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Milky Bar Kid
03-02-11, 11:45 AM
Cadbury are downsizing...
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/food-and-drink/news/chocs-away-as-dairy-milk-shrinks-2202753.html
I think it's a ridiculous price as it is for a bar of Dairy Milk and I definately won't buy one if they are making it any smaller!!!!!!!!!!!!
Seems to be the way of things these days, more money for less.:rolleyes:
CADBURY, SORT IT OUT!!!
missyburd
03-02-11, 11:49 AM
yeah but in all honesty, if obese people are going to buy a bar of fattening chocolate the less they get the better. Although really I feel there should be some sort of ban on selling chocolate/takeaways/other crappy foods to obese people...
That's a bit silly. That's like saying under weight people should be force fed.
Everyone has a choice, but if they suffer from it then we should have the right to refuse them treatment or services as it is their fault. No one should be banned from buying stuff.
Milky Bar Kid
03-02-11, 11:54 AM
Hmmm...Maria...not really my point. I grudge having to pay 99p for a tiny bar of chocolate. I like chocolate, particularly cadbury, and I'm not obese so should I also be penalised when I purchase a bar of Dairy Milk. Ridiculous.
Don't tell me Kraft don't make enough of a profit on Cadbury for it to be sustainable!! This screams of greed to me.
speedplay
03-02-11, 11:58 AM
400g bars....
5p each ;)
Thats what we were paying for them direct from cadbury last year :)
I still have passes for the shop there if your desperate although theres a £40 limit but if you spend £40, take a wheelbarrow with you..:)
Mr Speirs
03-02-11, 11:58 AM
It's common is every area of the food market. It's an easy way to combat the rising costs of ingredients without having to affect the price. Although prices have risen also.
Although I noticed that the chocolates you get in Cadbury's heros were bigger and there were far more of the decent ones too.
The Guru
03-02-11, 12:00 PM
... I like chocolate, particularly cadbury...
I thought the Milky Bar Kid preferred Nestlé? :smt102
timwilky
03-02-11, 12:03 PM
Agghh I am a chocoholic (What do you expect from an ex smoker)
Green and Blacks for me, but somehow I think Cadbury/Kraft own them.
So is my preferred nibble going to get smaller as well?
Milky Bar Kid
03-02-11, 12:04 PM
Agghh I am a chocoholic (What do you expect from an ex smoker)
Green and Blacks for me, but somehow I think Cadbury/Kraft own them.
So is my preferred nibble going to get smaller as well?
I think you are right Tim. They will probably put the price up on those bars as they are "luxury" bars.
I thought the Milky Bar Kid preferred Nestlé? :smt102
:winner:
454697819
03-02-11, 12:07 PM
yeah but in all honesty, if obese people are going to buy a bar of fattening chocolate the less they get the better. Although really I feel there should be some sort of ban on selling chocolate/takeaways/other crappy foods to obese people...
yeah.. hold on Im technically obease but I am not unwell? I am no more of a burden to the NHS than a thin person who may blow over in a strong breeze? :smt019
454697819
03-02-11, 12:10 PM
pringles used to be 200g tins, they are now 160g
Littlepeahead
03-02-11, 12:30 PM
In the same news bulletin I heard a story about ambulances having to be reinforced. 5 years ago the average patient weighed 12- 13 stone. Now the average is 17 - 20 stone. Some woman who weighs nearly 30 stone was interviewed and said how cross she was that the wheelchair and stretcher were uncomfortable on her way to hospital and when she go there they made her walk along lots of long corridors until she was out of breath. The whole interview she was making it sound as though the hospital were being totally unreasonable even though she is the one who must have eaten a few too many Dairy Milks to get to 30 stone!
missyburd
03-02-11, 12:32 PM
yeah.. hold on Im technically obease but I am not unwell? I am no more of a burden to the NHS than a thin person who may blow over in a strong breeze? :smt019
technically obese? as in to the point of filling up a doorway? I think not. I don't mean slightly over the recommended weight you should be for your height/age/mentality or whatever.
And Nic, I realise it wasn't your point, just one I made. About your point, it is quite tragic the amount of food we get for the money now, but then it reflects exactly the financial problems this country is in.
1 of my friends says she despises fat people like that, and were not talking about people who are a bit chubby or "cuddly" she means the 1s who are a danger to shipping, they beep when they back up.
