Triumph Speed Triples?

[McK]

Tell me about em. Anyone have any experience with these dainty machines? Any huge differences between the 955 and 1050 versions? Anything to look out for? Any particular problems?

I'm basically umming and ahhing about new bike options in the early spring and I'm seriously thinking about one of these.

[Amplimator]

The new ones are fugly, but they take off (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOZer6HhXu8) well.

[Whyte25]

I know a guy with one of these, it`s got an electrical problem with it and is "tempremental" when it wants to start - he`s had it into main dealers and no one can find anything wrong with it -. I think he may be toying with the idea of getting rid of it when he`s done with his "classic bike phase", he said he would seriously consider buying one again as this was his first speed triple. He bought it brand new and it`s a 1050 - 2008 model, could be 2009 - I think

Rgds

[rictus01]

just off out, but will give you my thoughts later.

[Holdup]

The new ones are fugly, but they take off (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOZer6HhXu8) well.

what the f

how did he manage that

must of kicked him off because of his KTM leathers

[orose]

If I'm honest, I love mine - much better than a racing crouch for longer rides, although it isn't too practical when it comes to sticking luggage on. Most people don't buy theirs for that though, so I'm probably in the minority.

Whyte25: What sort of misbehaviour is it up to - I've had most things wrong with mine, so I might be able to help ;)

[Specialone]

what the f

how did he manage that

must of kicked him off because of his KTM leathers

+1, possibly the worst rider to grace one of them bikes?
If you watch that a few times, he makes no effort to change whats about to happen, no clutch in, no roll off, no weight shift over the front, nothing.

BTW, i test rode a street and thought it was amazing, very entertaining bike, loved it.
I have a sprint 1050 and love the engine, its brilliant.

[McK]

Weird, apart from the guy in the video being a bit crap I actually like the look of the headlights there. Not going to be an issue as I wont buy a new one anyway.

[steveg]

Loving the triple engine in my sprint st1050 :)

Only had bike for 2 weeks so early days

Cheers Steveg

[Specialone]

Weird, apart from the guy in the video being a bit crap I actually like the look of the headlights there. Not going to be an issue as I wont buy a new one anyway.

I think the bike looks wicked, people who think its ugly dont have a mirror in their house ;)

[McK]

Any ideas on mileage that could be expected from the engine? Looking at one with 40k on it

[Specialone]

Any ideas on mileage that could be expected from the engine? Looking at one with 40k on it

Personally i wouldnt touch one with that mileage unless it was stupid cheap.

[McK]

Yeah thats what Im not sure about. If it was a CBR engine I wouldnt have a problem if it was well maintained. Not sure how Trumpet engines fare as they get older though

[Specialone]

Yeah thats what Im not sure about. If it was a CBR engine I wouldnt have a problem if it was well maintained. Not sure how Trumpet engines fare as they get older though

I meant all engines tbh, there is just too many around with lower mileage so id always choose one of them if their conditions were similar, like i said unless stupid cheap.

[Whyte25]

@ Orose: I`ll find out from him and get back to ya. Cheers Darren

[yorkie_chris]

Personally i wouldnt touch one with that mileage unless it was stupid cheap.

I disagree.

It's had chance for all the crap to go wrong with it, it's obviously been used so won't have problems from being stood.
Only thing to be careful of is some around 97/98 have weak gearbox and will go pop. At less miles than that though.
(with the obvious statement "so long as it's been looked after")

Not sure about new ones, but:
I would 100% go for 955i version rather than 1050, the 1050 seems to have more complication on it, looks 40% gayer, has no space for kit and seem to have LOTS more problems with them.

[steveg]

Would have thought the big lazy tripple engine would go round the clock ( hope so)

Cheers Steveg

[Dicky Ticker]

I have a 955i engine with 46k and I am not getting rid of it-----its only just run in and to be honest I expect it to do another 45k,then again I am meticulous over maintenance.

As a by-note as far as the 955i engine is concerned the 108bhp engine on 2001 models are allegedly the ones to have as they were the last before the factory burnt down and had the strictest quality control,which seemed to go astray a little after the fire for a little while. I believe the first of the 118bhp engines are very good as well.

[danf1234]

I meant all engines tbh, there is just too many around with lower mileage so id always choose one of them if their conditions were similar, like i said unless stupid cheap.


I have always been of the same opinion, with cars as well. However I am changing my mind now. Especially with modern engines that are actually built to last.

