View Full Version : Proper play with new camera!!
Milky Bar Kid
22-01-11, 07:25 PM
Right you 'orrible lot, went out with one of the dogs today and as it was such a nice afternoon, decided to take the D5000 with me for a wee play!
Here's some of the better pics, please feel free to critique them and give me any hints on tips on how to take better shots. No editing done to any.
http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae218/milkybarkid196/January%202011/DSC_0217.jpg
http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae218/milkybarkid196/January%202011/DSC_0218.jpg
http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae218/milkybarkid196/January%202011/DSC_0220.jpg
http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae218/milkybarkid196/January%202011/DSC_0221.jpg
http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae218/milkybarkid196/January%202011/DSC_0223.jpg
http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae218/milkybarkid196/January%202011/DSC_0235.jpg
http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae218/milkybarkid196/January%202011/DSC_0256.jpg
http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae218/milkybarkid196/January%202011/DSC_0257.jpg
http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae218/milkybarkid196/January%202011/DSC_0195.jpg
http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae218/milkybarkid196/January%202011/DSC_0196.jpg
Let the slating commence!!
fizzwheel
22-01-11, 07:34 PM
I dunno I'd say that was pretty good for a first go with it.
the_lone_wolf
22-01-11, 07:52 PM
The 18-55mm kit lens with the D5000 is very prone to lens flare, great if you want it, not so great if you don't...
If you did want to edit them you could desaturate the colours a bit and sharpen slightly to give the image the cool and crisp feeling you'd expect on a morning like that, but they're fine as is...
kwak zzr
22-01-11, 08:04 PM
they pretty good pic's MBK! ive got a digital SLR ive hardly touched but am really looking forward to getting into :) keep up the good work :)
the_lone_wolf
22-01-11, 08:10 PM
What's 'lens flare'?
Let me Google that for you... (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=lens+flare)
;)
Milky Bar Kid
22-01-11, 08:41 PM
Wasn't using that lens...was using the other one I bought......it's a Nikon as well..
Think I quite like the lens flare though....
vjones777
22-01-11, 11:43 PM
Nice.
For 'portrait shots', like of the dog, a good thing is to have a non distracting background. The door takes the eye away from the subject. A plain background is good for these type of shots. Another thing to try is to get down to the subjects level so you're looking at the world on their level.
Well wolfie me duck, you use technical terms, you explain them. Is that so hard?
Wiki explains 'lens flare' as follows:
'Lens flare is the light scattered in lens (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lens_%28optics%29) systems through generally unwanted image formation mechanisms, such as internal reflection (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reflection_%28physics%29) and scattering (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scattering) from material inhomogeneities in the lens.'
Nice plain English explanation, that.
So now I'll look up 'generally unwanted image formation mechanisms'.
I really like 'material inhomogeneities'. I'm storing that one.
Bluefish
23-01-11, 01:17 AM
Well done MBK, from the third pic on they just get better and better, really nice, apart from the dog pics though sorry, seriously lovin the spiders web :D:D:D
Bluefish
23-01-11, 01:24 AM
The 18-55mm kit lens with the D5000 is very prone to lens flare, great if you want it, not so great if you don't...
If you did want to edit them you could desaturate the colours a bit and sharpen slightly to give the image the cool and crisp feeling you'd expect on a morning like that, but they're fine as is...
Hold on wolfman, first you go on about, sorry in jock, you go on aboot lens flare, then say they are fine, make your mind up, i have already expressed my opinion on the pics, pretty cool imo.
Specialone
23-01-11, 01:45 AM
Nic, i really like the 3rd pic, its a cracking capture that, well done :)
Bluefish
23-01-11, 01:52 AM
Nic, i really like the 3rd pic, its a cracking capture that, well done :)
love the fourth one myself, imo seems to be framed perfectly, would love it full size, get out there more nick you obviously have a knack for it, get it nick knack :D Ps, what time of day were these taken?. Re-read the op, i'm guessing 3-4pm, but you is oop north and get longer daylight than us.
the_lone_wolf
23-01-11, 06:45 AM
Hold on wolfman, first you go on about, sorry in jock, you go on aboot lens flare, then say they are fine, make your mind up
And where did I say lens flare was always a bad thing?