Her thinking is that being 25st+ shows you are greedy, lazy and too stubborn to admit you have a problem. When I think of the £m spent on caring for these people on the NHS, I kind of have to agree with her
To any really obese people who may be reading, sorry.....please don't eat me
speedplay
03-02-11, 12:53 PM
technically obese? as in to the point of filling up a doorway? I think not. I don't mean slightly over the recommended weight you should be for your height/age/mentality or whatever.
You may be suprised at how low the threshold actually is for being classed as "morbidly obese".
missyburd
03-02-11, 12:56 PM
I'm listening to radio 2 atm, they are discussing the issues concerning the lifting of clinically obese patients, paramedics and health workers having difficulty with stretchers and lifting equipment and the pouring of more money into better equipping hospitals and ambulances. Clinical obesity is a big issue on this country, end of. Please don't think I'm "picking on fat people", good grief far from it. I just think it's a very serious issue and I don't see why we should tiptoe around the subject (sorry I appear to have gatecrashed your thread about expensive choc MBK...:smt085 )
lady who's husband has recently died (over 30st) saying on radio "i want to scream at people to lose weight because everyone should be responsible for their own bodies."
missyburd
03-02-11, 12:57 PM
You may be suprised at how low the threshold actually is for being classed as "morbidly obese".
no doubt partially a scare tactic as a measure to get them to lose weight.
Milky Bar Kid
03-02-11, 12:57 PM
Gatecrash away, lord know's I'm a serial de-railer...!
In the same news bulletin I heard a story about ambulances having to be reinforced. 5 years ago the average patient weighed 12- 13 stone. Now the average is 17 - 20 stone. Some woman who weighs nearly 30 stone was interviewed and said how cross she was that the wheelchair and stretcher were uncomfortable on her way to hospital and when she go there they made her walk along lots of long corridors until she was out of breath. The whole interview she was making it sound as though the hospital were being totally unreasonable even though she is the one who must have eaten a few too many Dairy Milks to get to 30 stone!
I heard that too and it made me chuckle. Did the bulletin editor put the two items together deliberately I wonder?
1 of my friends says she despises fat people like that, and were not talking about people who are a bit chubby or "cuddly" she means the 1s who are a danger to shipping, they beep when they back up.
Her thinking is that being 25st+ shows you are greedy, lazy and too stubborn to admit you have a problem. When I think of the £m spent on caring for these people on the NHS, I kind of have to agree with her
To any really obese people who may be reading, sorry.....please don't eat me
I do hope you don't crash and need help from any of the emergency services or hospitals when you go out for fun on your bike on a Sunday
speedplay
03-02-11, 01:00 PM
I'm listening to radio 2 atm
God, I thought you were young too....:rolleyes:
daveangel
03-02-11, 01:09 PM
I remember buying Curly Wurly bars (showing my age:rolleyes:) on holiday years ago, they seemed a foot long! Saw one two years ago it seemed not much bigger than a bar of 'Dear'-y Milk! Most of the normal supermarket own brand is OK to me.
Seriously though why should some people who spend years abusing their bodies with excesses of unhealthy food, nicotine and drugs then expect the already overburdened NHS to fix them and have all this equipment to cope? It all takes resources away from someone who has tried to lead a healthy-as-much-as-possible-life. A bit harsh maybe, but make a visit to your local casualty on a Saturday night if you don't agree. .
And clearly, people who have some inherited weakness or defect shouldn't be allowed to breed either
yorkie_chris
03-02-11, 01:17 PM
Fat people p*ss me off.
Too fat to work, so they get loads of benefits and continue to stuff their useless faces, meanwhile burdening the public health service. Hell fire I used to work at a place that sells the lifting kit for these piles of blubber and I've seen the prices...
So how's this for a solution, the only benefit they're "entitled" to is a battering with a couple of onions in a sock if they whinge and they get 3 healthy meals a day and f*** all else. Problem solved, at one fell swoop we save money on benefits, healthcare and within a few months said whale will be fit to rejoin society. Sorted.
Did anyone see that "Britains fattest man" program a while ago? Whose daily intake included 3 full breakfasts, an indian banquet for 10 and about 15 pints. No WAY should some leeching c*** be able to afford that lifestyle.
