View Full Version : biker nearly killed my mate
davepreston
28-11-10, 02:02 AM
for those who were at my birthday its heather the girl on crutches
she was in a taxi going home and a biker plowed into her side at about 80mph ,shes been in surgery and is in intesive care as we speak
now this plep was doing that speed in the city center in these conditions, to say im angry doesnt even come close
so listen here you ****ing muppet i am going to get my hands on you and insert whats left of your bike up ur **** and then beat you till your in a ****ing coma, and thats the pleasent version if she pulls through ok, if she doesnt im going to break the fingers of every one of your family and friends untill your alone desperate and suicidle then im going to repeatidly run you over with my bike so you know what pain is you ****
minimorecambe
28-11-10, 07:00 AM
Hope she pulls through and is back to full health soon.
Sending my best wishes xxx
A biker hit her at 80 and didn't fall off?
Not good.
Isn't he probably already in a coma?
danf1234
28-11-10, 09:14 AM
Actually...he's dead.
Really?
Actually...he's dead.
Really?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-11853498
If this is the crash referred to.
Dave- I hope your friend pulls though makes a speedy recovery x
Am putting two and two together, but looks that way.
http://www.lep.co.uk/news/motorcyclist_killed_in_taxi_smash_1_2794093
Still a gutting incident for Dave's mate \nd hope she gets well soon.
timwilky
28-11-10, 10:06 AM
Read about it in the Evening Post Dave.
Nobody deserves to die or get hurt, If he was riding recklessly. I am sure the courts will hand out appropriate punishments if fault lies elsewhere.
From the report I read, no blame was at that point being attached, I was initially thinking the taxi must be to blame for killing the bike. But if as you say it was the other way round, the truth will out. But at the end of the day, he was somebodies son, and probably loved by his family and friends
husky03
28-11-10, 11:53 AM
horrible-but until you know the full ins and out dave you'd be better to hold judgement-could have been an inexperienced biker whose throttle jammed and he paniced or something-your showing the opinion that bikers are subjected to when there's a crash, "it must have been ther bikers fault"-hope your mate pulls through, and thoughts with the bikers family.
Milky Bar Kid
28-11-10, 12:53 PM
horrible-but until you know the full ins and out dave you'd be better to hold judgement-could have been an inexperienced biker whose throttle jammed and he paniced or something-your showing the opinion that bikers are subjected to when there's a crash, "it must have been ther bikers fault"-hope your mate pulls through, and thoughts with the bikers family.
What he said Dave.
I hope your friend is ok, try to get rid of the anger and just be there for her. Thinking of you bud, it's a horrible thing to deal with. *hugs*
metalmonkey
28-11-10, 01:02 PM
Dave sorry to hear about your friend, both so young as well lets hope your friend is okay and heals up.
missyburd
28-11-10, 03:02 PM
Oh no, I remember Heather from your do Dave, poor girl, shocked to read this. Crossing everything, really hopes she pulls through. Please let us know how things go xx
Just goes to show, you never know what is round the corner :-(
Sorry to hear that your friend was hurt DP, hope she is OK.
davepreston
28-11-10, 08:29 PM
well update they removed her spleen and fixed up the mass internal injuries ,worked on her for hours but all seems to have gone well, hoping to take her of the ventilator tomorrow
as for the biker he did die at the hospital, and the story so far is he was racing his mates who were in another taxi to get home first from the pub,
loonytoon
28-11-10, 09:10 PM
no way my thoughts are with you an your friend man, this is a shocking thing to hear.
unfortunatly its people like this that give us all a bad name.
i wouldnt wish this upon anyone.
Milky Bar Kid
28-11-10, 09:15 PM
Horrible circumstances. Glad to hear your friend is doing well so far Dave, keep us updated.
Have some more hugs *hugs*
andrewsmith
28-11-10, 09:28 PM
no way my thoughts are with you an your friend man, this is a shocking thing to hear.
unfortunatly its people like this that give us all a bad name.
i wouldnt wish this upon anyone.
