Steering damper needed on SV?

[sv650ollie]

Hello all .
I have just brought my first big bike (sv650 1999 red ) .
I am currently only 16 as i am waiting till im 17 to restrict it.
In the meanwhile im going to buy the parts i like to make it just how i want :)
Anyway
i have seen a steering damper on another sv650 . and i was wondering whether they make a great diffrence .

Many thanks
Ollie

[andrewsmith]

Don't need one a on a 650.
Would make a small difference, but that money is best spent on petrol.

[sv650ollie]

Okay cheers buddy .
Il just spend the money tarting it up then :p

Ollie

[jambo]

SV doesn't need a steering damper.
Or, in all probability anything else you're going to bolt to it before you ride it. By all means buy things you want for the cosmetics, but buying things to change the feel / handling of a bike you've never ridden isn't ideal. There's a chance you'll spend a lot of money to bolt on bits that make it feel less like you wanted it to.

Jambo

[andrewsmith]

What you planning to do to the bike?

[coolevilangel]

My mate got an sv just yesterday, i took it for a quick hurl and the first thing i noticed was how twitchy the front end is compared to mine (a thou)
Was actually wondering ig you could transplant a thou dampner to a 650?

[andrewsmith]

My mate got an sv just yesterday, i took it for a quick hurl and the first thing i noticed was how twitchy the front end is compared to mine (a thou)
Was actually wondering ig you could transplant a thou dampner to a 650?

Was that your first time on a 650?

[coolevilangel]

Was that your first time on a 650?

No, took one out for a test run bout 2yrs ago.
Got my one a few months later:D
But thats been nearly 2 yrs with a dampner so dont know any different tbh

[sv650ollie]

Okay thanks for all the advice guys .
and andrewsmith ive brought a tail tidy , rear seat cowling , rear clear light . and i want to get fairing lowers, black double bubble screen , hugger , stubby race can , going to get my dads freind to re cover the main seat with red stiching lines on it ,and probly what ever else i can find to make it look good

[andrewsmith]

Ah its just cosmetics, we all thought it was setting it up properly handling wise

[sv650ollie]

Yeh pritty much .
what can you do to set them up proper handling wise ?.
im training to be a mecanic so il be able to do the work my self

ollie

[andrewsmith]

have a search

Everything imaginable has been done to SV's

[sv650ollie]

okay
cheers mate thanks for your help
Ollie

[21QUEST]

My mate got an sv just yesterday, i took it for a quick hurl and the first thing i noticed was how twitchy the front end is compared to mine (a thou)
Was actually wondering ig you could transplant a thou dampner to a 650?

If it's as twitchy as you say, something ain't right with the bike or changes have been made to it....

[SVMAT]

Springs oil and rear shock for your weight. If your gunna be riding in rain get a fender extenda....., getting the thing set up for your weight/height is prob the main thing handling wise.

[Biker Biggles]

Use it for practice with your mechanic training.It will be the best maintained SV on the road.

[_Stretchie_]

Alright Ollie, where are you? Might be some helpful members near you.
:D


what can you do to set them up proper handling wise ?

How much do you want to spend? Anything from under £10 to replace the fork oil with newer and stiffer stuff to £100's and £100's to completely change the front end and rear shock for high end fully adjustable comp stuff.

Do a search on here, people change the rear shocks for ones from sports bikes, I think some are a direct fit.

Me and Squirrel_Hunter just helped BAP on here (has an '05 pointy) change the fork oil for some new 15w stuff and he says it's changed it completely and he loves it.


im training to be a mecanic so il be able to do the work my self

That'll help keep the cost of things down

[Owenski]

Giving the forks a service and ensuring the tyres have the correct pressure will give better results on the SV than a steering damper would.

[hongman]

Crash Bungs, top priority imo.

Your bike, do what you want to it, but my advise is to try keep a level head about it (maybe ask for some opinions), I've seen some god awful OTT bikes with all this tasteless bling bolted on top.

[coolevilangel]

Crash Bungs, top priority imo.

Your bike, do what you want to it, but my advise is to try keep a level head about it (maybe ask for some opinions), I've seen some god awful OTT bikes with all this tasteless bling bolted on top.


Agree with this, some folk have no taste lol:smt082
That being said...

Its their bike, they should have it the way they like:rolleyes:

[sv650ollie]

cheers for all your help . i would be looking at a new shock ive been looking. And people put zx shocks and gsxr ones on.
and Stretchie im in poole,dorset mate .

ollie

[sv650ollie]

http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/6089607/

A picture of my sv650 .

ollie

[andrewsmith]

the best thing Ollie would be do the cosmetic things then start doing the suspension etc once you've ridden it for a few months and a good few miles

[sv650ollie]

Hello andrew
yes thats what i was thinking of doing .
getting it to look how i want then do the shock , engine side of things .
i also want to get red samco coolant pipes .
do you know anywhere that does the kit .

Ollie

[Jordy]

Hello andrew
yes thats what i was thinking of doing .
getting it to look how i want then do the shock , engine side of things .
i also want to get red samco coolant pipes .
do you know anywhere that does the kit .