Seriously dude, read and understand someone's post before dissecting it...
Gene genie
23-01-11, 02:24 PM
looks like the dogs saying 'get that outta my face, you've been warned for the last time'.
Milky Bar Kid
23-01-11, 05:48 PM
Cheers guys, thanks for the feedback.
BFM, t'wasn't a spiders web, was a whole lot of lil branches, I walked past and saw them and thought, thats cool, looks like a spiders web. Glad you got what I was going for there.
They were taken about half 3-ish.
tactcom7
23-01-11, 06:16 PM
Nice pics MBK :)
Ed, see the mini suns on the 1st and 3rd pics (amongst others but mroe obvious in those two), all in a line and going across the picture? That's lens flare, basically it's light reflecting off of each of the lens' elements (or internal lenses).
HTH
Si.
Nice...even like the inhomogenetics thingy Wolfie was on about - does that mean they're organic, like free range?
Like the first web one with the green flare
Fruity-ya-ya
23-01-11, 06:33 PM
Like your work, I can't take pics for toffee.
Not jealous much ;)
keith_d
23-01-11, 07:31 PM
Personally, I'm not keen on lens flare and try to minimise it where possible.
There are two types of flare, one is the coloured blobs when the sun is in the frame, or just out of view. These are typically the shape of the lens iris and are fairly common when shooting into the sun.
The other more subtle kind of flare is where sunlight is shining on the front of a lens and being scattered inside so that all of the image gets a little more light. This means the black parts of the image are less black and contrast gets reduced.
To minimise flare I try to keep the sun out of the frame either by framing my shot differently or hiding it behind a tree. If you have a lens hood, this helps to keep the sun from shining on the lens, but sometimes you might want to use your hand as well.
A good way to test this for yourself is to put your camera on a tripod facing a dark subject like conifers, so that the sun is just out of the frame. Make small adjustments and look at where the flare is visible.
Nice pics MBK :)
Ed, see the mini suns on the 1st and 3rd pics (amongst others but mroe obvious in those two), all in a line and going across the picture? That's lens flare, basically it's light reflecting off of each of the lens' elements (or internal lenses).
HTH
Si.
Yes it does help Si, thanks for the explanation. I hadn't even noticed them.
You are all way too fussy:lol:
Filipe M.
24-01-11, 05:36 PM
Personally, I'm not keen on lens flare and try to minimise it where possible.
There are two types of flare, one is the coloured blobs when the sun is in the frame, or just out of view. These are typically the shape of the lens iris and are fairly common when shooting into the sun.
The other more subtle kind of flare is where sunlight is shining on the front of a lens and being scattered inside so that all of the image gets a little more light. This means the black parts of the image are less black and contrast gets reduced.
To minimise flare I try to keep the sun out of the frame either by framing my shot differently or hiding it behind a tree. If you have a lens hood, this helps to keep the sun from shining on the lens, but sometimes you might want to use your hand as well.
A good way to test this for yourself is to put your camera on a tripod facing a dark subject like conifers, so that the sun is just out of the frame. Make small adjustments and look at where the flare is visible.
What he said!
A cool thing you can try to do is partially hide the sun (half should do it) behind a thicker branch and use smaller apertures (big numbers, like f/16 to f/22), and use some negative exposure compensation, like -1 stop or more. That should give you some nice pointy sunstars instead of a big wash of white nothingness. Do be careful when trying this, you don't want to be looking at the sun through a lens focused close to infinity...
Milky Bar Kid
25-01-11, 05:10 PM
What he said!
