance it at collage so might as well just get it fitted by my tire place

going to check the tire over when its removed and see if i could just use it on a dyno or something

RANT OVER :lol:

[Luckypants]

Shame you buggered the tyre on the machine at college, because you may well have been able to take advantage of Avon's puncture guarantee otherwise.

I suppose you might still be able to use the puncture guarantee if the place you bought the tyre from is willing to say the tyre was punctured and has not used up the first 1mm (IIRC) of tread. So you might not need to shell out for a new tyre after all.




PS You go to COLLEGE and the round black things on your wheels are TYRES. :D

[Reeder]

PS You go to COLLEGE and the round black things on your wheels are TYRES. :D


:smt106

[barwel1992]

Shame you buggered the tyre on the machine at college, because you may well have been able to take advantage of Avon's puncture guarantee otherwise.

I suppose you might still be able to use the puncture guarantee if the place you bought the tyre from is willing to say the tyre was punctured and has not used up the fiest 1mm (IIRC) of tread. So you might not need to shell out for a new tyre after all.




PS You go to COLLEGE and the round black things on your wheels are TYRES. :D

the damage is not major

suppose its worth a go, didn't know they had a puncture guarantee???

and no i go to collage and the round things on my wheels are tires :lol:

[JamesMio]

PS You go to COLLEGE and the round black things on your wheels are TYRES. :D

I think the lad's actually dyslexic..?

[Reeder]

I think the lad's actually dyslexic..?

Or stupid. Take your choice

[Bluepete]

I think the lad's actually dyslexic..?

So am I, so I know to check spellings...

Pete ;)

[Bluepete]

And at least your wheel didn't nearly fall off!

Pete ;)

[Reeder]

Neither did yours pete ;) None of your five bolts came out :D

[Luckypants]

suppose its worth a go, didn't know they had a puncture guarantee???

Avon guarantee you against a puncture for the first 1mm of wear on all motorcycle tyres. They have done for years, but don't advertise the fact these days. Some folks on here have successfully used it.

[Geodude]

Doh, bad luck Dan, its worth checking out that avon guarantee before you shell out on a new one.

[Paul the 6th]

Think there's an old chinese proverb in here somewhere?

Man who run behind bike get exhausted. Man who run in front of car get tyred.

[Jayneflakes]

I think the lad's actually dyslexic..?

I think that you are right.

Also, if your computer spell checker uses American English, tires will get through unchecked, but tyres gets the big red underline of doubt! :evil:

I was shocked yesterday to discover that school children in this day and age do not use a fountain pen for written work! It is a disgrace if you ask me! :smt103

[Reeder]

Fountain pens are messy! When I was at school a few years ago everyone used to stamp on the cartidges and spray ink everywhere, so they were banned.

[dyzio]

That's nothing, ManxMatt managed to puncture his tyre on the AR, got recovered, fitted a new tyre, rode back to the campsite and... punctured the new one.

Now that's :lol:

:)

[barwel1992]

That's nothing, ManxMatt managed to puncture his tyre on the AR, got recovered, fitted a new tyre, rode back to the campsite and... punctured the new one.

Now that's :lol:

:)

haha :D

going to give the company that fitted my tyres a call in a min and see what they say

[Pimp Cat]

Let us know how you get on speaking to the tyre company. I work for cooper tire, the company that took over avon tyres, (although we still use AVON as a brand name) If you dont have any joy i will make a call to a couple of guys that i know in the motorcycle dept and see what we can sort out. or at least get you all the correct info on the puncture guarantee.

Colin.

[barwel1992]

Let us know how you get on speaking to the tyre company. I work for cooper tire, the company that took over avon tyres, (although we still use AVON as a brand name) If you dont have any joy i will make a call to a couple of guys that i know in the motorcycle dept and see what we can sort out. or at least get you all the correct info on the puncture guarantee.

Colin.

cool thanks :)

the company i got the tire from are not named as a dealer on your site does this matter ?

thanks

[CheGuevara]

the round black things on your wheels are TYRES. :D


From Wiki:

Tire is the older spelling, but both were used in the 15th and 16th centuries (for a metal tire). Tire became the settled spelling in the 17th century but tyre was revived in the UK in the 19th century for rubber / pneumatic tyres, possibly because it was used in some patent documents, though many continued to use tire for the iron variety. The Times newspaper was still using tire as late as 1905.

Also:

The Oxford dictionary, the British standard, says tyre is a variant spelling of tire (implying that tire is the more etymologically correct spelling). Regarding the spelling, the dictionary’s entry under “Tire” says:
“From 15th to 17th c. spelt tire and tyre indifferently. Before 1700 tyre became generally obsolete, and tire remained the regular form, as it still does in America; but in Great Britain tyre has been revived as the popular term for the rubber rim of bicycle, tricycle, carriage, or motor car wheels, and is sometimes used for the steel tires of locomotive wheels.”

[dizzyblonde]

Avon guarantee you against a puncture for the first 1mm of wear on all motorcycle tyres. They have done for years, but don't advertise the fact these days. Some folks on here have successfully used it.


They do, as I used it when the VRap got a new Avon Ultra 'tyre' (only joshing barwel;) )

I got a whole 8 miles out of the first, when Peg put a nice big dirty nail in it!:smt092

One free tyre from Avon:smt039

[barwel1992]

shame mine has a few more miles on it than that even though its only 2 - 3 weeks old

[dizzyblonde]

It goes on a minimum tread depth. Can't remember the cut off, but I've been unlucky on three or four rear tyres by a fraction, its about time I got a free one!

