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Ed
08-12-10, 10:47 AM
Have been thinking on selling the 675, I'd like a Tiger.

Is it worth spending the ad cost and listing fee putting in MCN and on ebay now, given the snow etc? Or best leave it a while?

Will be putting it back to stock so if any of the Triumph club on here would be interested in the bits off of it then PM - shorty titanium colour Pazzos (NOT the Chinese stuff!!!!), TOR can, aero screen, gel seat, T3 bungs.

Opinions on timing please...

Owenski
08-12-10, 10:58 AM
mines on ebay again, based on it been explained to me that;

If you're selling and buying 2nd hand then the value you'd lose on selling yours this time of year you'd save on buying at this time of year so its swings and roundabouts. The only draw back is the dip in market activity, not many people are in a position to be buying themselves a nice toy this time of year so you wont have as much interest as in spring for example but then again... you're looking to buy & sell, Im looking to buy and sell so we cant be the only people out there doing it.

Thats my optomisic view atm anyway, ask me again on sunday night when my auction finishes.

G
08-12-10, 11:02 AM
Have been thinking on selling the 675, I'd like a Tiger.

Is it worth spending the ad cost and listing fee putting in MCN and on ebay now, given the snow etc? Or best leave it a while?

Will be putting it back to stock so if any of the Triumph club on here would be interested in the bits off of it then PM - shorty titanium colour Pazzos (NOT the Chinese stuff!!!!), TOR can, aero screen, gel seat, T3 bungs.

Opinions on timing please...

Short answer... no not really.

I had my 2006 CBR600RR up forsale at £3000 as I just wanted it gone. £3000 is well under all the guide prices. It was up for over a month at this price with no interest at all.

In the end i traded it in for £4000, which goes to show just how low I had it priced and it still didn't move.

Have you considered trading it in against the tiger? The thing you have in your favour is your 675 is the Ltd edition which is pretty awesome and may make it easier to shift.

Also consider advertising on Pistonheads Classifieds as its FREE.

A

andrewsmith
08-12-10, 11:19 AM
Ed if it a LE 675 (guessing the white with blue frame) see what the Triumph dealers will offer.
As the last few Triumphs LE's at main dealers went for a premium over list.

What you fancying next?

Ed
08-12-10, 11:24 AM
Ed if it a LE 675 (guessing the white with blue frame) see what the Triumph dealers will offer.
As the last few Triumphs LE's at main dealers went for a premium over list.

What you fancying next?

No, 'tis a Masterbike. It was 1 of 100 that Triumph made to celebrate being voted Sportsbike of the year in 2006 and 2007. It's a 2008 reg. And it came with loads of carbon.

I'd like a Tiger 1050 but whether I can afford one is another matter. That's why I'd like the £££ rather than PX so I can drive a better deal.

andrewsmith
08-12-10, 11:39 AM
No, 'tis a Masterbike. It was 1 of 100 that Triumph made to celebrate being voted Sportsbike of the year in 2006 and 2007. It's a 2008 reg. And it came with loads of carbon.

I'd like a Tiger 1050 but whether I can afford one is another matter. That's why I'd like the £££ rather than PX so I can drive a better deal.

Its a rare beast so you may still get a good price PX, but that depends upon the dealer.
If you go this month you'll be able haggle a lot as everywhere is dead, best to go see what they say.

Owenski
08-12-10, 11:46 AM
The current part ex value of my 07plate SV is £1200 thanks to its CAT D record £1800 if it was a clean example.

Specialone
08-12-10, 06:55 PM
No, 'tis a Masterbike. It was 1 of 100 that Triumph made to celebrate being voted Sportsbike of the year in 2006 and 2007. It's a 2008 reg. And it came with loads of carbon.

I'd like a Tiger 1050 but whether I can afford one is another matter. That's why I'd like the £££ rather than PX so I can drive a better deal.

Ed imo the dealers will be bending over backwards atm to shift bikes so you wont need cash to get a better deal, go speak to them, that dont cost nothing.