A cool thing you can try to do is partially hide the sun (half should do it) behind a thicker branch and use smaller apertures (big numbers, like f/16 to f/22), and use some negative exposure compensation, like -1 stop or more. That should give you some nice pointy sunstars instead of a big wash of white nothingness. Do be careful when trying this, you don't want to be looking at the sun through a lens focused close to infinity...
:confused:
Filipe...can you say that again in MBK speak? Thank you please!
The Guru
25-01-11, 05:57 PM
:confused:
... MBK speak? Thank you please!
Point and press
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51ZD7bzurqL._SS400_.jpg
Filipe M.
25-01-11, 10:03 PM
:confused:
Filipe...can you say that again in MBK speak? Thank you please!
Sorry, only just seen this!
Right, let's take this in steps. See the funny looking round dial at the top of the camera, the one that's set on AUTO? ;) Rotate it carefully to the P position (P doesn't mean Perfect, nor Professional, btw :lol: it just means Program).
Now what this means is the camera will still make pretty much all of the exposure decisions for you so you can concentrate on composition and other not-so-important stuff :lol: , but you can override it in case you don't like what the camera is giving you back (full auto means camera is in command and if you don't like the results it doesn't give a damn).
And why would you want to override it? Because the camera doesn't know what you're shooting. The current Nikon cameras have a very good guess (mainly through light - and colour* - pattern information comparison with a built-in database), but it's still only a guess that was programmed in by some asian guy sitting in a cubicle somewhere.
So back to photography. You're standing in the middle of the woods, you see a pattern that looks like cobwebs, you have the camera on Auto, aim it there, carefully compose your shot and press the shutter. Camera returns a nice picture, but with a big expanse of white sky burning a whole through your picture, your colours have gone home for winter and there isn't a lot more than that. Mmmm not exactly what you had in mind. Maybe if the picture was a little bit darker? Right, time to override the meter. Set the camera on P mode, frame your shot just like the other one, but this time press the button behind the shutter with a +/- on it and keep it pressed while you rotate the rear command dial (the one that sits under your thumb) so that it shows, say, -1.0 (that'll be 3 clicks for you). Shoot again. And maybe the picture will begin to show more of what you say in the first place, with more defined contours, a bit more colour, and deeper shadows. Congratulations, you've just told the japanese guy in the cubicle you know better! :D
Of course after you do this don't forget to return your exposure compensation to 0, or you'll get funny results for the rest of the day. This is something that needs to be set on a per picture basis. Some will need more, some will need less, some on the plus side, some on the minus.
Play with it in different scenarios and see what works for you. And ask if you need more guidance. :)
* have that, Canon! Yes, Canon cameras still meter in black and white :p :cool: :smt082
Milky Bar Kid
25-01-11, 10:09 PM
Always gotta get a dig in at the Canon!!!
Thanks Filipe...I shall have a play and see how I get on...PS...anna told me to put it on auto...
Cat. Pigeons. Love it!
Always gotta get a dig in at the Canon!!!
Thanks Filipe...I shall have a play and see how I get on...PS...anna told me to put it on auto...
Cat. Pigeons. Love it!
I wont give you any more advice then. Nope. Nada. Zip [-X
Milky Bar Kid
25-01-11, 10:17 PM
Anna, please don't tell lies on my thread.
Anyway, you and Filipe are awesome for being patient with me!
Filipe M.
25-01-11, 10:17 PM
Always gotta get a dig in at the Canon!!!
Thanks Filipe...I shall have a play and see how I get on...PS...anna told me to put it on auto...
Cat. Pigeons. Love it!
She was right, as you didn't really know what else to do with it, but maybe it's time to start thinking about taking the camera out of first gear and get out of the parking lot ;)
Milky Bar Kid
25-01-11, 10:18 PM
She was right, as you didn't really know what else to do with it, but maybe it's time to start thinking about taking the camera out of first gear and get out of the parking lot ;)
And stall at the first junction...lol!
Filipe M.
25-01-11, 10:19 PM
And stall at the first junction...lol!
