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missyburd
10-12-10, 10:50 PM
...a set up?
Why on earth would any security escort in their right mind drive the two of them directly through a riot - when they could have taken any number of less attention grabbing routes - and not check all the windows were up before doing so? Were they all drunk/asleep?
Talk about asking for trouble, makes you wonder if it was a setup to make the protesters look even worse...
Anyone want to chuck their twopence in?**
** that's into the thread...not the car...:lol:
OH and what should they ACTUALLY be chauffeured about in, just for sugars and giggles :-P
I was half-wondering whether there was some sort of conspiracy - the violent ones are plants to make the genuine protestors look bad :p
hardhat_harry
10-12-10, 11:17 PM
Regent Street is nowhere near the place were the main protest was happening. It was one groups that broke away when the kettling started.
The police say they checked the route minutes prior to the arrival of the car but it sounds like it was planned by the more radical class war protestors. It would have been easy to blend into the crowd of Xmas shoppers in that area and lie in wait.
andrewsmith
10-12-10, 11:27 PM
seems a bit odd that the met said it was safe 3 minutes earlier for all hell to break loose.
A security expert had a good quote!
Any thing more than paint being thrown would have resulted in a fatality
...and 9/11 was planned by the CIA.
I think it was pure stupidity by them and their security, with a touch of arrogance thrown in for good measure.
To me, that picture doesn't show goat face scared; she looks astounded that anyone would dare to do such a thing to them. And why on earth was their window wound down? Did they think people were there to shake their hand? Even the police can be heard telling them to wind it up!
I can't understand the extent of the outrage. They went there; what did they expect?
Seems that coppers policing the march and the coppers escorting the Royals were using different radio frequencies :rolleyes:
I hope that stupid twonk Glimour Jnr gets the book lobbed at him for defiling the Senotaph. To think that it commemorates those who died defending the freedoms he now enjoys. Makes my blood boil :evil:
Oh, and he's a History student. Says it all.
-Ralph-
11-12-10, 08:25 AM
They should have been in a Merc saloon with blacked out windows, not a Rolls Royce state car. They were being transported to the theatre, not on a parade.
-Ralph-
11-12-10, 08:37 AM
They should have been in a Merc saloon with blacked out windows, not a Rolls Royce state car. They were being transported to the theatre, not on a parade.
Alternatively...
http://www.enchanted-rose.org/sleepingbeauty/shrek2_01.png
Specialone
11-12-10, 08:46 AM
You are discussing the police angle, why they done this and that, what we should be discussing is the ****ing scum who done the damage to the royals car and how they should be severly beaten and reminded that they would have beheaded not to long ago had they tried that **** back then.
I've got nothing but contempt for them and I know one thing, people say soccer hooligans are scum but they would never have attacked a war memorial or a royal family member.
-Ralph-
11-12-10, 08:48 AM
You are discussing the police angle, why they done this and that, what we should be discussing is the ****ing scum
But they weren't scum! They were innocent actors employed by Scotland Yard ;)
Specialone
11-12-10, 08:51 AM
But they weren't scum! They were innocent actors employed by Scotland Yard ;)
Yeah right and the missile that hit the pentagon was really a plane ;)
You are discussing the police angle, why they done this and that, what we should be discussing is the ****ing scum who done the damage to the royals car and how they should be severly beaten and reminded that they would have beheaded not to long ago had they tried that **** back then.
I've got nothing but contempt for them and I know one thing, people say soccer hooligans are scum but they would never have attacked a war memorial or a royal family member.
Really? I mean, REALLY???
tactcom7
11-12-10, 09:56 AM
+1 to special one's comments. It shouldn't matter whether view were in an APC or pulled through the streets on the back of a low loader for all the world to see. The fact is view should not have been attacked. IMHO if you throw something hard enough to smash an reinforced glass window then you threw it with enough force to kill and should be done for attempted murder. Same with the bloke who threw the fire extinguisher.
Oh and i'll be the first to volunteer for Senotaph duty.
Specialone
11-12-10, 10:02 AM
Really? I mean, REALLY???
