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As a new rider I think it might be sensible to fit a set of crash bungs so does anyone have any advice on which (cheap) ones to go for?
Ebay is full of them, any comments on the following?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370374624880&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230553941970&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230555192931&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=390260774864&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
(bike is a K6 SV650s by the way)
barwel1992
28-11-10, 10:54 PM
why cheep ? theres a reason why they are cheep ...... after last weeks episode i will never skimp on crash bungs again
why cheep ? theres a reason why they are cheep ...... after last weeks episode i will never skimp on crash bungs again
+1 R&G's all the way. Have also experienced cheaper alternatives, not good!
Cheap because I think that £100 is excessive. It's not like they're some engineering masterpiece, not enough to warrant a 10x price difference anyway.
barwel1992
28-11-10, 11:09 PM
R&G's are only £70 they saved my bike from over £300 worth of damage and that was a 25mph spill if i had lesser bungs or no bungs the rad would be toast and at £300 for a rad id gladly pay £70 for R&G's
if you cant aford it then get some cheep ones, then save ure ass off for some proper ones
yorkie_chris
28-11-10, 11:10 PM
+1 R&G's all the way. Have also experienced cheaper alternatives, not good!
R+Gs are sh*te for the SV, fold up like paper. Motosliders are much better.
DarrenSV650S
28-11-10, 11:11 PM
Cheap because I think that £100 is excessive. It's not like they're some engineering masterpiece, not enough to warrant a 10x price difference anyway.
Just paint some yoghurt pots black and stick them on your fairing ;)
I can do R&G's delivered for £93 ???
barwel1992
28-11-10, 11:13 PM
R+Gs are sh*te for the SV, fold up like paper. Motosliders are much better.
mine worked fine and only slightly bent the bolt ?
yorkie_chris
28-11-10, 11:14 PM
Try crash on it twice :-P
barwel1992
28-11-10, 11:18 PM
haha no thanks will leave that for some one else to try, i replaced the bung and bolt :)
As a new rider I think it might be sensible to fit a set of crash bungs so does anyone have any advice on which (cheap) ones to go for?
Ebay is full of them, any comments on the following?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370374624880&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230553941970&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230555192931&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=390260774864&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
(bike is a K6 SV650s by the way)
all of them are rubbish, esp those DHM's, using those dented my frame!
is your bike fully faired?
Matts-Yokes
29-11-10, 01:42 PM
Go to a company that manufactures them rather than a supplier, bad fitting or cheap crash bungs are more likely to do extra damage rather than save damage.
Sometimes crash bungs are bad as they may allow the bike to slide but then when the bike slids into a kerb or over a grid they dig in damage the mounting points (frame/engine etc) and flip the bike over to damage the other side.
You can pay £20 for a pair to either damage or save your bike or you can pay £150 pair to damage or save your bike, i dont and never will fit them to a bike as i think they are just a waste of money.
Maybe they are good for a newbie who might drop the bike at walking pace through lack of experience but not worth the trouble for experienced riders. The extra joke is some crash bungs even fit by drilling big holes in your fairing, whats the point in that??
Typhoon
29-11-10, 01:57 PM
Iv'e got a good set of R&G's in the for sale section if they are any good to you?
andrewsmith
29-11-10, 02:00 PM
The cheap bungs are known to damage frames.
If you cant just justify R+G prices import a set of motosliders from the states
either Matt is on new tablets or mine are working a bit better but i agree with him and to add whats the point of them when you know that the insurance company are just going to write your bike off with any kind of damage. better putting your money towards better tyres or a day out.
Matts-Yokes
29-11-10, 04:33 PM
either Matt is on new tablets or mine are working a bit better but i agree with him and to add whats the point of them when you know that the insurance company are just going to write your bike off with any kind of damage. better putting your money towards better tyres or a day out.
Ha ha! I stopped taking the meds so you must of upped yours eh! :D
danf1234
29-11-10, 05:45 PM
either Matt is on new tablets or mine are working a bit better but i agree with him and to add whats the point of them when you know that the insurance company are just going to write your bike off with any kind of damage. better putting your money towards better tyres or a day out.
lol :D
R+Gs are sh*te for the SV, fold up like paper. Motosliders are much better.
Even the ones with the massive chunky braket for the full faired SV?
danf1234
29-11-10, 05:55 PM
Even the ones with the massive chunky braket for the full faired SV?
Hope not as that's what I have on mine. They look pretty substantial to me and look like they could take a right wack.
NOT that intend testing them!
barwel1992
29-11-10, 06:03 PM
either Matt is on new tablets or mine are working a bit better but i agree with him and to add whats the point of them when you know that the insurance company are just going to write your bike off with any kind of damage. better putting your money towards better tyres or a day out.
that theory does not work unless you are over 21 and in the lower risk insurance group if i had claimed on my insurance for my spill last week it would have cost me substantially more insurance next year, its cost me £100 in repairs if i did not have the bungs it would have cost £300 for the rad alone so would have had to get insurance involved and that would end with my paying about £500 more next year for insurance
i think i will stick with using bungs ;)
yorkie_chris
29-11-10, 06:35 PM
i dont and never will fit them to a bike as i think they are just a waste of money.
Maybe they are good for a newbie who might drop the bike at walking pace through lack of experience but not worth the trouble for experienced riders. The extra joke is some crash bungs even fit by drilling big holes in your fairing, whats the point in that??
You're on crack, or you've never owned an SV. Especially a naked.
When the radiator has just been ripped in half from a lowside with no kerbs or road furniture involved (newsflash, experienced riders have these too!) ... you telling me you would rather spend £500 from suzuki or go through your insurance (who'd write it off) and cost you £1000+ in excess, and increased premiums for 5 years?