Here here
Sorry to here that DP
Speedy Claire
28-11-10, 09:58 PM
Hope Heather recovers quickly from her injuries Dave, it`s an awful thing to happen and i`m so sorry for you and all her friends and family who are going through this worry. I`m going to risk your anger here by also adding that my deepest sympathy is with the family and friends of the biker... they have lost a son/brother/friend and their grief will be unbearable.
husky03
28-11-10, 10:04 PM
the guy has paid the ultimate price through his actions , here's hoping your pal recovers quickly.
AndyBrad
28-11-10, 10:05 PM
**** dave, sorry to here about your mate :( hope she's alright!
Hope Heather recovers quickly from her injuries Dave, it`s an awful thing to happen and i`m so sorry for you and all her friends and family who are going through this worry. I`m going to risk your anger here by also adding that my deepest sympathy is with the family and friends of the biker... they have lost a son/brother/friend and their grief will be unbearable.
+1
ThEGr33k
28-11-10, 11:35 PM
Ah this sounds awful all through! Glad to hear your friend seems to be pulling through reasonably well considering though!
Makes you wonder, what the hell made him want to race at that time in these conditions (if that is infact the case)! Just seems a little beyond belief... RIP.
Hope your friend is okay...
This is terrible news on all sides.
Dave & Gemma I really hope Heather meands well.
ethariel
29-11-10, 09:46 AM
Bugger, hope she pulls through ok Dave :(
BoltonSte
29-11-10, 10:25 AM
Fook me!.
Hope she's OK Dave. Never good when someone close gets hurt.
Ste
benji106
29-11-10, 12:53 PM
Really sorry to hear this mate, hope she makes a full and rapid recovery.
Have to say though, my brother is a 21 year old biker in Preston, and my heart was in my mouth when I read the article. I know I would have known by now, and I doubt he even has his bike on the road at the moment, but til I read R6 it wasnt a nice feeling. As has been said it will be someones brother/son/friend who has died and I wouldnt wish that on anyone.
All the best
Ben
reall ysoory about this tale Dave....
Like i posted a few weeks ago - we need to slow bikes / scooterists down in towns - the kids in scooters are deadly round here , they seem to think its a race , premanently , on two wheels...how do we do it....?????
davepreston
29-11-10, 05:04 PM
Really sorry to hear this mate, hope she makes a full and rapid recovery.
Have to say though, my brother is a 21 year old biker in Preston, and my heart was in my mouth when I read the article. I know I would have known by now, and I doubt he even has his bike on the road at the moment, but til I read R6 it wasnt a nice feeling. As has been said it will be someones brother/son/friend who has died and I wouldnt wish that on anyone.
All the best
Ben
yes i have calmed down a bit since the op and im sure those that know me will atest im not a vindicive person, but like anyone who just hear a dear friend was near killed i was livid, especially being a biker myself made me more upset
now my thoughts are with his family who must be in pieces atm and like everyone else i would like nothing better than to wave a magic wand and make everyones pain go away, yes he unfortunately had to pay the highest price for his mistake which is a shame most of us at some point have been lucky in one way or another, and have be able to learn from ours
so to finish rip young lad im sure your sorry for what damage youve caused and i for one can forgive it, may your lesson be learnt by others and do some good in the end
davepreston
29-11-10, 05:07 PM
reall ysoory about this tale Dave....
Like i posted a few weeks ago - we need to slow bikes / scooterists down in towns - the kids in scooters are deadly round here , they seem to think its a race , premanently , on two wheels...how do we do it....?????
tbh i dont think we can, and i wouldnt even know where to start. education only goes so far, and unfortunately its not till something like this happens to someone close to you do most people take stock
Good man Dave. I feel your pain, and send you heartfelt sympathy, but there is more than one life involved here.
It takes a very big person to forgive, with a big and noble heart.
