View Full Version : One from the local news (biker locked up)
Dave20046
28-01-11, 11:24 PM
http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/local/man_jailed_after_dragging_driving_instructor_and_f ailing_to_stop_1_2963173?commentspage=0
Thought this might have been of interest to a few people, sentence is a disgrace for more or less trying to kill the bloke - people get more than that for fraud!
Milky Bar Kid
28-01-11, 11:27 PM
Linky no worky!
Dave20046
28-01-11, 11:30 PM
Doh!
Just googled it can't find the article anywhere else now.
Basically a cockerel on a sportsbike went for a (more than) dodgy over take on another biker, truck comes round the bend; **** overtaking barges the other chap out of the way but the chap he tries to knock out of the way gets entangled in his bike and get dragged a fair distance.
Biker spirit eh?
Milky Bar Kid
28-01-11, 11:36 PM
Sounds like a delightfully polite gentleman...
Dave20046
28-01-11, 11:37 PM
Sounds like a delightfully polite gentleman...
Indeed, although I usually wave at other bikers not cripple them.:scratch:
the_lone_wolf
28-01-11, 11:46 PM
Article still up in Google's cache.... (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:XsX5GfLZXpIJ:www.thestar.co.uk/news/local/man_jailed_after_dragging_driving_instructor_and_f ailing_to_stop_1_2963173+thestar.co.uk+man+jailed+ after&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk&source=www.google.co.uk)
Sounds like a weapons grade **** socket to me...:rolleyes:
Dave20046
28-01-11, 11:50 PM
cheers tlolf
The sentence seems shockingly light for almost killing a man, costing him his job, and giving him permament injuries.
:(
Milky Bar Kid
28-01-11, 11:58 PM
Holy crap! That's terrible stuff. Poor guy.
Dave20046
28-01-11, 11:58 PM
The sentence seems shockingly light for almost killing a man, costing him his job, and giving him permament injuries.
:(
Indeed, whereas in the same paper there are guys going down for 3years+ for fraud. Proper legal system :fish:
tragic no wonder bikers get a bad name when there is people like him on the road.
14 months in jail but only a 3 month ban WTF so his ban will be up when he gets out. should have been a 3 year ban. the man is a disgrace to the biking fraternity.
Bluefish
29-01-11, 12:00 AM
banned for 3 months, is that a joke, seems like the judge should be jailed as well for being incompetent.
andrewsmith
29-01-11, 12:08 AM
14 months (out in 7) 3 month ban for almost killing two people.
Should be in for a dam sight longer.
No wonder we do get a bad name if p****s like him try and outwit a 40 ton tanker
A friend of mine's 20 year old son has recently been jailed for dangerous driving - 6 months inside for his first offence, he's never even picked up a parking ticket. An unmarked car with a lone copper tried to flag him down because of his badly spaced personal plate but he kept going and went a bit quicker than the speed limit to get home at 2am thinking it was some chancer. Ten minutes before he went into court a bloke got a conditional discharge for a serious assault on his girlfriend.
Makes you wonder what's happened to this country's justice system. I'm getting more and more disillusioned by it every day.
xXBADGERXx
29-01-11, 07:58 AM
Jesus Christ .......... he even looks like a right Charlie Hunt as well . If that was me he would be having a "Welcoming Commitee" waiting for him on the steps of the prison when he is released ........... oh and when you do get out in 14 months time and are vain enough to do a search about yourself and see this thread , I`d be more than happy to come and talk to you about this post .
phil24_7
29-01-11, 11:18 AM
Here's hoping some big oaf "lifer" finds him attractive on the inside! :D
xXBADGERXx
29-01-11, 11:32 AM
Here's hoping some big oaf "lifer" finds him attractive on the inside! :D
"You sure got a real purdy mouth there Boy ......."
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-Ralph-
29-01-11, 11:51 AM
Unbelievable. Was the charge correct? GBH? There is no doubt the guy would have been fully aware that this was potentially fatal. This is not knocking three sheets out of someone and putting them in hospital, he only stopped because the victim managed to get a hold of him and drag him off the bike. This guy was going to carry on until the victim died. Shouldn't he have been done for attempted murder?
-Ralph-
29-01-11, 12:01 PM
This was a serious collision which could easily have resulted in loss of life for Vance Johnson.
He’s very lucky to still be with us and this is reflected in the sentence issued at court.