Btw, get a sprint instead ;)

steveg
09-12-10, 08:47 AM
I recently got a really good deal from Triumph dealer , recon would be a great time to get a good deal with the weather and runup to Christmas

Only downside is you want to use the bike this weather is keeping it clean , but this does not bother me as a tool for getting to work

Go have a look and treat yourself :)

Get a sprint +1 , well at least give one a test ride

Cheers Steve

G
09-12-10, 10:34 AM
I got a good deal at a dealer. You should try it, you might be suprised.

Ed
09-12-10, 10:45 AM
I'm trying on here first:D

http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=160503

wyrdness
09-12-10, 10:47 AM
No, 'tis a Masterbike. It was 1 of 100 that Triumph made to celebrate being voted Sportsbike of the year in 2006 and 2007. It's a 2008 reg. And it came with loads of carbon.

I'd like a Tiger 1050 but whether I can afford one is another matter. That's why I'd like the £££ rather than PX so I can drive a better deal.

Might be selling my Tiger 1050. I was going to keep it until the Spring, but I'm open to offers. It's some distance from you though.

andreis
09-12-10, 02:02 PM
Btw, get a sprint instead ;)

I'm so jealous... Ripped between a sprint and a tiger 1050. I actually hear the tiger is more sporty (better brakes, hp to weight, torque to weight etc) but can not not love the way the sprint looks...

Regarding the decision to wait or not, the real question is what happens to the bike you want to buy in relation to the one you have and where does the purchasing & selling take place. What I mean is, my SV, in my country, would be worth around 1500 Euro at the lowest in winter, and a 1750 at the highest in spring. So, I get a 250Euro difference.

I want to buy a Tiger 1050 ABS as well (okay, there's a VERY slim chance the sprint will sway me over), from Italy. The thing is, the price difference between winter and spring prices is generally a percentage one. So, if a tiger is at it's lowest in winter at some 7000Euro, it will be around 7500-7800Euro in spring. So there's a 500-800Euro difference.

I suspect there's a good chance to correctly weigh the decision as such : if your bike at the moment is more expensive than the one you want to buy, you should wait till spring; if it's the other way around, you should do the move now. Simples :)

-Ralph-
09-12-10, 11:09 PM
Andreis, Sprint is definitely quicker than the Tiger, I've had the two side by side when both riders were caning it and the Sprint sailed past and away at the wrong side of 100mph, and also ridden both bikes back to back. Triumph claim a 10bhp power and a 4kg wet weight advantage, and at silly speeds the Sprint has an aerodynamic advantage too. Sprint definitely the sportier bike to ride.

Tiger still a beautiful bike though, and with your average rider on an average A or B road, you'd not be able to say one bike would get down it any quicker than the other. Ed won't be disappointed. The only thing I found difficult to get used to was how far away and in front of me the front wheel was, due to the length of the front forks, but that feeling would disappear within a day or so.

Specialone
09-12-10, 11:23 PM
Andreis, Sprint is definitely quicker than the Tiger, I've had the two side by side when both riders were caning it and the Sprint sailed past and away at the wrong side of 100mph, and also ridden both bikes back to back. Triumph claim a 10bhp power and a 4kg wet weight advantage, and at silly speeds the Sprint has an aerodynamic advantage too. Sprint definitely the sportier bike to ride.

Tiger still a beautiful bike though, and with your average rider on an average A or B road, you'd not be able to say one bike would get down it any quicker than the other. Ed won't be disappointed. The only thing I found difficult to get used to was how far away and in front of me the front wheel was, due to the length of the front forks, but that feeling would disappear within a day or so.

I also rode both on full day test rides a week apart and I concur, the sprints are quicker, especially when getting into silly speeds.

Smudge
10-12-10, 12:18 AM
I've just recently bought an S4 for £2500 and on ebay theres a couple of the same year and mileage for £3500 so prices seem to be all over the place all the time. but i do think more bikes get sold out of winter.

andreis
10-12-10, 10:24 AM
I also rode both on full day test rides a week apart and I concur, the sprints are quicker, especially when getting into silly speeds.

I guess you're right.. Unfortunately I wouldn't know.. But I guess they're both fast enough for actual roads (just like 90% of bikes out there) and can haul pillion and luggage no trouble what so ever. From the stats that I saw on the internetz, the tiger was rated at 229kg wet, sprint 242kg. With rider (say 80kg) you get some 309 and 322 and that means 0.37 and 0.395, so they get close. The sprint does have a great aerodynamic advantage though and that comes in strongly at higher speeds..

