Test rode the new speed triple. [Archive] - SV650.org

SUPERSTARDJ01

10-02-11, 08:47 AM

Well, I want a new bike and can't make my mind up between a Tuono, speed triple or super duke, So i've tested the Super Duke and will be again soon, but yesterday I test rode the new Speed Triple, originally thought I would be on the old style (which I prefer looks wise), but when I arrived they had the new style ready and waiting, I thought to myself "I can't afford a new new one but I'll give it ago anyways".

First impressions were hmmmmm I'm not sure on those lights but all doubt about the bike went as soon as the sale person started that baby, oh wow just like the super duke with the akras (this had twin arrows) it sounded like a muscle car, or as a friend put it the bike moves the world around it not the other way round, so I pulled off gave it some welly in 1st rolled off the throttle (thanks to a car :smt019) and I heard pop pop pop oh my god my zx6 does this too but jesus not to this standard, big :mrgreen:.

Anyway, to get to Milton Keynes to show the wife the beast, I thought country lanes is the only way to go, and first off all it felt weird but in a good way, very nice and smooth with no chug chug chug just effortless, I remember thinking to myself this bike is just effortless no vibration no nothing but except the suspenion was hard, it did handle very well I would say because of the riding postiion it felt more natural than the zx6 and felt as though I had more control, but it did also feel like I was going faster than you actually was.

So I left the country lanes and went up the A5, gave it a nice handful of throttle and like most bikes it pulls like a freight train, strong and smooth but this for me was a little unnerving because the front wheel was squirming around a little, now it was dry and wind free, but I did get used it and got to 115mph until traffic slowed me down, came off the A5 met the wife (who liked it, thankfully) headed back to Triumph had a chance to filter and at slow speeds it's very managable (this is were the super duke failed slightly for me), one thing I did notice through is I did about 20 miles or so, when I left Triumph the bike said I had 110 miles left to the tank but after my 20 mile or so journey I was left with about 75 left so it eats fuel, but it is 1050cc.

Got back on my zx6 and the wrist pain started straight away and although I love the power of the zx6 it's not something that is going to make me keep it.

here are some pics of the beast, oh and two more things the lights are awesome compared to my zx6 for illumination perposes, still ugly though, and the mirrors actually work well.

So the bike gets a massive :smt040 from me.

http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/5761/picture018kx.jpg

http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/8762/picture019u.jpg

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/4237/picture020cv.jpg

Reeder

10-02-11, 09:49 AM

Always nice to hear peoples views and thoughts on bikes.
Are you test riding the Tuono?

kaivalagi

10-02-11, 09:51 AM

I went to my Triumph dealership yesterday just to look at the Tiger 800 and the Street and Speed Triples, they offered up the best trade in deal for my SV I've had from anywhere yet too...

There is just something about those Triple cylinder bikes...

I'll be doing some demo rides through the summer, I plan on a new bike for next season unless I get the deal of a century offered :)

Have you test ridden the Tuono yet? I just wonder how you feel that compares to the Speed Triple and Super Duke?

Always nice to hear peoples views and thoughts on bikes.
Are you test riding the Tuono?
Beat me to the question...

pookie

10-02-11, 09:57 AM

Have you tried heli bars on the zx6r. I put some on the p7f and it made a more relaxed ride.

SUPERSTARDJ01

10-02-11, 10:21 AM

Have you tried heli bars on the zx6r. I put some on the p7f and it made a more relaxed ride.

No I haven't, you got pics?

SUPERSTARDJ01

10-02-11, 10:23 AM

I went to my Triumph dealership yesterday just to look at the Tiger 800 and the Street and Speed Triples, they offered up the best trade in deal for my SV I've had from anywhere yet too...

There is just something about those Triple cylinder bikes...

I'll be doing some demo rides through the summer, I plan on a new bike for next season unless I get the deal of a century offered :)

Have you test ridden the Tuono yet? I just wonder how you feel that compares to the Speed Triple and Super Duke?

Beat me to the question...

Not test rode the Tuono yet but is next on my hit list, the speed triple is a much smoother ride than the Super Duke, but the Duke is more exciting, for day to day use i'm leaning towards the triple.

10-02-11, 11:01 AM

There is just something about those Triple cylinder bikes...

That they break...?

SoulKiss

10-02-11, 11:04 AM

Squirmy front end is probably just due to the wider bars, ie its you and little movements that causes it, not the bike.

I have that feeling when I get on the Zed after being on the SV

kaivalagi

10-02-11, 11:08 AM

That they break...?

They're not that bad nowadays are they? I heard of the oil leaks of the past and that they can drink engine oil generally too...but not now surely?

