View Full Version : Red Wine, HELP!
munkygunn182
07-12-10, 05:21 PM
Ladies and Gentlemen of the org, to reward the guy who saved my pay packet ( see other thread) he's told me he drinks red wine. I know nothing about red wine, so help is needed. What's a good bottle?
Get a Faustino (any number) - it's nice, looks fancy and not too expensive.
Get one for yourself while you're at it :)
Bluepete
07-12-10, 05:26 PM
I would recommend a Californian red, preferably a Zinfandel or Shiraz (Syrah - same thing different name)
Go for a single estate, rather than Gallo or similar.
Also, avoid half price bargains, not the value you think, better to get the £1.50 or £2.00 off instead, usually better VFM and you aren't paying for the "name".
If you can find it, Frog's Leap is superb.
Pete ;)
Depends how much you want to spend!!
I would be very pleased to receive a bottle of Amarone della Valpolicella (not basic Valpolicella) on the Italian section in Tescos but it's pricey - £15 - £20 - so might be too much for you.
Depends how much you want to spend!!
I would be very pleased to receive a bottle of Amarone della Valpolicella (not basic Valpolicella) on the Italian section in Tescos but it's pricey - £15 - £20 - so might be too much for you.
+1
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munkygunn182
07-12-10, 05:32 PM
And how much, roughly, (promise I won't take you to court) should I be looking at spending to get a decent bottle, i'm having a flick through oddbins just now and there's such a massive variety!
I appologise for the utter lack of knowledge, but i'm a bourbon whisky / vodka boy!
munkygunn182
07-12-10, 05:35 PM
Well if I were to set a budget of ~£20, seeing as it's about £250 he's picked up and offered to return!
davepreston
07-12-10, 05:39 PM
10% finders fee ya cheep jock
2 nice bottles £12.50 each or a £20+ bottle
Just get 6 x £4 bottles instead of one £20+ one....
munkygunn182
07-12-10, 05:46 PM
10% finders fee ya cheep jock
2 nice bottles £12.50 each or a £20+ bottle
That deserves the typical jock reply then! He can have a reasonable priced bottle, or my steel toe caps ;)
I jest, just need advice on what the hell im buying!
Ooooooh and cheep = cheap? ;)
Kilted Ginger
07-12-10, 05:55 PM
To be honest, if he actually likes wine, unlike most who just drink it with no real appreciation (me included) he probably has his preferences, country and type, it may be an idea to get him a gift card for one of the wine shops, an local independent as opposed to a chain.
if i had to pick then chateau neuf du pap is a nice one, or any of the brown brothers range
davepreston
07-12-10, 06:01 PM
https://www.winedeal.co.uk/images/nix.gifChâteau La Garenne - Pomero (https://www.winedeal.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=581)l
Vintage:[
2004Region
Pomerol, France
Description:https://www.winedeal.co.uk/images/nix.gif
This is a beautiful and complex wine. Dark red in colour with some purple in the rim. The nose is fruity with hints of red fruits such as blackberries and blueberries and some oak. On the palate, this Pomerol is powerful, full-bodied, tannic with a great oak characteristics such as vanilla and spice. The finish is long. Mis en bouteilles au Chateau. You can try the wine now but we recommend you keep it in your cellar for about five years.
Price:https://www.winedeal.co.uk/images/nix.gifNormal £24.99
£12.49
a lovely wine
ooooh and cheep = accent ;)
Nobbylad
07-12-10, 06:08 PM
Expensive = http://www.majestic.co.uk/find/keyword-is-masi/product-is-13831
Cheaper = http://www.oddbins.com/product-details/masi-passo-doble
-Ralph-
07-12-10, 06:13 PM
To be honest, if he actually likes wine, unlike most who just drink it with no real appreciation (me included) he probably has his preferences, country and type, it may be an idea to get him a gift card for one of the wine shops
+1
If he wants a case for £18 quid or if he wants a nice single bottle, it's up to him then.
Maybe get him an Oddbins voucher, so he get his own favourite. Wine choice is a minefield and often very personal decision. What one person likes another may hate.
Failing that, go to your nearest independent wineseller and tell him what you need and your budget and be guided by them. The independents usually give good advice
JamesMio
07-12-10, 07:17 PM
Another vote for the voucher - can't go wrong with that...
timwilky
07-12-10, 08:05 PM
Get him a nice Amarone or a Borolo. The sort of nice wines that you never buy for yourself.
Wolf Blass - yellow label - cabernet - less than a tenner any supermarket. Medal winner wine - not a bad drop to neck when one is doing the Sunday roast I might add...;)
Dave20046
07-12-10, 10:07 PM
Another vote for the voucher - can't go wrong with that...
Only downside is he'll know you're giving him less than 10%..
...Whereas you can pick up a bottle of corked wine at any price roll it in dust and he'll not give too much thought to the value.
Either that or tesco are doing some dino wine half price, £4 and it's actually nice.. although unfortunately the bottle design's changed this year to screw top so I kept it for myself and used the above technique to offload the horrible more expensive wine I knew I didn't like. Win win.
appollo1
07-12-10, 10:38 PM
Buckie?
:winner:
keith_d
07-12-10, 10:59 PM
Personally, I'd go for a good Rioja. Had an excellent '96 at the weekend with some friends. Rich, tasty and ready to drink. Shame the St. Emilion didn't come up to the same standards.
From memory I think years to look for are 1995, 1996, 2001 and 2004 but I'm sure Google can find you the full list.
Keith.