Ralph, you say you had some hard time adapting to the distance to the front wheel on the tiger... Is it vertigo type of height? Oh, and did you already decide on a sprint?

I'm asking because I have a riser kit on my SV (self made) and I'm pretty much sitting bolt upright. The distance to the front wheel is much greater than before, but considering the type of roads I encounter in real life, I'm kinda glad it's that way. So would you consider the large distance to the front wheel detrimental or is it just something that's different from what you were used to and had to accommodate?

-Ralph-
10-12-10, 10:39 AM
I guess you're right.. Unfortunately I wouldn't know.. But I guess they're both fast enough for actual roads (just like 90% of bikes out there) and can haul pillion and luggage no trouble what so ever. From the stats that I saw on the internetz, the tiger was rated at 229kg wet, sprint 242kg. With rider (say 80kg) you get some 309 and 322 and that means 0.37 and 0.395, so they get close. The sprint does have a great aerodynamic advantage though and that comes in strongly at higher speeds..

Ralph, you say you had some hard time adapting to the distance to the front wheel on the tiger... Is it vertigo type of height? Oh, and did you already decide on a sprint?

I'm asking because I have a riser kit on my SV (self made) and I'm pretty much sitting bolt upright. The distance to the front wheel is much greater than before, but considering the type of roads I encounter in real life, I'm kinda glad it's that way. So would you consider the large distance to the front wheel detrimental or is it just something that's different from what you were used to and had to accommodate?

Don't trust statistics from random internet websites, the correct weights are listed on Truimph's website. 245kg wet for the Tiger, 241 for the Sprint.

I've wanted a Sprint for a couple of years now, but I have an ergonomic issue, though I'm hoping to resolve that with a custom seat. I'll be trying Specialone's Sprint for size soon, to see if what I want to with the seat will work do will work.

Distance to the front wheel wasn't vertigo, just that they are long forks on a tall bike, and the front wheel was further from my hands than I was used to. Made tight manoeuvres require a little more concentration and thought. I ride a 600cc trailie so I'm used to long forks, but with a 21 inch front wheel, which feels different again.

G
10-12-10, 11:40 AM
Is the Sprint not more of a high speed european tourer and the Tiger more of a fun in the twisties tourer.

I've not tried either but from the marketing thats what I understood.

andreis
10-12-10, 11:41 AM
Don't trust statistics from random internet websites, the correct weights are listed on Truimph's website. 245kg wet for the Tiger, 241 for the Sprint.

But I was using those quoted on the official Triumph site (and they were backed up by the weighings of various magazines). Here's the official site specs : http://www.triumphmotorcycles.co.uk/motorcycles/range/adventure/tiger/2011/tiger-1050/specifications
The 245kg you're referring to is the weight of the 1050 SE, which is weighed with panniers on. The weight without panniers and ABS is 228kg. The ABS adds 5 kg and 12kg comes from the rest.


I've wanted a Sprint for a couple of years now, but I have an ergonomic issue, though I'm hoping to resolve that with a custom seat. I'll be trying Specialone's Sprint for size soon, to see if what I want to with the seat will work do will work.
.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you on that one. I've seen your thread on the matter. I can assure you that the modifications you need are very easy to do. I've modified a seat which I bought as an extra to my SV so that it would fit my gf, who is a bit shorter. Once I took off the vinyl cover, the job of carving into the foam was really easy and actually fun. I imagine, for your job, you just need to purchase some foam so that you can raise the initial height and then work from there, creating the shape you need.
The fact is, I imagine a lot of people would much more easily find bikes that suit them perfectly if they were to work on the position a bit more, which is really easy to do.

Sorry Ed, :offtopic: , I know

-Ralph-
10-12-10, 11:41 AM
Every time I see this thread come up in the subcribed list, I read

"Is it worth trying to sell snow?"

:lol:

andreis
10-12-10, 11:48 AM
+1 :santa:

-Ralph-
10-12-10, 11:48 AM
But I was using those quoted on the official Triumph site (and they were backed up by the weighings of various magazines). Here's the official site specs : http://www.triumphmotorcycles.co.uk/motorcycles/range/adventure/tiger/2011/tiger-1050/specifications
The 245kg you're referring to is the weight of the 1050 SE, which is weighed with panniers on. The weight without panniers and ABS is 228kg. The ABS adds 5 kg and 12kg comes from the rest.