Something about those triples was a good sentiment...i.e. the sound, the smoother delivery versus a twin but more low down grunt than an IL4 etc etc

By all means educate me :)

10-02-11, 11:11 AM

rictus01

10-02-11, 11:12 AM

I've always maintained that big triple is one of the best real world engines out there, I've not ridden the latest version yet, and to be fair it'd still be a little heavy on the knee, I love my Superduke, immense fun but it's nowhere near as versatile as the speed triple, for example it was virtually impossible to handle on ice & snow, where as the Speed 4 and indeed the Speed 3 are far more manageable.

Glad you enjoyed it, keep us update as to progress.

Cheers Mark.

rictus01

10-02-11, 11:21 AM

can't really speak on the 1050 or 675; as apart from test rides and a few minor jobs I've done for others I've not owned either, but the 955i is a great engine, had one gearbox problem on a 78k one, but covered over 100k on 6 others without anything more than everyday running issues you would expect with that sort of mileage.

Built quality :smt102, IMO the original T5's of the late 90's-02 were built to last, the modern ones perhaps aren't as good, but no worse than the Jap stuff I'd say.

Cheers Mark.

kaivalagi

10-02-11, 11:22 AM

I really wanted a 675 but was put off them by the dealer. Everyone I know that's had one since I considered has had fairly major problems (admitidely mainly on the 1050 engine)... but all have had build quality issues. Ask Orose or Specialone. Rear pads and disc needing replacing at 3k???

Mmmmm, might be worth tracking down a few triumph forums just to see what is happening in general with the various bikes...

I am very tempted by the tiger 800 and that would be a risk I guess as it's new out, although based on an existing engine. Any nasty problems with the 675 that you've heard of or is it all 1050 stuff?

Also, the alternatives mentioned are a KTM and an Aprilia, are they better in the reliability/quality stakes than a triumph?

454697819

10-02-11, 11:44 AM

tuono..

That is all

Reeder

10-02-11, 11:58 AM

I want a tuono, but I'm too young and they're too expensive :(

dyzio

10-02-11, 12:06 PM

I'm too young and they're too expensive :(

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_SwlBT111q3w/TTlqJQTDZtI/AAAAAAAAARU/Cia-GtxYBdw/s800/tuono.JPG

How about a 1st gen Tuono? This one was bought for £2500, they are not as expensive to insure as other thou bikes, at least the Falcow isn't.

SUPERSTARDJ01

10-02-11, 12:06 PM

I am also interested in a Buell XB12s Lightning.

SUPERSTARDJ01

10-02-11, 12:07 PM

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_SwlBT111q3w/TTlqJQTDZtI/AAAAAAAAARU/Cia-GtxYBdw/s800/tuono.JPG

How about a 1st gen Tuono? This one was bought for £2500, they are not as expensive to insure as other thou bikes, at least the Falcow isn't.

I just can't get past the front. how does it go :mrgreen:

10-02-11, 12:08 PM

I just can't get past the front. how does it go :mrgreen:

It does look a bit of an after thought doesnt it lol... a nice streetfighter style head light and remove the mirror and it would look awesome though.

kaivalagi

10-02-11, 12:09 PM

The Tuono is in my test ride short list, for me the next bike has to be a bike with a comfortable riding position i.e. riser bars not clips but I can't make my mind up whether I want a naked or faired bike...it's one of these naked bikes: Super Duke, Tuono (can you call it faired...), Speed Triple (hence my interest in this thread) or one of these more adventure style bikes: Tiger, SMT, Adventure - for now :)

I will be busy test riding all of those when it gets a little nicer out there (although I need to track down a demo Tuono and Adventure in my area...none available to test at the local dealership).

Are there any IL4's I should consider bearing in mind I want lower down grunt as I don't want to have to rev the nuts off a bike...

edit: Sorry, I don't mean to de-rail the thread, just curious while on the topic of these style bikes

10-02-11, 12:11 PM

If your thinking IL4 then there is a couple of options like the CB1000R which is a super comfy bike, goes very well too.

Reeder

10-02-11, 12:14 PM

The older style Tuonos just dont do it for me personally :(
I love the look of the factory ones too with their bling frame. Expensive taste huh? (others may say chavy)

Superstar - I too really like the buells! They look so industrial and cool. I'd love one of the 900's.

kaivalagi

10-02-11, 12:14 PM

I wouldn't mind trying out the crossrunner when it arrives too, but not sure if that engine will be flat like the VFR is said to be...Whatever it is it has to have ABS available...

Luckypants

10-02-11, 12:16 PM

but not sure if that engine will be flat like the VFR is said to be...