[rictus01]

had six of the 97-2001 S3's all easily done over 100k (look here (http://forums.sv650.org/album.php?albumid=390)), still have the seventh, not a great fan of the later 1050, it's a little softer and easier to ride in contrast to the looks which are a little meaner and dare I say "faker" IMO, but then I suppose it's opened up there prespective customer base greatly so a wise move, a very good real world engine, mechanically a little noisy by nature but a number of simple mods to make the most of it, a bit on the heavy side at slow speeds, from feel alone you'd never guess it was equipped with mere 4 pots as they work better than some far better spec'd setups, very good chassis and handling, with proper working fully adjustable ( spec'd for us brits, not some 7 stone jap bloke) suspension.

Were it not for injury I'd still be riding mine, for me a brilliant bike.

Cheers Mark

[McK]

Cheers for the input. Will go and have a look at this 40k one, its going for £2k so is pretty cheap compared to other models which are around the £3.5k mark. It's a 99 955i and looks very tidy so hoping its been well maintained.

@Rictus / Mark - just read your knee story. Sorry to hear its still causing you grief - ripped apart my right knee playing rugby as a kid and it still gives me gyp so I feel for you.

[Specialone]

My point about high mileage engines has been missed I think, why buy a high mileage one when there are so many lower mileage ones around, it's just stupid IMO unless like I say the price massively reflects the high mileage.

It's simple maths, lower mileage generally means less wear, correctly maintained of course.

I'm not doubting the engines will do the mileage, if correctly maintained I'm sure most modern engines would do 100k easily, but it could be like triggers broom in only fools and horses. You could put new components in the lump and run it forever couldn't you ?

[yorkie_chris]

My point about high mileage engines has been missed I think, why buy a high mileage one when there are so many lower mileage ones around, it's just stupid IMO unless like I say the price massively reflects the high mileage.

Time to uncover any weaknesses.
If I was looking at a 1050 I'd seek a higher mileage one as you're sure all the bad stuff will have happened to a previous owner and you're not getting a Friday afternoon bike.

But, wear and tear still affects everything. Depends on the bike and the maintenance. There are points on both sides of it.

[Dicky Ticker]

The point is what do people consider high mileage 2-3-4-5-6 thousand miles a year?
I do about 5-6 thou a year and don't consider that high and my bike is only for fun use 9 months of the year but when you speak to dealers that apparently is considered high mileage.My bike is now nine year old and not worth a carrot so I will be riding it till it drops now.

[Lozzo]

Yeah thats what Im not sure about. If it was a CBR engine I wouldnt have a problem if it was well maintained. Not sure how Trumpet engines fare as they get older though

They fare very well from my experience. I pulled apart an old 1992 Trident Sprint engine about 3 years ago, it had been sitting for 3 years and had a blown head gasket. When I'd got the head off I could still see the honing marks up the bores. That wouldn't have been any surprise, except this engine had well over 80,000 miles on the clock and virtually no service history to speak of. The oil had been changed when the previous owner could be bothered, or remembered it might need doing.

I've had similar experience working on a mate's 955i Daytona, and that has over 70,000 miles on the clock now.

I like Triumph engines, they are pretty unburstable even when not cared for. If you take a good look over a Triumph's chassis you'll find stainless steel nuts and bolts are used pretty much everywhere they can be, and the quality of finish on most parts is far better than you'll find on a modern Honda.

Next year I'm looking to buy my second Triumph, this time a Tiger 800. My first was a 2004 Daytona 955iSE in all black, and that was a brilliant bike.

[Lozzo]

The point is what do people consider high mileage 2-3-4-5-6 thousand miles a year?
I do about 5-6 thou a year and don't consider that high and my bike is only for fun use 9 months of the year but when you speak to dealers that apparently is considered high mileage.My bike is now nine year old and not worth a carrot so I will be riding it till it drops now.

Average mileage for an SV650 is 2500 miles a year, according to Glass's Guide and the CAP book. That makes my Versys absolutely worthless because in 18 months I've put nearly 14,000 miles on it. Glass's and the other price guides take an average of mileage done by all types of bikes, but unfortunately those people who garage their bikes for ten months of the year are doing themselves no favours because they are bringing the prices of used bikes down for everyone.

Dealers rarely give a better price for a low mileage bike, so you may as well make the most of the money you've spent and actually ride the bloody thing rather than sit there washing and polishing an expensive driveway ornament that will devalue no matter how nice it is.