This guys a :toss: 'er too. Either he really believes the sentence is fair, or he hasn't got the guts to speak out against the system and say what he really believes.
Geodude
29-01-11, 12:05 PM
Reading this quote from the article has saddened me
“It was horrific, I thought I was going to die. He knew I was attached to the bike but he didn’t stop - he even looked down at me and continued riding.“I could smell my flesh burning as I was being dragged along.
“Bikes have been my life and I cannot believe a fellow motorcyclist would do what he did to me - it has sickened me.”
What is wrong with people these days?
Milky Bar Kid
29-01-11, 12:05 PM
I bet PC Adrian Hopkinson never said that and it was the media guys from his force that released those comments!!!
I have apparently made comments in the press before when actually, no, I didn't!
-Ralph-
29-01-11, 12:19 PM
I bet PC Adrian Hopkinson never said that and it was the media guys from his force that released those comments!!!
I have apparently made comments in the press before when actually, no, I didn't!
The media guys are :toss: 'ers then. I hate that kind of thing just as much as the sentence itself. Do they honestly think just because they say justice has been done, that makes it true, and that everybody will just swallow it? They are treating us like idiots when they release statements like that, better just to say nothing.
Biker Biggles
29-01-11, 12:21 PM
I bet PC Adrian Hopkinson never said that and it was the media guys from his force that released those comments!!!
I have apparently made comments in the press before when actually, no, I didn't!
And its more than his jobsworth to actually say anything contraversial in the public domain.
-Ralph-
29-01-11, 12:48 PM
And its more than his jobsworth to actually say anything contraversial in the public domain.
Which is why he/they'd better saying nothing at all.
Fellow bikers is a bit of an oxymoron these days, some of the so-called bikers out there are no mates of mine.
andrewsmith
29-01-11, 03:16 PM
Unbelievable. Was the charge correct? GBH? There is no doubt the guy would have been fully aware that this was potentially fatal. This is not knocking three sheets out of someone and putting them in hospital, he only stopped because the victim managed to get a hold of him and drag him off the bike. This guy was going to carry on until the victim died. Shouldn't he have been done for attempted murder?
Personally I'd say its attempted murder, as he's made no attempt to stop after an accident and dragged his victim 300 yards down the road
this is assault with a deadly weapon, its ridiculous, if i was to not hurt anyone and rob a jewellers at 3am, i would get probably 3 yrs.
and only banned from driving for 3months?!?! he should never be allowed to be in charge of any vehicle for the rest of his life, he couldve stopped the bike and been a half decent person, call ambulance, make sure he is alrite, etc etc, some people dont deserve the privelage of using a motor vehicle.
andreis
29-01-11, 05:18 PM
Oh man, horrible horrible behavior... Really saddened that people can be so cruel to do something like this. Unbelievable that a person can behave in this manner. How can one be so self centered to consider acting as such?!?! :(
Regarding the prison and ban part, I really don't think "justice" has anything to do with things anymore and it just goes to prove once more how twisted and out of touch with reality the schemes of society really are. Of which, the law is a big f***ed up part, btw.
Biker Biggles
29-01-11, 05:34 PM
My first thought was that there must be more to this or they would have brought a more serious charge.Perhaps the evidence was'nt robust enough to get a conviction?
What it does show is that we concentrate for too much on the actual result of a piece of appauling behaviour rather than on the behaviour itself.If the victim had been killed he would have gone down for manslaughter or death by dangerous driving and be doing five or six years.However,the victim survived so he only gets fouteen months for exactly the same behaviour.Its the behaviour that needs punishing,not the lottery of what the result was.
Specialone
29-01-11, 05:39 PM
My first thought was that there must be more to this or they would have brought a more serious charge.Perhaps the evidence was'nt robust enough to get a conviction?
What it does show is that we concentrate for too much on the actual result of a piece of appauling behaviour rather than on the behaviour itself.If the victim had been killed he would have gone down for manslaughter or death by dangerous driving and be doing five or six years.However,the victim survived so he only gets fouteen months for exactly the same behaviour.Its the behaviour that needs punishing,not the lottery of what the result was.
I was just about to post exactly the same point, his attitude wasn't any different, the result was.
It's like attempted murder with a gun, shot fired with intent, guy lives by a miracle, should sentence be any different because he was lucky and managed to survive ?
Hes a c**t and should be dragged that distance himself see how he likes it.
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