[Biker Biggles]

From Wiki:

Tire is the older spelling, but both were used in the 15th and 16th centuries (for a metal tire). Tire became the settled spelling in the 17th century but tyre was revived in the UK in the 19th century for rubber / pneumatic tyres, possibly because it was used in some patent documents, though many continued to use tire for the iron variety. The Times newspaper was still using tire as late as 1905.

Also:

The Oxford dictionary, the British standard, says tyre is a variant spelling of tire (implying that tire is the more etymologically correct spelling). Regarding the spelling, the dictionary’s entry under “Tire” says:

“From 15th to 17th c. spelt tire and tyre indifferently. Before 1700 tyre became generally obsolete, and tire remained the regular form, as it still does in America; but in Great Britain tyre has been revived as the popular term for the rubber rim of bicycle, tricycle, carriage, or motor car wheels, and is sometimes used for the steel tires of locomotive wheels.”


"American" English is often closer to how we spoke two hundred years ago,including the accent.
Many thanks to our colonial consultant :smt039for pointing out the error of our spelling:D
Now get back under your maple leaf;)

[Bluefish]

Fountain pens are messy! When I was at school a few years ago everyone used to stamp on the cartidges and spray ink everywhere, so they were banned.


what the feck are cartidges reeder, glass houses and that.

[Sid Squid]

dont you just love tires?
No, I prefer tyres.

I find tires make my bike pull to the right.

[Lozzo]

No, I prefer tyres.

I find tires make my bike pull to the right.

They make my bike go extremely slowly and handle like a cruiser.

[yorkie_chris]

Barwell you spoiled soft *rsed southern poofter.

Learn to change tyres the old fashioned way with levers and then you'll have a far better chance of knowing what's going on with the machine and less chance of splitting your rim :-P

[CheGuevara]

"American" English is often closer to how we spoke two hundred years ago,including the accent.
Many thanks to our colonial consultant :smt039for pointing out the error of our spelling:D
Now get back under your maple leaf;)


:D Will do, but let me know if I can enlighten you on the merits of gas(oline) vs petrol ;)

[barwel1992]

Barwell you spoiled soft *rsed southern poofter.

Learn to change tyres the old fashioned way with levers and then you'll have a far better chance of knowing what's going on with the machine and less chance of splitting your rim :-P

lol i know how to work the machine you cheeky git :p

this is the first time i have not been able to get a tire on, and typical its my bike tire lol

and nout wrong with been southern at least we have electricity (do you northern lot even know what that is) :D

ps: rear mech is in the post

[yorkie_chris]

Got to be careful with the machines, as they're stronger than the tyres are which is never good. With levers you can feel if it's going to snap something which reminds you to check you got bead in the groove as much as you can or give it another squirt of slippy.
Well worth learning how to do manually.

You got the cylinder head?

[barwel1992]

Got to be careful with the machines, as they're stronger than the tyres are which is never good. With levers you can feel if it's going to snap something which reminds you to check you got bead in the groove as much as you can or give it another squirt of slippy.
Well worth learning how to do manually.

You got the cylinder head?

yeh, i can get car tires (slicks) on and off with just a leaver but this git wasn't going on, and ye i get what you mean, i watched one of the other lads wreck a £300 tire for a f3 car and it ripped a nice big hole in it :rolleyes:

yes i did, thanks :D

[beabert]

I think that you are right.

Also, if your computer spell checker uses American English, tires will get through unchecked, but tyres gets the big red underline of doubt! :evil:

I was shocked yesterday to discover that school children in this day and age do not use a fountain pen for written work! It is a disgrace if you ask me! :smt103

Good, I never understood why they made is use them???

yeh, i can get car tires (slicks) on and off with just a leaver but this git wasn't going on, and ye i get what you mean, i watched one of the other lads wreck a £300 tire for a f3 car and it ripped a nice big hole in it :rolleyes:

yes i did, thanks :D

Its the only thing i wont do myself, hate it, levers flying all over the place, rim protectors falling off, bent beads. I have watched load of videos that make it look easy, but i find getting the last side on is always a pain in the ****.

[barwel1992]

i pushed the one side on, i couldn't get the other on even with a lever bar. the tyre only just went on with the machine

i think i will stick to race car tyres and leave bike tyres to the pro's lol

[beabert]

My tyre place charges a seperate fee for taking the old tyre off, so i do that bit myself and put the first half of the new tyre on, just incase they put it on the wrong way.

[yorkie_chris]

i pushed the one side on, i couldn't get the other on even with a lever bar. the tyre only just went on with the machine

Storms aren't hard to fit, just make sure you have as much of it as possible right in the groove. Sometimes when pushing on the lever to get the last bit over a few pushes can work just to move all the slack to the right spot... use plenty slippy all around to let it move, not just on the bit you're trying to get over.

[CheGuevara]

Have changed plenty of difficult tires on my SM with levers. Loads of soapy water helps, but there's a couple of tricks to make it easier still. First, clamp the opposite side or the tire to make sure the bead fits into the centre of the rim (with the shortest radius). Also using thinner rim protecters help - cut from the sides of juice or oil containers for example.

[barwel1992]

it could have been down to that i was in a right pi$$y mood so was more than likely just not taking my time and getting agitated by it.

all an experience i suppose, at least i managed to put a bung in it and get me home, if, say i was at my nans or some thing i would have been faked