Actually considering I know a lot of them, they are deeply patriotic unlike the son of pink floyd what ever is name is hanging off the flag protesting about uni fees who has never wanted for anything in his life and would not have to pay his own uni fees, what a knob.
yorkie_chris
11-12-10, 10:04 AM
+1 to special one's comments. It shouldn't matter whether view were in an APC or pulled through the streets on the back of a low loader for all the world to see. The fact is view should not have been attacked. IMHO if you throw something hard enough to smash an reinforced glass window then you threw it with enough force to kill and should be done for attempted murder. Same with the bloke who threw the fire extinguisher.
Oh and i'll be the first to volunteer for Senotaph duty.
These idiots attack the royal family and the Senotaph, both important symbols of British democracy and freedom, they're obviously some sort of commies who deserve a visit to Big Bubba...
............. And why on earth was their window wound down?................
To let the smell out. I hear Camilia has a er "trumpet" problem.
.........I've got nothing but contempt for them and I know one thing, people say soccer hooligans are scum but they would never have attacked a war memorial or a royal family member.
Come............on...............you.............. ...Irons.
We need the points.
punyXpress
11-12-10, 12:36 PM
Some of the vitriol screamed during the camera shot was very reminiscent of the darker days of the French Revolution!
Since you ask: no, I wasn't actually there - France that is. ;)
yorkie_chris
11-12-10, 12:41 PM
Some of the vitriol screamed during the camera shot was very reminiscent of the darker days of the French Revolution!
Since you ask: no, I wasn't actually there - France that is. ;)
I did hear a bit of "off with their heads" on the video... I thought they were taking the **** to be honest but probably a bad thing to shout to an angry mob
Owenski
11-12-10, 12:52 PM
You are discussing the police angle, why they done this and that, what we should be discussing is the ****ing scum who done the damage to the royals car and how they should be severly beaten and reminded that they would have beheaded not to long ago had they tried that **** back then.
I've got nothing but contempt for them and I know one thing, people say soccer hooligans are scum but they would never have attacked a war memorial or a royal family member.
PHEW!
I thought it was gonna go overlooked, I cant belive it took people a page to turn their attention to the disgraceful scum who were surrounding the car!
Shouting "off with their heads" and hurling objects at the car
Its inexcusable, the one remaining aspect of our former great Britain, the family who form the figured head of a country we should be greatful gives us the freedoms of University and education. This blatent disrespect and violence towards them just appitomises how spoilt and ungreatful we've become.
Properly sickens me.
Mob mentality my ass, seeing that level of security and the royal flag should instantly sedate any individual not antagonise them into a voilent rage. Secruity team did VERY well not to draw arms IMO.
yorkie_chris
11-12-10, 12:58 PM
This blatent disrespect and violence towards them just appitomises how spoilt and ungreatful we've become.
Properly sickens me.
"We've become"
Well, for one thing speak for yourself, for another this is nothing new.
There have been distasteful elements of society for as long as there has been society, during the darkest days of WW2 when freedom was actually threatened from outside (rather than by "our" own government under the pretence of non-threats), there were British nazis. When the threat was Russia, there were British communists aiming to create an oppressive Britain (most of those are now still in the labour party ;)).
I'd bet money that when the French revolution was going on there were anti-royalists here who would have liked to see the same thing happen here.
I would agree that it is rather unwise to attack a car protected by armed guards with paint. Though to be honest attacking any car innocently driving past in the street should have attached to it a strong chance of getting shot!
Owenski
11-12-10, 01:13 PM
"We've become"
Well, for one thing speak for yourself, for another this is nothing new.
lol fair one,
"some have become"
I would agree that it is rather unwise to attack a car protected by armed guards with paint. Though to be honest attacking any car innocently driving past in the street should have attached to it a strong chance of getting shot!
Not that the US should really be used as a good example, but imagine the scene had this happened over there with the trigger happy.
Regents street would have been like a river of student soup.
MisterTommyH
11-12-10, 01:39 PM
And if the royal protection officers had actually drawn their weapons they would have been criticised for over reacting.