If you're "morbidly obese" but otherwise a perfectly normal member of society no problem, go about your business, it's none of anyone else's business what you eat or when.
My definition of "morbidly obese" is some jabba the hutt thing that can't get out of bed, the NHS is mental calling guys who are just big and might like their bitter obese as it just dilutes the term.
or go on holiday to Thailand
Littlepeahead
03-02-11, 01:20 PM
For a while Chris8886 got his own room at the hospital as he is stuck in there far longer than most patients while tests are ongoing. Then they moved him out as a great big porky women needed to be put in there as she had 'special needs' for being obese. Hardly seems fair when Chris is super fit and healthy but suffered a heart problem due to a virus or possibly electrical problem in his heart, whereas this women is getting priority treatment for stuffing herself with rubbish food, which is probably why she is ill in the first place.
I'm feeling quite virtuous today - walked 3 miles to the station and then had a cereal bar for breakfast and an apple for lunch. Chocolate goes out of date in my desk draw before I get around to eating it.
speedplay
03-02-11, 01:29 PM
And clearly, people who have some inherited weakness or defect shouldn't be allowed to breed either
:smt040
timwilky
03-02-11, 01:38 PM
Fat people p*ss me off.
Too fat to work, so they get loads of benefits and continue to stuff their useless faces, meanwhile burdening the public health service. Hell fire I used to work at a place that sells the lifting kit for these piles of blubber and I've seen the prices...
So how's this for a solution, the only benefit they're "entitled" to is a battering with a couple of onions in a sock if they whinge and they get 3 healthy meals a day and f*** all else. Problem solved, at one fell swoop we save money on benefits, healthcare and within a few months said whale will be fit to rejoin society. Sorted.
Did anyone see that "Britains fattest man" program a while ago? Whose daily intake included 3 full breakfasts, an indian banquet for 10 and about 15 pints. No WAY should some leeching c*** be able to afford that lifestyle.
If you're "morbidly obese" but otherwise a perfectly normal member of society no problem, go about your business, it's none of anyone else's business what you eat or when.
My definition of "morbidly obese" is some jabba the hutt thing that can't get out of bed, the NHS is mental calling guys who are just big and might like their bitter obese as it just dilutes the term.
Oi you skinny git, this fat b'stard has worked for the past 34 years and never claimed a benefit in my life. Fat yes, too fat to work No. I pay over a grand a month to the tax man plus of course my NI payments so if I need healthcare I damm well feel that I have paid for it.
Reread of Chris's post. You is just winging because you are too tight to buy your bitter and nobody will buy you one. Get over to Preston and I may buy you a cheapy tykey type one in the Bluebell. worth £1.50 to shut your whinging
yorkie_chris
03-02-11, 01:44 PM
Did you not see the bit "If you're "morbidly obese" but otherwise a perfectly normal member of society no problem, go about your business, it's none of anyone else's business what you eat or when."
So you pay your way, you're not funding your pie processing beer gurgling gut on anyone's money but your own... it's your choice.
454697819
03-02-11, 01:47 PM
technically obese? as in to the point of filling up a doorway? I think not. I don't mean slightly over the recommended weight you should be for your height/age/mentality or whatever.
And Nic, I realise it wasn't your point, just one I made. About your point, it is quite tragic the amount of food we get for the money now, but then it reflects exactly the financial problems this country is in.
ah right.. no I am not 30 stone lol
I agree to a point although eating dissorders are a whole nother ball game?
missyburd
03-02-11, 01:57 PM
God, I thought you were young too....:rolleyes:
I listen to radio4 too #shock horror# If you mean why don't I listen to radio1, I did when i was a teen, then the music talk a swift nosedive and it hurt my ears. Can't stand most of the djs on it too.
ah right.. no I am not 30 stone lol
I agree to a point although eating dissorders are a whole nother ball game?
Didn't think you were unless things really had taken a turn for the worse since AR08 ;-)
they are, but i fear if i venture near that topic i will be shot down again :-P
metalmonkey
03-02-11, 02:37 PM
Wasn't there talk of a fat tax?
