View Full Version : Datatool alarm; no response to fob.
Jimmy2Feet
08-01-11, 09:16 AM
hi guys and gals,
Sorry for this, i know there is several thread's about alarms, and datatools in particular!
But i have not long had this bike (september) and never had an alarm. (on a bike)
Since end of november, i have had the bike covered up, and not really used it much, baybe 3 times something like that. get up this morning deciding that it might be nice to ride to work and the dam thing wont disarm!!
Pressed the button on the fob and nothing. I know it is not the fob as i have tried the spare as well, and the LED on the fob flashed.
Tried moving the bike and the motion sensor sounded a couple of times so the alarm is active, and i would be supprised if it is the battery as fitted a brand new one in october, and there is enough power in it to keep alarm armed so surley should be able to disarm it. also being that when the last battery died on me i was able to arm and disarm the alarm with no problems, and i know that the battery was as flat as a pancake!
I have had a read through a few threads on this and have seen that some people have had fuse go, but would this allow the motion sensor to still be active? and even if this is the case what would have caused the fues to go!
The only thing i can think is that i run the power hose over her every time i ride whilst roads as salty, water shouldn't get into sensor and screw it over should it?
Also i know that you can do a manual overide with a code, but i cant find a code in any of the paperwork, any ideas how i can get this?
any other ideas appreciated!
Cheers in advance
check fuse, alam has a back up battery so will still work mine had a coroded power wire thats where my probs started, i removed mine and neer looked back
:smt067DATATOOL
Could be the fuses. The manual override may not be set but contact the previous owner to see if they have the number. I would set the alarm off and try and get it into a different mode. Although a lot of people don't rate alarms, if it is already fitted then it can be a pain to remove. There is an antispike procedure which may also cure this.
I have the instructions etc for the Datatool 3 on PDF. If you want a copy just PM me your email address.
Amplimator
08-01-11, 10:18 AM
If in doubt, rip it out!
Jimmy2Feet
08-01-11, 10:23 AM
i have all the instructions etc for it, but it doesn't tell me all that much is the one you have quite detailed?
i didn't realise that it has a back up battery, i will try the fuse when home then.
I liked the idea of the alarm as the bike is not in a garage, but it was by no stretch of the imagination the selling point for me. But i have to say it is starting to annoy me already!!
i have all the instructions etc for it, but it doesn't tell me all that much is the one you have quite detailed?
I have the Operating Instructions, the key fob reprogramming instructions and the draining instructions (spiked). My bike sits outside under a cover and the alarm only played up when the bike battery died at -12.5 degrees. A new battery later, it is OK.
Dave Mac
08-01-11, 10:40 AM
i had one i ended up getting a blanking plug for it and removing the alarm and inserting the blanking plug, they are about £5 from a dealer.
you will prob find it has drained your battery, they are a strong drain and will drain it in about 2 weeks if your not lucky
Jimmy2Feet
08-01-11, 10:50 AM
I have the Operating Instructions, the key fob reprogramming instructions and the draining instructions (spiked). My bike sits outside under a cover and the alarm only played up when the bike battery died at -12.5 degrees. A new battery later, it is OK.
Just sent PM
Alarm will have gone to sleep mode after 10-14 days. Turning the ignition on with the key, then press the arm/disarm button on the fob should clear it.
Just sent PM
PDF's sent by email. If they don't show let me know and I will put them up on my server and send you an internet link to download.
Good luck.
Jimmy2Feet
08-01-11, 11:47 AM
cheers mate will look and let you know. I will try the sleep mode things as well, wasn't aware that was the case with datatool alarms
Jimmy2Feet
08-01-11, 11:51 AM
yep cheers, got the email with PDF's ok. lets see what i can do tonight!!
Sid Squid
08-01-11, 06:22 PM
The alarm has gone to sleep, this is quite normal and is a feature of many alarms.
It does this after a given period, a number of weeks is normal, and it's purpose is to save battery power when the machine is unused for longer periods.
Switch on ignition and off again immeditely the alarm will sound so have your finger ready on the fob button, silence the alarm with the off button. Alarm sleep mode will now be reset.
No need to do anything daft like 'ripping it out'.
Jimmy2Feet
10-01-11, 11:10 AM
didn't get the chance over weekend to try the sleep mode thing. But it does make sense that it will be like that. i will take it out next weekend if weather ok! so will try then
fizzwheel
10-01-11, 11:16 AM
The datatool system 4 on Liz's Ducati does that. Follow what Sid is suggesting and it'll sort you out.
ThEGr33k
10-01-11, 12:10 PM
Have a look in the Fob, is it certainly a good one? You got another to test it?
I had a fob that stopped working, one of the battery terminals had pulled out, I soldered it back in and all is bang on again.
Jimmy2Feet
10-01-11, 02:19 PM
Have a look in the Fob, is it certainly a good one? You got another to test it?
I had a fob that stopped working, one of the battery terminals had pulled out, I soldered it back in and all is bang on again.
yeah i have 2 and neither worked, my fobs (not sure if this is all datatools or not) is a kind of clear plastic with a LED in so it lights up when i press the button.
I am sure after reading posts on here and looking over another forum that it must have got to sleep. If i remember i will try it tonight and let you all know.
andrewsmith
10-01-11, 06:00 PM
yeah i have 2 and neither worked, my fobs (not sure if this is all datatools or not) is a kind of clear plastic with a LED in so it lights up when i press the button.
I am sure after reading posts on here and looking over another forum that it must have got to sleep. If i remember i will try it tonight and let you all know.
Yeah they are the datatool items.
I'm not a fan of alarms (esp factory fits), but try what SS suggested as that normally works.
If you've got HISS/ SIAS or similar (immobilizers factory fit) on the bike, the alarms are normally linked to it and take patience to disarm
Sid Squid
10-01-11, 06:36 PM
If the fob lights up the batteries are good enough to control the alarm, albeit the range may be reduced if the batteries are very low.
But I still reckon the alarm is having a kip.
Simesby is right, it's in sleep mode, I know ecsuse I have this problem all the time!
You can clear it by yes, turning the ignition on and then cancelling and that's the best way if the battery has drained too low (the datatool alarms go in to sleep mode when the battery voltage hits a certain voltage).
The correct way is to hold down the fob button (can't remember if it's the left or right button) down until it bleeps.
The correct way is to hold down the fob button (can't remember if it's the left or right button) down until it bleeps.
when the system goes to sleep the LED blinks once every 10s (somthing like that), when it flashes the receiver will be enabled so you can deactivate that way if you want, if you dont care making a short bit of noise then turn the bike on as the receiver turns on straight away
note this sleep is on datatool S3
the S4 systems have a deeper sleep mode plus a complete sleep mode (manualy actvated) that turns the whole unit off and only deactivates with key and remote, this is good for long term storage or battery off bike where you dont mind no tilt sensor warnings
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