No matter what happened here the police would have done wrong. (The first riot they weren't prepared, the latest they over reacted).
Had someone got shot there would have been cries of "so a royal life is more important that a students?".
It wasn't a set-up and you can't shut down the whole of London just because a few idiots are 'protesting' half a mile away.
Had someone got shot there would have been cries of "so a royal life is more important that a students?".
If a protester had been shot I'd have seen it as the officer concerned doing the job he has been trained and is paid to do. I'm pretty gutted none of the protesters were shot and killed because launching an attack like that on the car was life threatening and those officers are deployed to protect the lives of the Royals in that car.
It shouldn't have to come down to a Royal being killed before action can be taken. Clearly the attackers were not friendly and were shouting slogans like "off with their heads" and suchlike while trying to smash windows - in those circumstances the Police should be allowed to pre-empt a strike and move in to take out the attackers and keep them out with whatever force or weapons are required.
yorkie_chris
11-12-10, 04:37 PM
in those circumstances the Police should be allowed to pre-empt a strike and move in to take out the attackers and keep them out with whatever force or weapons are required.
Which they obviously managed to do without resorting to mowing people down with automatic weapons in a crowded street.
Throwing paint would be a bit of a small crime to get shot for, but whoever threw the brick or whatever I could understand if they were shot in the process of doing it, who was to know it was not a grenade or something.
I don't see why you would be gutted someone was not killed. There was nothing to be gained from it, every chance that it would have led to a massively increased mob effect and more violence, then or soon after. Plus the very likely chance that a stray round or one going straight through would take out some other poor bugger who was just walking down the street.
Biker Biggles
11-12-10, 04:38 PM
No way would they open fire unless it was absolutely clear that someone was about to kill the occupants.They would not have had a clear target with no one else in the line of fire.A far more likely outcome in those circumstances would be someone getting run over by the car or its escort as it sped away.
Still a very dodgy situation which should never have been allowed to develop.There will be some red faces at the Met.
Shot them all, that's what I say.
At the very least, anyone arrested and found guilty of a disorder offence should be immediately banned from ever entering any university, no matter what the charge or the sentence.
dizzyblonde
11-12-10, 04:45 PM
To let the smell out. I hear Camilia has a er "trumpet" problem.
http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2010/12/10/1225968/738704-charles-protest.jpg
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OMG Big ears, thats a feckin ripper, even I can't stand it, one will have to open a window:smt039
maviczap
11-12-10, 05:42 PM
No way would they open fire unless it was absolutely clear that someone was about to kill the occupants.They would not have had a clear target with no one else in the line of fire.A far more likely outcome in those circumstances would be someone getting run over by the car or its escort as it sped away.
Still a very dodgy situation which should never have been allowed to develop.There will be some red faces at the Met.
Seems like it was a close call for Camila, as one of the protesters managed to poke her with a stick, as stupidly she'd opened her window.
Imagine if it had been a spear, things could have been very different.
Head of Royal protection squad will be moved on to save face at the Met.
missyburd
11-12-10, 08:26 PM
http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2010/12/10/1225968/738704-charles-protest.jpg
I see at least two faces reflected in that there glass, find them AND SHOOT THEM DOWN!!!
Slight overreaction or no? :-P
Also, Charles appears to have has literal laser surgery, he's blatantly trying to sort the hooligans out by his own powers of destruction :-D
Seems like it was a close call for Camila, as one of the protesters managed to poke her with a stick, as stupidly she'd opened her window.
She likes a good poke from all accounts!
In todays paper
On Thursday night, Gilmour's mother posted a message on her Tw4tter account saying: 'Son in a mess after day at protests. Battered and bleeding with smashed phone. Not making much sense. Am fearful.'
Maybe she should be more worried about him being a total W*nk3r, abusing the memory of the dead and taking hard core drugs! What next? Mowing a biker down when drunk in a high powered car!
All allegedly of course.