So for the fat people who are really over weight they have pay more tax to pay for their health care which seems reasonable. If you have eaten yourself that way that way, then should pay for it. Its really simple if you consume too much and don't use it, then you will put on weight! Why can't people understand that? Same as the cat at home, which tends to sleep and eat rather than being o/s and killing mice and what not which it use to do very well.
I think its like any other person with an addidtion, then will deny the problem even thought its pretty dam clear they have problem not many people want to face up to their problems let alone deal with them.
I was talking to my Gran over xmas, about war time as she used to do all kinds of things to surive and about how they did they survie on rations. It was really interesting, thought she did well we didn't have any fatties then either!
What I find amazing is that their are people who starve to death, have illness becasue they can't even get enough of the basic food, where as we have people who die for being fat!
But there should a note that, some people through no fault of their own have put weight on for whatever reason then they should get all the help possiable.
I don't think it is that hard to make good food at home which is not only better for you, taste nicer and get this its cheaper...
dizzyblonde
03-02-11, 02:48 PM
I could bore you all to death with why the industry is cutting its chocolate bars and weights of tins down.....but I won't cause you lot won't believe me anyway.
SO..I will tell you all now that chocolate isn't fattening, its the massive lack of exercise and the amount of lard you eat for your tea that makes you fat.
Prior to working at Willy Wonkas, I'd eat pounds of the stuff, I have maintained pretty much the same weight all my adult life. I may be carrying a little extra baby flab now(obviously), but I am the same weight as I was ten years ago. :takeabow:
Guess what I've just eaten a 100g portion of Aero, whilst I walked to and from town pushing the pram.....and I won't see any of it appear on my ass:mrgreen:
That's because you have a high metabolism :)
timwilky
03-02-11, 02:52 PM
So if it isn't going to your bum, must be your boobs. No wonder you is guzzling choccy
dizzyblonde
03-02-11, 02:55 PM
So if it isn't going to your bum, must be your boobs. No wonder you is guzzling choccy
LOL Unfortunately not, they deflated back to their original size after I stopped feeding Oliver. Shame cause man were they some twin airbags:o
Milky Bar Kid
03-02-11, 02:55 PM
I could bore you all to death with why the industry is cutting its chocolate bars and weights of tins down.....but I won't cause you lot won't believe me anyway.
SO..I will tell you all now that chocolate isn't fattening, its the massive lack of exercise and the amount of lard you eat for your tea that makes you fat.
Prior to working at Willy Wonkas, I'd eat pounds of the stuff, I have maintained pretty much the same weight all my adult life. I may be carrying a little extra baby flab now(obviously), but I am the same weight as I was ten years ago. :takeabow:
Guess what I've just eaten a 100g portion of Aero, whilst I walked to and from town pushing the pram.....and I won't see any of it appear on my ass:mrgreen:
Tell me why...I'm interested!!!
DB, I, at the minute at least, am a bit like you in that I eat loads of it but as I am fairly active, don't seem to put much weight on. I suppose we are lucky though!
blue curvy jester
03-02-11, 02:59 PM
interestingly if you have a high muscle mass you are also considered to the medical proffesion as morbidly and clinically obese
to the point that all of the New Zealand rugby team at the last world cup fell into this catagory even with a fat ratio of 10-11%
dizzyblonde
03-02-11, 03:04 PM
Tell me why...I'm interested!!!
DB, I, at the minute at least, am a bit like you in that I eat loads of it but as I am fairly active, don't seem to put much weight on. I suppose we are lucky though!
I've got flappy jaw syndrome...its the secret to burning calories...talk people to death, keeps you trim;)
Seriously. As you little link said the cost of making chocolate has gone up. Cocoa import alone has increased massively. Then you have the massive cost of ferrying it around the country, and all the cost of packaging on top. If you make things smaller, you get more onto the waggon at the final end
A couple of years ago, Cadburys decreased the weight of their tins, can't remember how much, but it pretty much was so that the cost of 'said tin' didn't appear on the shop shelf in turn. When they did that everyone else followed suit. Willy WOnka, went from producing 1.2kg tins to 1kg tins, doesn't cost any more or any less to produce. They're even looking into a 'recycled' package and removing the tin altogether as its expensive. Willy Wonka doesn't make their tins onsite, its sourced out elsewhere, so is costly.