:notworthy:

Ed
10-12-10, 12:37 PM
Hey none of this is off topic as far as I'm concerned, I'm enjoying this debate, as I simply love Triumph triples. There's something about a triple... the smothness, the howl....:cool::cool::cool::cool: Next bike is between a Sprint and a Tiger, I like them both for different reasons.

We need to persuade Triumph to put on a demo day someplace handy for all of us, and for them to bring every single model they make:cool:

Lots of Kleenex required:lol:

andreis
10-12-10, 12:59 PM
Hey none of this is off topic as far as I'm concerned, I'm enjoying this debate, as I simply love Triumph triples. There's something about a triple... the smothness, the howl....:cool::cool::cool::cool: Next bike is between a Sprint and a Tiger, I like them both for different reasons.

We need to persuade Triumph to put on a demo day someplace handy for all of us, and for them to bring every single model they make:cool:

Lots of Kleenex required:lol:

I say we vote on it! Too late, we're all in agreement anyway :D

I've only heard Triumphs in videos and all the reviews... The jap engines I've got to try out in real life.. But the triples elude me still. Hope I get my hands on them in spring. And then lots of pr0n will be filmed and many many wonderful stories written on the subject :cool:

Specialone
10-12-10, 09:24 PM
Is the Sprint not more of a high speed european tourer and the Tiger more of a fun in the twisties tourer.

I've not tried either but from the marketing thats what I understood.

Im no rossi as you know G, but i rode both and felt the sprint dropped in corners easier and felt more at home to my riding style, but im not saying a tiger in better hands couldnt hold its own, far from it.
Going faster it does require a bit more effort though.
I took the tiger on all type of roads even mways, i found it very noisy and i got blown around a hell of a lot at 90 mph+ whereas the sprint felt / feels really comfortable at speeds well above that.

-Ralph-
10-12-10, 09:37 PM
The Tiger can hustle just as well as the Sprint, you just need to be used to the height, wider bars, upright position, etc, etc. An ST would feel more natural when coming off an SV.

The Tiger is blowy and noisy, but a blade screen like this sorts it out nicely,

http://www.sportouring.com/itemImages/image/40399.JPG

Kilted Ginger's Tiger has one and it is serene at speed, whereas the standard demonstrator I rode wasn't. But as Specialone says it's only above 90-100mph that it becomes a problem, and you don't spend long cruising at that speed unless your in Germany!

hardhat_harry
10-12-10, 10:26 PM
Street Triple R?? Daytona without the wrist pain

Owenski
12-12-10, 01:36 PM
1hr to go on my ebay listing -
22 watchers currently
405 views,
start price £1900
for a K6 on a 2007 plate with full SH

NO BIDS!
if someone bids now they get a fecking steal.

Specialone
12-12-10, 01:50 PM
Yeah hurry up and sell that now matt, been long enough :)

Owenski
12-12-10, 01:54 PM
Yeah hurry up and sell that now matt, been long enough :)

Tell me about it!
Desperate for it to sell too mate - got my eye on either of these:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270674784945&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180595496895&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

especially as I've had to see this go by :(

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130459984549&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Owenski
12-12-10, 02:15 PM
that message from you col?

Specialone
12-12-10, 02:36 PM
Not keen on the relentless graphics on the 2nd one tbh, bit too 'busy',it looks like a front brake mod on that one too cos the disc look massive.

Owenski
12-12-10, 03:08 PM
I like the rockstar graphics and I'd be getting a 2nd set of plastics to use a set for off roading in this case it would be the relentless ones used off road as I agree, they look a bit OTT.
Not that it matters much as my SV has failed to sell :( bummer.

-Ralph-
12-12-10, 04:01 PM
that message from you col?

My Nigerian brother wanted to export it in 8 months time ;)

Owenski
12-12-10, 05:15 PM
lol, I answered it and then read it was from an ebay member called col**** and thought hmmmmmmmmm it was a bit of a dodgy question, best ask.

Gutted it didnt sell, those 2 DRZ's are perfect for what Im after.