Ollie

http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/Motorcycle/Cooling_System/Samco_Silicone_Coolant_Hose_Kit/419/0/105168/60116

You're welcome. ;)

[sv650ollie]

http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/Motorcycle/Cooling_System/Samco_Silicone_Coolant_Hose_Kit/419/0/105168/60116

You're welcome. ;)


The link did not work fella

ollie

[andrewsmith]

Can get them here aswel aint cheap

http://www.stpmotorsport.co.uk/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.browse&category_id=65&Itemid=15

[sv650ollie]

that will be okay :)
so thats next on my list ,samco hoses , stubby can , hugger , double bubble screen

ollie

[Nobbylad]

Start with the cosmetic things, part-ex if for a pointy!

[andrewsmith]

Start with the cosmetic things, part-ex if for The pre-crashed at the factory SV (pointy)!

haha I was expecting that one!

Thats better :smt040

[_Stretchie_]

cheers for all your help . i would be looking at a new shock ive been looking. And people put zx shocks and gsxr ones on.
and Stretchie im in poole,dorset mate .

ollie

Cool, I'm sure there are some .orgers around there.

[Jordy]

The link did not work fella

ollie

Ah sorry the site must be down at the moment, isn't working for me either. Try again tomorrow - www.demon-tweeks.co.uk (http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk) is the site, enter your bike into the drop down menu and see all that's available for it.

[yorkie_chris]

Demon tweeks is right load of chavtat.

Steering damper is waste of time, I have inch taller at shock, probably 4" at tail if you measure, inch shorter forks giving probably a full degree less rake. You can ride it banzai over bumpy potholed roads and it just wags it's head a bit, nowt to worry about just fun. Inherently stable bike. Lots more important things to spend your money on first.

[barwel1992]

Demon tweeks is right load of chavtat.

Steering damper is waste of time, I have inch taller at shock, probably 4" at tail if you measure, inch shorter forks giving probably a full degree less rake. You can ride it banzai over bumpy potholed roads and it just wags it's head a bit, nowt to worry about just fun. Inherently stable bike. Lots more important things to spend your money on first.

totally agree although i managed to get mine to speed wobble at 120+ but thats with +40 rear and - 1.5+ inch at the front it at - 1.25 now and is fine

as every one else cosmetics first them performance

[beabert]

The front wheel landing exiting bends is the only time my sv really wobbles.

[Nobbylad]

Mine only wobbles on the track, or doing a u-turn very slowly

[yorkie_chris]

totally agree although i managed to get mine to speed wobble at 120+ but thats with +40 rear and - 1.5+ inch at the front it at - 1.25 now and is fine

as every one else cosmetics first them performance

You what? cosmetics first and then performance? You work for loreal or something :smt082

Performance first, cosmetics look after themselves.

[andrewsmith]

You what? cosmetics first and then performance? You work for loreal or something :smt082

Performance first, cosmetics look after themselves.

haha!

Agree with that one,

[barwel1992]

You what? cosmetics first and then performance? You work for loreal or something :smt082

Performance first, cosmetics look after themselves.

lol but the bikes new so hes probs not used to it as it is

by cosmetics i meant slip on can tail tidy or something

then go balls out on performance mods :D

ps i work for herbal essences and its me in the advert :eek: :smt082

[_Stretchie_]

totally agree although i managed to get mine to speed wobble at 120+

What... In your garage??

[barwel1992]

What... In your garage??

yeh had the wheel sensor on the rear, axle stands ani't that sturdy :D

[sv650ollie]

Hello .
fitted new tyre today at work
and i went to fit my tail tidy then relised i have to cut the old one down ?
so i started to cut it down but im not sure how far ?
here is a picture of how much i have cut down .

http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/6092419/

do i need to take much more off ?
thanks
ollie

[andrewsmith]

Hi Ollie

this is the one I got for mine

http://i1034.photobucket.com/albums/a426/andrewsmith1708/Sale%20items/undertray3.jpg


Its cut down too far TBH. You cut the top mounts off the tray?

[sv650ollie]

oh **** .
yes i did :( mines just above the strap .

ollie

[beabert]

Im tight lol

I cut loads off, but did keep the base of the box bit the ecus in, and used that as a flap to fold upwards.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b177/dansarchive/IMAG0001.jpg

This is before i used an angle grinder to finished the sides. I used 1 b&q bracket to hold the flap up from above, and 2 more painted black for the numberplate holder. The brackets are connected together through the flap by bolts at the sides and middle, very strong.

[sv650ollie]

ah wicked so i still have hope ? :)

ollie

[Rob969]

Hi Ollie

this is the one I got for mine

http://i1034.photobucket.com/albums/a426/andrewsmith1708/Sale%20items/undertray3.jpg


Its cut down too far TBH. You cut the top mounts off the tray?



Theres even less of it left now to make room for my new battery box. chopped it all off where the +/- symbols are.

[andrewsmith]

Haha, you happy with the part butchered tray?

[Rob969]

think it must have been a trainee butcher!! its serving its purpose as something i don't mind chopping up to sort out the battery mounting. just got to wait for a lad at work to make a new battery box up just got hold of a piece of stainless steel that he's going to make it from

[andrewsmith]

haha

on the tray I sent the front was me for a zx10 shock, the back was the previous owner :p

I'm going the same way with mine. Derail over

[sv650ollie]

I know this is boring
But i got my sv650 on the bench today and gave it a bit of a service,oil,filter,brakes and brand new metzeler z6 front tyre .
heres a pic

http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/6097027/

Ollie