(http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1337506/Tuition-fee-riot-Charlie-Gilmour-mob-surrounded-Charles-Camillas-car.html#ixzz17q3wNvqz)
madnlooney
12-12-10, 02:09 PM
is it not the universities which make the decision to increase the fees where the government have only allowed them to do it? why are they not smashing universities up?
maviczap
12-12-10, 02:17 PM
is it not the universities which make the decision to increase the fees where the government have only allowed them to do it? why are they not smashing universities up?
Don't be silly then they'ed get banned from somewhere where they can doss about all day ;)
Plus the student bar would be closed, no cheap drink ;)
maviczap
12-12-10, 02:18 PM
In todays paper
On Thursday night, Gilmour's mother posted a message on her Tw4tter account saying: 'Son in a mess after day at protests. Battered and bleeding with smashed phone. Not making much sense. Am fearful.'
Maybe she should be more worried about him being a total W*nk3r, abusing the memory of the dead and taking hard core drugs! What next? Mowing a biker down when drunk in a high powered car!
All allegedly of course.
Yes he was completely bat faced when he was interviewed, little ****:evil:
yorkie_chris
12-12-10, 03:52 PM
is it not the universities which make the decision to increase the fees where the government have only allowed them to do it? why are they not smashing universities up?
Because the government cutting the universities funding means they'll have no choice.
Update (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Man-Is-Arrested-After-Police-Release-Images-Of-14-People-Wanted-Over-Student-Fees-Protest-Violence/Article/201012215852052?lpos=UK_News_News_Your_Way_Region_ 5&lid=NewsYourWay_ARTICLE_15852052_Man_Is_Arrested_A fter_Police_Release_Images_Of_14_People_Wanted_Ove r_Student_Fees_Protest_Violence)
The weasel with the home done heart tattoo on his face should be fairly easy to find.
arenalife
13-12-10, 08:18 AM
It's not the first time Charlie has been accosted by moody students, remember this gunman in Australia? Charles was cool as ice (or poop-scared), if he hadn't tripped he'd surely have got the gun in his face before the protection officer got there. It was blanks apparently.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XF5wrFJp9Jo
davepreston
13-12-10, 09:40 AM
heres some info for you reguarding the protection details sops
1/ why drive them thru a riot,
strangly this may actually be a safer option ,all routes taken are subject to a reveiw by the team with such things as choke points escape routes and even width of road taken into account, the roads around the area may have been a bigger threat in a worst case senario
2/ shooting the protester who threw the can
there is a limited time when you can shoot someone throwing a object eg grenade etc that is when the have the item in the trowing motion so from arm back about to throw to release of object is valid before and after are not as they are not concidered a threat before and after release there threat is concidered ended, this comes under the rules of engagement and the officer would be done for murder if he shot someone outside this miniscule amaount of time, dont you just love how fine the line is
-Ralph-
13-12-10, 11:11 AM
the officer would be done for murder if he shot someone outside this miniscule amaount of time, dont you just love how fine the line is
This does assume that out of the aftermath, somebody who wants to see the officer prosecuted can prove exactly when the shot was fired. ;)
... they would have beheaded not to long ago had they tried that **** back then.
Or ended up on the throne if you go back far enough... :cyclops:
punyXpress
13-12-10, 01:10 PM
Big Ears doesn't have a lot of luck with his chicks driving around big cities, does He ? ;)
-Ralph-
13-12-10, 02:03 PM
Big Ears doesn't have a lot of luck with his chicks driving around big cities, does He ? ;)
Can you imagine Camilla speeding through Paris in a black Merc, driven by a drunk bodyguard, whilst clinging onto Dodi Fayed? She'd need to have been on the coke first. :rolleyes:
-Ralph-
13-12-10, 02:05 PM
Having said that can you imagine any man wanting to swap Diana for Camilla? :smt021
SoulKiss
13-12-10, 08:09 PM
Having said that can you imagine any man wanting to swap Diana for Camilla? :smt021
Well I doubt that Camilla has sh***ed half the British Army, look at Harry then at Major James Hewitt - oh wait...
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070629004746/uncyclopedia/images/1/14/Harryhewitt.jpg
Oh and while his dads a foreigner, I doubt that Charlie is with Camilla cos he's hoping she can score a Green Card for him...
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