Nowt wrong with that as long as you don't drop it! :lol:
... would be worse if it was a Canon though, even Fischer Price cameras are built with better plastics than them! :lol: *runs*
Milky Bar Kid
25-01-11, 10:20 PM
Haha! It's ok, I got insurance on it because I am highly likely to drop it....
keith_d
25-01-11, 10:40 PM
On a modern camera Auto is fine for something like 90% of situations, but as Filipe has said, there are times when it can't cope. When the subject is predominantly dark (like stained glass in a church) or predominantly light (like snowy landscapes) the camera can get it completely wrong. The camera will try to get the average brightness of your photo somewhere around mid-grey. With a snowy scene this will make the snow greyish and turn the people into black silhouettes. Conversely inside a church it will try to get the walls mid-grey and overexpose the stained glass windows losing all the detail.
Setting the dial to P (program mode) will still allow the camera to do almost everything automatically, but you can now override it's decision. Setting +ve values in the compensation tells it to allow more light in (to get the snow looking white) and setting -ve compensation will let less light in (for dark churches with bright windows).
The great thing about digital cameras is that you can give things a try without having to wait a week for your results. So when you've got a few minutes have a go. Try switching to Program mode and taking the same landscape with the compensation set to +2,0 & -2. Then compare the results on your PC.
The toughest thing about using exposure compensation is remembering to turn it off. I've lost count of the number of times I've forgotten.
Keith.
Milky Bar Kid
26-01-11, 06:06 PM
*ahem...clears throat*
FILIPEEEEEEEEEEEE!!
Right, now that I have caught your attention, I was out playing again today and it was around sunset time. Now, where I was there are lovely big granite hills and the sky had some amazing blues and purples going on but how the fook do I get those colours???
Filipe M.
26-01-11, 06:21 PM
*ahem...clears throat*
FILIPEEEEEEEEEEEE!!
Right, now that I have caught your attention, I was out playing again today and it was around sunset time. Now, where I was there are lovely big granite hills and the sky had some amazing blues and purples going on but how the fook do I get those colours???
Send me one of the pics you took so I can have a look and try and find out what you missed. :D Sunsets are a pain in the bottom to get right the first time, but when you do you can't stop shooting them :D
Milky Bar Kid
26-01-11, 06:22 PM
Erm...deleted most of them because thems were pants however, PM me your email and I will send one!
PS...you realise I am going to keep on annoying you??
Filipe M.
26-01-11, 06:23 PM
Erm...deleted most of them because thems were pants however, PM me your email and I will send one!
PS...you realise I am going to keep on annoying you??
No worries, I'll just hide under the table until you get bored of it all :-$
Milky Bar Kid
26-01-11, 06:26 PM
I will get bored if I stay pants at it. If I manage to get a bit better though I won't!
Filipe M.
26-01-11, 06:52 PM
No, I'm not hiding, it's just taking a bit of time to reply! :lol:
Milky Bar Kid
26-01-11, 06:53 PM
LOL! Remember..MBK speak or else I shall get confuzzled!
Filipe M.
26-01-11, 07:14 PM
Replied... I think :lol:
... would be worse if it was a Canon though, even Fischer Price cameras are built with better plastics than them! :lol: *runs*
Er, excuse me mister...:smt093
Filipe M.
26-01-11, 10:45 PM
Er, excuse me mister...:smt093
What?, did I say anything wrong? :lol:
Milky Bar Kid
26-01-11, 11:01 PM
Truth hurts Filipe!!
Jimmy2Feet
27-01-11, 12:04 PM
i also have started to pull together a few of my first shots (only got my first "real" camera 2 weeks ago) and not that i am asking for help or advice from people, but critique would be muched appreciated. and as always the orgers seem a fountain of knowlage as wisdom.
I will try to upload a few shot tonight!
Filipe M.