Good wishes to all of you affected xx
Biker Biggles
29-11-10, 05:44 PM
yes i have calmed down a bit since the op and im sure those that know me will atest im not a vindicive person, but like anyone who just hear a dear friend was near killed i was livid, especially being a biker myself made me more upset
now my thoughts are with his family who must be in pieces atm and like everyone else i would like nothing better than to wave a magic wand and make everyones pain go away, yes he unfortunately had to pay the highest price for his mistake which is a shame most of us at some point have been lucky in one way or another, and have be able to learn from ours
so to finish rip young lad im sure your sorry for what damage youve caused and i for one can forgive it, may your lesson be learnt by others and do some good in the end
Well put.
And all the best to your friend.
i'm shocked to hear such news. my thoughts go out to your friends family and all that know her. i hope that she makes a full and speedy recovery.
speeding it city/town/villages is a no no in my book, but there is nothing that anyone can do apart from starting to frown upon people who do it.
Speedy Claire
29-11-10, 06:03 PM
yes i have calmed down a bit since the op and im sure those that know me will atest im not a vindicive person, but like anyone who just hear a dear friend was near killed i was livid, especially being a biker myself made me more upset
now my thoughts are with his family who must be in pieces atm and like everyone else i would like nothing better than to wave a magic wand and make everyones pain go away, yes he unfortunately had to pay the highest price for his mistake which is a shame most of us at some point have been lucky in one way or another, and have be able to learn from ours
so to finish rip young lad im sure your sorry for what damage youve caused and i for one can forgive it, may your lesson be learnt by others and do some good in the end
Respect to you for the above post Dave and I hope Heather`s condition continues to improve x
-Ralph-
29-11-10, 06:34 PM
Tragedy. GWS to your friend Dave, such that the biker may RIP. Think about the ones that love you when driving or riding folks. In a perfect world widows and orphans wouldn't be made under such circumstances. :(
yorkie_chris
29-11-10, 06:48 PM
I don't think I can remember the girl you refer to (that's your fault Dave) but hope she pulls through.
tbh i dont think we can, and i wouldnt even know where to start. education only goes so far, and unfortunately its not till something like this happens to someone close to you do most people take stock
Everybody has had a bit of high jinx and stupidity occasionally, fact of life that some time it goes wrong. No way you could stop it all without being a completely mental government that bans everything, they're trying to eradicate bikes and bikers anyway so lets not help them out eh.
@DP - Props to ya mate, glad you could get over the anger and hurt to see the bigger picture. Guy has made a mistake and paid for it with his life, as you say we all have scrapes and get away with them to learn lessons, this sounds like it's all his fault and he's not had the opportunity to realise how wrong he was to do what he did.
davepreston
01-12-10, 05:11 PM
http://www.lep.co.uk/news/local/family_s_anger_after_speeding_bike_tragedy_1_28094 46
now he was on a nicked bike
Specialone
01-12-10, 05:19 PM
TBH Dave after reading that i aint got much sympathy, feel for his family though, but your friends family have still got a daugther in limbo.
I really hope she makes a full speedy recovery.
Making a mistake is one thing, making a mistake on a stolen bike is another.
Speedy Claire
01-12-10, 05:37 PM
Is truly awful... it just increases the grief and anger all round. Heather seems to be showing some encouraging signs so let`s hope she`s soon off the critical list and heading home x
andrewsmith
01-12-10, 05:45 PM
Well I've no sympathy for the lad killed, the idiot shouldn't have been doing 3 times the limit in the town centre.
I hope Heather pulls through soon
I wish your friend a quick recovery DP. I can't believe how idiotic and selfish people are to speed on a stolen bike with disregard to others.
Really grinds my gears when I read about bikers doing things like this. And people often say in response "oh I suppose you never speed". Ofcourse I do, just not in built up areas and busy town centres :toss: I think the fact he was on a stolen bike tells you all you need to know about the kind of person he was (assuming he knew it was stolen?)