On curvy tanks and radiators are prone to damage, which crash bungs can avoid. And also let you ride the bike home!
Also this point about crash bungs flipping the bike over on hitting a kerb. True, however you have to question the damage to everything if an un-slidered bike did the same thing. Kerbstone will flip any bike sliders or not.
I do not think there is any case against sliders except for racetrack where a slide on grass is more likely and sliders tend to dig in and flip it.
Point about £150 crash bungs necessarily being better than cheap ones is also just plain wrong, being that we're on an SV650 forum the expensive offering is worse than the cheap one!
Another one for you is the sliders for numerous GSXRs and sports bikes are exactly the same design whoever you buy them off, be that Mr £20 eBay merchant, or R+G for £100+.
Experienced riders? Give me a break, falling off is falling off. The sort of "newb walking pace" crash you describe would not do any damage anyway beyond a few scratches.
Basically I disagree with your entire argument :)
when you know that the insurance company are just going to write your bike off with any kind of damage. better putting your money towards better tyres or a day out.
See above point about the finances of insurance excess and premiums. You must have more money than me to think like that.
Even the ones with the massive chunky braket for the full faired SV?
Massive chunky bracket of earlier design was crap. Bung folds up because it has a radius cut in the back of it which stresses bolt and causes it to fail.
barwel1992
29-11-10, 06:42 PM
Massive chunky bracket of earlier design was crap. Bung folds up because it has a radius cut in the back of it which stresses bolt and causes it to fail.
so the ones i have that sit flat against the frame are the better to have ?
PS +1 to every thing YC said
PPS i have a naked so could be different for a faired bike
Mighty Boosh
29-11-10, 06:56 PM
If you do decide to fit bungs as I have.
Ensure you tourque them correctly;).
danf1234
29-11-10, 07:02 PM
If you do decide to fit bungs as I have.
Ensure you tourque them correctly;).
And try not to crash!:D
See above point about the finances of insurance excess and premiums. You must have more money than me to think like that.
i buy fully comp and in the event of a spill its up to them to repair or pay out, being an old fart has its advantages. ok so i might have to add a couple hundred quid to a new one if its written off but thats life.
maybe maybe not i dont know how well off you are.
Matts-Yokes
30-11-10, 11:43 AM
[QUOTE=yorkie_chris;2431642]You're on crack, or you've never owned an SV. Especially a naked.
SV's came out long after i wanted a bike of this size, im tall and they are uncomfortably short in the legroom dept.
So like most people on here the answer is - No i dont own an SV
I prefer my KTM Supermoto.
Anyone can crash its just that experienced people crash less, funnily enough! I have never claimed on a policy but if i did its a trade policy so wouldnt affect any no claims anyway.
Yorkie chris your quote "The sort of "newb walking pace" crash you describe would not do any damage anyway beyond a few scratches."
What a load of ********, If you fall off and "scratch the frame through the paint that will write an SV off, just like the crash bung denting the frame mounting point would too"
yorkie_chris
30-11-10, 07:31 PM
Yorkie chris your quote "The sort of "newb walking pace" crash you describe would not do any damage anyway beyond a few scratches."
What a load of ********, If you fall off and "scratch the frame through the paint that will write an SV off, just like the crash bung denting the frame mounting point would too
Frame does not touch down on an SV in a normal drop; tank, radiator, fairings, footpegs, bar ends touch first.
If you scratch frame through paint insurance will write it off, but any sensible person will go "oh look, a scratch, that's not worth claiming for".
Crash bungs do not dent the frame mounting point, they go into the cast ally center section of frame and these points are directly bolted into the engine. The alloy is basically just a spacer and not really under stress* in a drop.
*From the bung
yorkie_chris
30-11-10, 07:36 PM
i buy fully comp and in the event of a spill its up to them to repair or pay out, being an old fart has its advantages. ok so i might have to add a couple hundred quid to a new one if its written off but thats life.
maybe maybe not i dont know how well off you are.
I do not have couple hundred quid for fully comp insurance never mind excess claiming from little crashes :p
Examples of my crashes and costs involved
First one: radiator, brake lever, indicators, headlights, bars. £200+
Comparable crash 2 years later with motosliders, swingarm sliders and handguards cost me one footpeg (£8!)
The cheap bungs for the fully faired pointy must be avoided at all costs, they rely on the original and feeble steel bracket that is designed only to support the fairing. Putting lots of force into this will bend it, and crack the fairing at the same time. The R&G bungs are a bit pricey but they have at least thought about the design as it comes with extremely chunky alloy brackets supported from two points on the frame. Also check out the price of new lower fairings from Suzuki and the R&G bungs don't look like such a bad deal.
For the bar ends, fork sliders and swing arm cotton reels it's less important as the mounting are all very similar.
Matt; I know several experienced bikers who have dropped a bike when simply pushing it into the garage or at a petrol station etc. It's very easy to overbalance in these situations and all you can do is put the bike down as gently as possible.
lammypie
03-12-10, 04:32 PM
if this thread is still relevant, ive got a set of brand new motosliders i can get to you for about £60-70. bought them for my faired but theyre meant for the bikes without lowers. fits any year/model. not worth sending back to the states since the postage costs are daft.
if you want them let me know, theyre on fleabay aswell so chop chop
andrewsmith
03-12-10, 06:36 PM
if this thread is still relevant, ive got a set of brand new motosliders i can get to you for about £60-70. bought them for my faired but theyre meant for the bikes without lowers. fits any year/model. not worth sending back to the states since the postage costs are daft.
if you want them let me know, theyre on fleabay aswell so chop chop
Linky?
lammypie
03-12-10, 06:43 PM
sorry already been pm about them. theyre in the for sale section anyway if it doesnt work out
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