27-01-11, 02:32 PM
i also have started to pull together a few of my first shots (only got my first "real" camera 2 weeks ago) and not that i am asking for help or advice from people, but critique would be muched appreciated. and as always the orgers seem a fountain of knowlage as wisdom.
I will try to upload a few shot tonight!
Go ahead, we'll be more than happy to shoot you down! :lol:
8-[
Taxiiiiiiiiii............... :-#
Jimmy if you have a Canon then don't bother:lol:
Jimmy2Feet
27-01-11, 04:01 PM
no its a Nikon 3100
Not the best i know, but a good start.
I am always up for constructive criticism so bring it on!! :)
Filipe M.
27-01-11, 05:18 PM
Jimmy if you have a Canon then don't bother:lol:
Oi, I resent that! :(
Who would I make fun of then? Pentax owners? :p
Oh wait, that wouldn't be politically correct... :lol:
no its a Nikon 3100
Not the best i know, but a good start.
I am always up for constructive criticism so bring it on!! :)
It's an excellent starting camera, and don't let any Canon owner tell you otherwise. Not that they would, they're usually too busy comparing megapixel specs :lol:
*runs*
Filipe gives excellent advice, when you choose to deal with an inferior camera system I guess it's learn fast or give up...
MBK, I've not seen the sunset pictures but I'd say that there are a few classic things that wash these photos out:
1) The camera shoots into the sun, thinks "ooh, isn't that a lot of light / dark" and opts to over-expose, leaving the sky too bright, loosing some detail. As covered already by keith & filipe, the exposure compensation dial usually helps, just take it down a bit per picture until it looks right.
2) The camera thinks "my what a lot of orange, we're probably indoors under incandescent bulbs, better try and add some blue so everyone doesn't look orange". This takes all the lovely oranges and reds and makes them way less striking. On your camera once you move out of "Auto" to "P" or one of the other creative modes you will have a "White balance" button. If you set it to "daylight" the colours often seem much more like you see them. Other settings like "florescent" and "cloudy" can help change the colours to make the scene look different. Well worth a play :)
3) The picture mode. On standard picture mode the colours are usually set to a fairly normal level, don't want everything looking un-natural do we? There will be a picture mode setting for "landscape" and a few others that usually turns the volume up a bit for colours or allows you to pick black & white when you want to, or portrait if you want skin tones to come out a little nicer. Think of these as different film types that professionals used to take great care over depending on the type of scene they were shooting. Useful to have on a button :)
As above. Set all this back to standard afterwards or you get dark pictures with funny colours when you just want a picture of your dog :)
Jambo
Milky Bar Kid
27-01-11, 10:11 PM
Cheers Jambo!
busasean
28-01-11, 05:40 AM
I know nothing about photography so I wont comment , but your dog is lovely....
Milky Bar Kid
28-01-11, 07:17 AM
LOL! Thanks! He's one of 6!
Jimmy2Feet
28-01-11, 09:36 AM
Oi, I resent that! :(
Who would I make fun of then? Pentax owners? :p
Oh wait, that wouldn't be politically correct... :lol:
It's an excellent starting camera, and don't let any Canon owner tell you otherwise. Not that they would, they're usually too busy comparing megapixel specs :lol:
*runs*
Good,
it was down to your advice that set me on the 3100 for a start, and i really am more than happy with it, just need to get a better lens to go with it now.
I didn't get the chance to upload last night (obveously!) so will try again over the weekend!
Filipe M.
28-01-11, 11:22 AM
Good,
it was down to your advice that set me on the 3100 for a start, and i really am more than happy with it, just need to get a better lens to go with it now.
I didn't get the chance to upload last night (obveously!) so will try again over the weekend!