Everyone and everything is cutting back to save money, even penny pinching multi national corporations have to do it
missyburd
03-02-11, 03:05 PM
SO..I will tell you all now that chocolate isn't fattening
I'm sure it contributes more so than a substituted carrot does ;-)
dizzyblonde
03-02-11, 03:07 PM
I'm sure it contributes more so than a substituted carrot does ;-)
much less than the substituted carrots I use:p
yorkie_chris
03-02-11, 03:09 PM
Willy Wonka doesn't make their tins onsite, its sourced out elsewhere, so is costly.
That is nothing new, you seen what is involved in making tins? Lots of companies buy stuff as specialists can make it more cheaply, it's how economies work.
missyburd
03-02-11, 03:18 PM
much less than the substituted carrots I use:p
oh yes, somehow surrounded in cake and frosting takes away that healthy option too haha
dizzyblonde
03-02-11, 03:39 PM
That is nothing new, you seen what is involved in making tins? Lots of companies buy stuff as specialists can make it more cheaply, it's how economies work.
Not enirely know, but have some idea. Tin making is problematic.
Its all computer aided machinery, that make them wrong, which in turn buggers up our machinery! Downtime is expensive too, think how much money is wasted on temps sat idle picking their noses, whilst our machinery is buggered due to tins not being made right:rolleyes: The tonnage of chocolate we churn out per 24 hrs is enough to make anybodies eyes water!
Littlepeahead
03-02-11, 03:42 PM
That fast metabolism thing is nonsense. People who weigh more have faster metabolisms because their bosy has to work harder to drag all that flab about.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/health/treatments/healthy_living/your_weight/medical_myths.shtml
They had 2 friends on a TV show which was quite scientific not one of those game shows. As teenagers were nomal sized but by their mid twenties, one was thin, one overweight and they assumed it was thin + fat and fast and fat = slow metabolism.
The thin girls said 'I eat loads' and the fat girl said 'I eat hardly anything'. So over the course of a couple of weeks they kept a track of everything they ate, and the portion sizes plus their activity levels.
Turned out the fat girl had a much faster metabolism than her skinny mate but the truth was, she was eating much more than her thin friend and was doing less exercise. Bigger portions for every meal, biscuits with her tea, sweets - it was all adding up.
No great scientific revelations there really.
(Just had 2 squares of Galaxy caramel my boss put on my desk - quite nice - but is he trying to make me fat so I can't work?)
Bluefish
03-02-11, 06:17 PM
it's not their fault they is fat, it's their genes.
Fat people p*ss me off.
Too fat to work, so they get loads of benefits and continue to stuff their useless faces, meanwhile burdening the public health service. Hell fire I used to work at a place that sells the lifting kit for these piles of blubber and I've seen the prices...
So how's this for a solution, the only benefit they're "entitled" to is a battering with a couple of onions in a sock if they whinge and they get 3 healthy meals a day and f*** all else. Problem solved, at one fell swoop we save money on benefits, healthcare and within a few months said whale will be fit to rejoin society. Sorted.
Did anyone see that "Britains fattest man" program a while ago? Whose daily intake included 3 full breakfasts, an indian banquet for 10 and about 15 pints. No WAY should some leeching c*** be able to afford that lifestyle.
If you're "morbidly obese" but otherwise a perfectly normal member of society no problem, go about your business, it's none of anyone else's business what you eat or when.
My definition of "morbidly obese" is some jabba the hutt thing that can't get out of bed, the NHS is mental calling guys who are just big and might like their bitter obese as it just dilutes the term.
Amen! I work in a tyre depot, we get fat people pull up outside in their nice government paid car and just wait for you to go out and see them and then pretty much demand we check/adjust their tyre pressures, they might grunt a 'thanks' if you're lucky.
Bring back national service, will sort out the chavs and half the future fatties.
Ricky Gervais talking about the obese on his new DVD. LMAO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoI0xSQG1cI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQnsKbXzzBU&feature=relmfu
Cadbury are downsizing...
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/food-and-drink/news/chocs-away-as-dairy-milk-shrinks-2202753.html
I think it's a ridiculous price as it is for a bar of Dairy Milk and I definately won't buy one if they are making it any smaller!!!!!!!!!!!!
Seems to be the way of things these days, more money for less.:rolleyes:
CADBURY, SORT IT OUT!!!A bit Krafty..geddit, Kraft...
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