If you want to act like a tool on your bike then fine, but do it away from innocent bystanders who you might take with you
Reminds me of a young lad who passed away last year in Southport. Whilst I had the utmost sympathy for his family, I was just glad the numbnuts hadnt taken anyway out in the accident. He was 18, riding around on a Bandit 1200 that should have been restricted and wasnt. He apparently "liked his wheelies" :rolleyes: and 1 of my mates said he'd sometimes go out not wearing a helmet. The speed of his collision obliterated a postbox. No other casualties in this case, thank god.
Sorry for the derail
Specialone
01-12-10, 06:25 PM
Tbh, matters not if he knew it was stolen or not, he obviously knew it wasn't insured so shouldn't have been on it regardless and he was doing almost three times the speed limit in a town.
yes i have calmed down a bit since the op and im sure those that know me will atest im not a vindicive person, but like anyone who just hear a dear friend was near killed i was livid, especially being a biker myself made me more upset
now my thoughts are with his family who must be in pieces atm and like everyone else i would like nothing better than to wave a magic wand and make everyones pain go away, yes he unfortunately had to pay the highest price for his mistake which is a shame most of us at some point have been lucky in one way or another, and have be able to learn from ours
so to finish rip young lad im sure your sorry for what damage youve caused and i for one can forgive it, may your lesson be learnt by others and do some good in the end
I hope your friend gets better soon to be with her friends and family over the Christmas season.
You have shown above that you are someone who is to be highly respected; regardless of how you felt at the beginning, you put it aside to acknowledge the life of someone else.
I for one applaud your sense of compassion to another, and am glad that you have found some peace in such a horrid situation.
-Ralph-
01-12-10, 07:11 PM
He may not have known it was stolen, but he was "well known to Preston police", so you could probably draw enough conclusions from that.
yorkie_chris
01-12-10, 07:34 PM
Really grinds my gears when I read about bikers doing things like this. And people often say in response "oh I suppose you never speed". Ofcourse I do, just not in built up areas and busy town centres :toss: I think the fact he was on a stolen bike tells you all you need to know about the kind of person he was (assuming he knew it was stolen?)
Let's be honest, it's not like you need the brains of friggin Britain to decide if something is nicked or not.
I enquired about a bike for sale:
No log book (what's one of them mate?)
No keys, can be started with anything (he didn't seem suspicious about this)
No number plate (it's a field bike mate)
Of course I reported the ad to the police, not that I would get my hopes up about it ever getting back to the rightful owner.
Very true, 2bh when I bought my car I was guilty of not checking the VIN number but had a history check done. Checked over the V5 and away I went.
I only said that as a woman at my old work bought a mini cooper S in good faith and turned out to be a ringer, police came and :smt039 there goes £10k down the toilet. The scumbags had apparently done a fair few. Gave over pretty convincing documents and their work altering the VIN numbers was "impressive to the untrained eye"
Anytime i'm buying something like that, my instincts are if the price is too good to be true then usually the guys a feckin thief :p
metalangel
01-12-10, 08:03 PM
This is an awful thing to read. I wish her a full recovery.
missyburd
01-12-10, 08:28 PM
This really is a tragedy :-( Really rooting for Heather pulling through. Hope you and Gem are ok Dave.
Just read a few of the comments that have been posted in response to the link you put up Dave, seems there were witnesses claiming it was far closer to 40mph, whether they're telling the truth is a different story mind :rolleyes:
missyburd
19-12-10, 12:24 AM
any update on Heather's recovery?
Well this is a seriously sad thing to read. :( Hoping for better things for your friend Dave.
Hope Heather has a speedy recovery mate, so this guy was not a biker after all!
Just some kn0b that stole a bike!
I also have no sympathy for the guy and would expect his family was waiting for something like this to happen.
Of all the bikes that mates of mine have had stolen not one has been found inclueding mine.