Stick to the lens you have until you know exactly what its faults are, what it's not doing for you, what other lens you want, and why do you want it. ;)
Jimmy2Feet
28-01-11, 12:42 PM
Stick to the lens you have until you know exactly what its faults are, what it's not doing for you, what other lens you want, and why do you want it. ;)
i am happy ATM with the lens i have (18-55 kit) and i think the results that i am getting are great, but i need something with a longer focal point(i think that is the right wording!) i.e. i wasnt a longer zoom, more so to take sporting shots (surfing in particular) wildlife shots etc, so its not that i want to replace the current lens, i just want another to complement it. i would like a 70-300 but i think i will settle for a 55-200 due to price, (i know is wont be as good a lens, but i can always upgrade again in the future.
Filipe M.
28-01-11, 12:49 PM
i am happy ATM with the lens i have (18-55 kit) and i think the results that i am getting are great, but i need something with a longer focal point(i think that is the right wording!) i.e. i wasnt a longer zoom, more so to take sporting shots (surfing in particular) wildlife shots etc, so its not that i want to replace the current lens, i just want another to complement it. i would like a 70-300 but i think i will settle for a 55-200 due to price, (i know is wont be as good a lens, but i can always upgrade again in the future.
The correct wording is focal length :)
I started out pretty much the same as you did, with a D60 (the D3100 spiritual predecessor - the body is still pretty much the same) and a 18-55 VR kit lens, then went out and got the 55-200 VR to complement it. They make a very good combo as they are very similar, both in specs and performance. IMHO, they're both a lot better than their price point would suggest, especially now you can get the 55-200 VR for peanuts if you shop around.
The 70-300 VR is a lot more lens, but then again it's a lot more money...
the_lone_wolf
28-01-11, 01:10 PM
Just to chip in on the telephoto lens debate - the Tamron 70-300 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Tamron-AF-70-300mm-F4-5-6-Macro/dp/B000HDZAUA) is dirt cheap, and reputedly very cheerful for the money - my only complaint is that it can be a bit soft at 270mm+ but for what I paid it's worth it by far, what you lose in detail can be made up for by having another 100mm to play with over a X-200mm lens
The Nikkor 70-300 lens is undoubtedly better, but it's 3x the cash, if you only plan to use it occasionally is it really worth it?...
This was taken with my D5000 and the Tamron:
http://i488.photobucket.com/albums/rr243/ktm_wolf/Photography/DSC_0472.jpg
Jimmy2Feet
28-01-11, 01:14 PM
The correct wording is focal length :)
I started out pretty much the same as you did, with a D60 (the D3100 spiritual predecessor - the body is still pretty much the same) and a 18-55 VR kit lens, then went out and got the 55-200 VR to complement it. They make a very good combo as they are very similar, both in specs and performance. IMHO, they're both a lot better than their price point would suggest, especially now you can get the 55-200 VR for peanuts if you shop around.
The 70-300 VR is a lot more lens, but then again it's a lot more money...
Ah close but no cigar!! :)
that is what i was thinking, and i can always get another lens when i have the money in the future.
When it comes to it, another question if you don't mind.
I am currently just playing around, using different exposures, apertures, ISO etc, and having read a lot i am feeling quite confident around what it all means, and what to use/change, when. however i know that i a lot more to learn around this point along with everything else to do with photography.
So i was thinking that going on a workshop or something like that might be a good idea, a 2 day thing or something like that, to be able to have someone actually point me in the right direction etc to let my skills grow.
Do you have any experience with this? and any suggestion i.e. is it worth it!?
Filipe M.
28-01-11, 01:56 PM
Just to chip in on the telephoto lens debate - the Tamron 70-300 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Tamron-AF-70-300mm-F4-5-6-Macro/dp/B000HDZAUA) is dirt cheap, and reputedly very cheerful for the money - my only complaint is that it can be a bit soft at 270mm+ but for what I paid it's worth it by far, what you lose in detail can be made up for by having another 100mm to play with over a X-200mm lens
Can't really beat that price, the only lens I can think of that comes close (in range, quality and price) is Nikon's own 70-300G f/4-5.6 (not the VR version), but that won't auto-focus on the D3100 / D5000. I bought one shortly after I got the D90, but the optical flaws were driving me nuts so I ended up getting the VR version... but then again I tend to use telephotos quite a bit, if it was just something I use once or twice a year it might have been different.