Luckypants
07-12-10, 11:33 PM
Keith is on the money I think, the single bodega Riojas have been very good for the past 5 years or so. Quite affordable too, so go to an independent wine seller for advice on a good buy. Avoid the Faustino, it may say Rioja on the bottle but it is 'MacWine' blended from several wineries, better to get a good single bodega and a pay a little more.
If you want to push the boat out, anything RED from Bordeux for the 2009 vintage will impress. I've not been lucky enough to try anything from that year, but all the reports suggest a great vintage.
Nobbylad
08-12-10, 09:56 AM
Get him a nice Amarone or a Borolo. The sort of nice wines that you never buy for yourself.
http://www.majestic.co.uk/find/keyword-is-masi/product-is-13831
Mentioned this one in my post, it is expensive but it is an absolute belter of a wine. It's so big, you almost need a knife and fork to deal with it.
454697819
08-12-10, 10:40 AM
crikey you guys know a lot more about wine than I do...
errr I like chillian reds.
Casillero Del Dialo merlot is one of my all time favourites, i am not saying it is the best at all but a lovely bottle
Quiff Wichard
08-12-10, 11:11 AM
alkis all of ya ..
x 2 for you Preston !!
+ 1 for voucher but I would make it for £50 ... after all if it werent for he you would have lost the whole lot. !
Only downside is he'll know you're giving him less than 10%..
...Whereas you can pick up a bottle of corked wine at any price roll it in dust and he'll not give too much thought to the value.
+ 1 for voucher but I would make it for £50 ... after all if it werent for he you would have lost the whole lot. !
I agree with the voucher idea, but don't worry about the value. £20 is a nice guesture and tbh if you're earning ~£250 and he's some manager of a big company as I believe you stated in your other thread then he will understand that you have your limits of what you can afford to give.
10% finders fee my ass IMPO. As much as you're lucky to have regained the money you lost, for quite an easy task that he fulfilled he is earning himself a nice bottle or two of wine.
munkygunn182
08-12-10, 04:37 PM
All problems solved:
Having done some maths and what not, my ~£250 estimate was wrong, instead their was £150 in the envelope, so I felt setting a budget of £20 was pretty reasonable. Having done some reading last night, and later clarifying with shop staff, I opted for a £22 bottle of
"Châteauneuf-du-Pape Domaine du Pere Caboche"
And certainly when I gave him it, there was a big smile on his face, and he was able to talk quite a bit about that particular bottle and how he normally just drinks cheap bottles unless its a business dinner etc etc... so I reckon I had a winner there. :)
All problems solved:
Having done some maths and what not, my ~£250 estimate was wrong, instead their was £150 in the envelope, so I felt setting a budget of £20 was pretty reasonable. Having done some reading last night, and later clarifying with shop staff, I opted for a £22 bottle of
"Châteauneuf-du-Pape Domaine du Pere Caboche"
And certainly when I gave him it, there was a big smile on his face, and he was able to talk quite a bit about that particular bottle and how he normally just drinks cheap bottles unless its a business dinner etc etc... so I reckon I had a winner there. :)
Excellent !
I would rather receive something I like, than a voucher that leaves me with the problem of trying to find something - afterall a voucher is just like money but accepted in less places.
Great choice - I've never had the pleasure of having it, but sounds like something James Bond would ask for. So I'm sure it did the job a treat! :)
Nobbylad
08-12-10, 05:16 PM
Well done mate
Dave20046
08-12-10, 07:37 PM
Happy ending :thumright:
Excellent !
I would rather receive something I like, than a voucher that leaves me with the problem of trying to find something - afterall a voucher is just like money but accepted in less places.
Great choice - I've never had the pleasure of having it, but sounds like something James Bond would ask for. So I'm sure it did the job a treat! :)
100% agree.
Tsk. You shudda gone for the Amarone:D
-Ralph-
08-12-10, 08:04 PM
Nice choice Munkey Gunn!
Had a nice single Rioja during a business lunch at the Royal Exchange in London today, mmmmm. The mezzanine level was closed, but I had specifically booked a table up on the balcony before they decided to close it, so we had exclusive use :D
Calloway Crossing Cabernet Sauvignon Shiraz from Tesco, under a tenner but really tasty.
He did it because he is a genuine nice bloke, you don't have to go expensive to make a nice gesture to say thanks.
He will appreciate the thought, enjoy the wine (no matter of cost) and you will both get a nice feeling that there are people like him who are honest and people like you that still have enough manners to want to thank/reward the honesty.
Note to self: always read the complete thread before posting...as you were.
timwilky
08-12-10, 08:23 PM
I note there a few with my taste in plonk. Notably Nobbylad and Ed.
The owner of a local posh restaurant has a very naughty habit of presenting me with a complementary bottle of a nice expensive wine. She knows damm well that over the next few months I will order quite a few if I like it. Therefore she recovers her costs very quickly. The Amarone she has me on at the moment she is selling for £70 a bottle. So I have to limit myself to one and then onto the Rippassa like the cheapskate I am at restaurant prices.
Especially when the wife has had a glass too many and says lets have another bottle
xXBADGERXx
08-12-10, 11:51 PM
The Nero D`avola in Tescos is quite nice , also my 2 faves at the moment are the Castillo San Lorenzo Rioja (reserva) and the Barbera D`Asti Superiore , both rather nice Reds once you let them breathe for a bit . Morrisons are doing a Châteauneuf-Du-Pape at the moment for £7:50 , not sure which one , but maybe worth a punt .
Noticed you have resolved your choice anyway ;)
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