My shotgun has to be kept in a suitable locked store but my bike's security is left to me are they both not life taking weapons?
Disc locks and chains should be manditory!
I wonder if the bikes owner is gutterd that his baby has caused death and injury or if he is pleased that the robber has stolen his last bike.
So Heather once well will have no compensation unless the Taxi has insurance and then the insurance company will say there driver was not at fault.
As you know I had a car pull out straight infront of me in April and I'm still waiting for any kind of response.
It makes you wonder why we have insurance if they are so reluctant to pay out.
Specialone
19-12-10, 01:27 AM
Hope Heather has a speedy recovery mate, so this guy was not a biker after all!
Just some kn0b that stole a bike!
I also have no sympathy for the guy and would expect his family was waiting for something like this to happen.
Of all the bikes that mates of mine have had stolen not one has been found inclueding mine.
My shotgun has to be kept in a suitable locked store but my bike's security is left to me are they both not life taking weapons?
Disc locks and chains should be manditory!
I wonder if the bikes owner is gutterd that his baby has caused death and injury or if he is pleased that the robber has stolen his last bike.
So Heather once well will have no compensation unless the Taxi has insurance and then the insurance company will say there driver was not at fault.
As you know I had a car pull out straight infront of me in April and I'm still waiting for any kind of response.
It makes you wonder why we have insurance if they are so reluctant to pay out.
FYI, all licensed taxi drivers will have liability insurance to cover their passengers, so some compensation will be available.
There is also compensation available from the uninsured drivers compensation thingy for exactly this reason, to compensate for claims from uninsured drivers.
My wife was in a RTC while in a taxi in the 90's, the driver of the vehicle that rear ended her taxi gave false details but she still got compensation.
She was off work for about 6 weeks with back pain due to it and was examined by 2-3 independant consultants appointed by the insurance companies.
It took about 18 months for her claim to be paid out, just stick with it.
I'm up in Halifax so I'm used to watching Taxis crash then people getting out and swapping plates before the fuzz get near.
I hope she makes a speedy recovery, and at least another idiot is removed from the gene pool.
But...
Disc locks and chains should be manditory!.
What a load of bollox, get real, speed limiters should be made mandatory too then, and you need a license to have a kitchen knife in your house :rolleyes:
My bike is kept in a garage and rarely leaves my view (if ever) when I'm out on it, I'm sure as hell never going to be carrying a heavy disc lock and chain around with mr which in reality do feck all.
xXBADGERXx
19-12-10, 11:50 AM
Dave , send her my best wishes for a good recovery mate , I chatted with her for a bit and walked through town as she hobbled along on her crutches , give her a delicate hug from me when you see her .
davepreston
19-12-10, 06:03 PM
well shes home now and recovering, will be on pills for the rest of her life due to her spline being removed and asorted busted bits are making thing painful atm, but at least shes still here
i'll pass on all your best wishs
dave
Speedy Claire
19-12-10, 06:24 PM
Thats great news Dave, perfect xmas present for both Heather and her friends and family x
andrewsmith
19-12-10, 06:30 PM
Thats brilliant news Dave
Thats great news Dave, perfect xmas present for both Heather and her friends and family x
Yep couldn't have that better Claire
Glad to hear she's home and at least on the road to recovery!
missyburd
19-12-10, 10:57 PM
really glad to hear it. she's a lucky gal, and lucky to have such caring friends in you and Gem :)
FYI, all licensed taxi drivers will have liability insurance to cover their passengers, so some compensation will be available.
There is also compensation available from the uninsured drivers compensation thingy for exactly this reason, to compensate for claims from uninsured drivers.
My wife was in a RTC while in a taxi in the 90's, the driver of the vehicle that rear ended her taxi gave false details but she still got compensation.
She was off work for about 6 weeks with back pain due to it and was examined by 2-3 independant consultants appointed by the insurance companies.
It took about 18 months for her claim to be paid out, just stick with it.
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