Filipe M.
28-01-11, 01:59 PM
Ah close but no cigar!! :)
that is what i was thinking, and i can always get another lens when i have the money in the future.
When it comes to it, another question if you don't mind.
I am currently just playing around, using different exposures, apertures, ISO etc, and having read a lot i am feeling quite confident around what it all means, and what to use/change, when. however i know that i a lot more to learn around this point along with everything else to do with photography.
So i was thinking that going on a workshop or something like that might be a good idea, a 2 day thing or something like that, to be able to have someone actually point me in the right direction etc to let my skills grow.
Do you have any experience with this? and any suggestion i.e. is it worth it!?
A good workshop with a good instructor is always a good thing, especially when you're starting out. Try and find something with good reviews, with people who know their stuff and how to teach, and it's going to be money well spent. :)
the_lone_wolf
28-01-11, 02:04 PM
Can't really beat that price, the only lens I can think of that comes close (in range, quality and price) is Nikon's own 70-300G f/4-5.6 (not the VR version), but that won't auto-focus on the D3100 / D5000. I bought one shortly after I got the D90, but the optical flaws were driving me nuts so I ended up getting the VR version... but then again I tend to use telephotos quite a bit, if it was just something I use once or twice a year it might have been different.
I found myself using the Tamron more than I expected, but not enough for me to justify £350+ on the Nikkor
Sigma seem to be offering a 70-300mm lens for £120 on Amazon - no idea of the quality or features but it's another budget option
Bluefish
28-01-11, 03:50 PM
cool pic wolfman :thumbsup:
Jimmy2Feet
28-01-11, 04:49 PM
A good workshop with a good instructor is always a good thing, especially when you're starting out. Try and find something with good reviews, with people who know their stuff and how to teach, and it's going to be money well spent. :)
Ok, cool. I assumed that it should be worth it, but didn't want to go spending money on something that is not worth it.
Cheers again Filipe, I am starting to get the feeling that you are the orical of knowlage on anything to do with photography on the org!!
Filipe M.
28-01-11, 04:54 PM
Ok, cool. I assumed that it should be worth it, but didn't want to go spending money on something that is not worth it.
Cheers again Filipe, I am starting to get the feeling that you are the orical of knowlage on anything to do with photography on the org!!
Nah, I'm just someone who likes photography and geek stuff a bit too much for my own good. ;) There are people around here who know a fair bit more than I do about it (and have been doing it for a lot longer!). :cool:
the_lone_wolf
28-01-11, 04:55 PM
cool pic wolfman :thumbsup:
Cheers dude - was the best of a bunch I took of the hawk hunting on Chapman's Peak Drive in SA
Has been cropped and lightly molested in photoshop...
Jimmy2Feet
28-01-11, 05:37 PM
Nah, I'm just someone who likes photography and geek stuff a bit too much for my own good. ;) There are people around here who know a fair bit more than I do about it (and have been doing it for a lot longer!). :cool:
How long ago did you get your first "real camera" then? (I.e. SLR)
Filipe M.
28-01-11, 05:43 PM
How long ago did you get your first "real camera" then? (I.e. SLR)
3 years ago, with the D60. Before that I was using a now 7 year old Fuji S5500 bridge, but got tired of the limitations (quality and handling wise) and as soon as I got some spare cash, I went DSLR (and killed any idea I had of eventually saving some money in the future!). :lol:
Jimmy2Feet
28-01-11, 05:53 PM
Mate, for 3 years, you really have got a fantastic amount of know how, and the quality of the pics (that i have seen) are great. lets hope that i am able to replicate even half what you know. then there is half a chance that i may be able to bring my love for photography, and my business knowhow to gether and maybe.......just maybe make a little money from it too!!!
I will post those forst few pics that i have managed to get out and take around work commitments on here over the weekend to see what pointers people may be able to give me.
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