:smt046

that is all

Reeder

10-02-11, 12:17 PM

Isn't the VFR a V4?

dyzio

10-02-11, 12:18 PM

The older style Tuonos just dont do it for me personally :(

Nor me to be honest, but that's a lot of bike for that money.

kaivalagi

10-02-11, 12:21 PM

:smt046

that is all

Very nice to laugh and run...care to explain?

Okay so a little context for my thinking, I want a bike I do not have to rev the nuts off and a VFR will perform well when revved but is fairly mundane at the lower range of revs right? Atleast that's what I have heard, this is all hear say.

I'll give anything a try once though, care to convince me otherwise?

And don't compare against the SV, compare against the Tuono, Tiger etc

Isn't the VFR a V4?

Yep, v-tec...half the valves until 7K I think...hence not so much power until higher revs...a test ride would give me a better understanding or even someone posting what they've found from owning one maybe? ;)

Reeder

10-02-11, 12:24 PM

Nor me to be honest, but that's a lot of bike for that money.

Yeah probably is a good buy, but I just couldn't ever buy something that I don't enjoy the looks of :(

I thought V4's are meant to be quite torquey? Friend's dad has an RSV4 Factory (i know different to the VFR:mrgreen:) but they've said how it pulls like a total train from nearly any revs?

kaivalagi

10-02-11, 12:33 PM

I thought V4's are meant to be quite torquey? Friend's dad has an RSV4 Factory (i know different to the VFR:mrgreen:) but they've said how it pulls like a total train from nearly any revs?

But it has a system called V-tec...half the valves until 7K I think...hence not so much power until higher revs...a test ride would give me a better understanding or even someone posting what they've found from owning one maybe?

Apologies for my ignorance, I am fairly new to bikes and so don't have the understanding or background to the technology as some do...a little at the mercy of others you might say ;)

edit: derailed so apologies...I'll just shut up and read with interest

hardhat_harry

10-02-11, 12:36 PM

I have a 675 and no issues after over 2 years

Luckypants

10-02-11, 12:37 PM

Very nice to laugh and run...care to explainAt the risk of derailing the OP's thread...

Yes the VTEC VFRs have two characters, quite torquey and relaxed low down and revvy once in the VTEC zone. But the engine is definitely NOT flat. The low down torquey nature can feel a little flat if you have been spending time in the VTEC zone, but there is actually plenty of shove. The power delivery is very linear so this also makes it feel 'flat' because there is no obvious power rush like on a SS600 (for instance). The VFR Fi800 and VFR750F are also paragons of smooth, linear power.

The specific output for an 800cc engine is quite low at approx 115 horses, less than many 600s and the VFR is a heavy bike. So it is not going to win any drag races. Where the VFR really works is on real world roads, where there is plenty of torque to fire you out of corners and enough power (and revs) to get you up to silly speeds very rapidly. As an all day bike that can do everything, it is a great bike. You can ride all day keeping the revs down and surfing the torque in a relaxed manner, or start tapping the gear lever to get a wriggle on and enjoy that V4 growl and the howl from the airbox as the second set of valves kick in. :D

The Achilles heel is the lack of ground clearance though, so if scratching the back roads is your thing, you will be scrapping pegs, exhaust and fairing in fairly short order.

/derail

kaivalagi

10-02-11, 12:42 PM

Thanks for that, on the list for a test ride now along with a crossrunner if I like the look when I see it in the flesh, for what it's worth the VFR ticked all the boxes other than the v-tec thing which there is a lot of negativity about. I will give it a go for myself and make my own call on it now :thumbsup:

I'll shut up now, sorry for the derail, and I look forward to Tuono feedback :)

Luckypants

10-02-11, 12:52 PM

, for what it's worth the VFR ticked all the boxes other than the v-tec thing which there is a lot of negativity about.

Usually put about by folks who rode an early or badly set up model. Post 03 models were better but post 06 are the best. I currently have an 06 and an 05 model in the garage. When I sell the 05 I will also be looking at a Tuono or similar for the twisties around here, so hence the interest in this thread.

barwel1992

10-02-11, 12:56 PM

just to tease

http://www.aprilia.com/userfiles/image/101102_eicma/Tuono_V4_R_600a.jpg

Maximum power at crankshaft 162 hp (119 kW) at 11,000 rpm
Maximum torque at crankshaft 110 Nm at 9,000 rpm

kaivalagi

10-02-11, 01:14 PM

That the new V4 one? mmmmmm, like the fairing and ride position isn't gonna kill like the RSV4...when is it due to be released?

orose

10-02-11, 01:25 PM

All my speed triple engine problems appear to have been down to the dealers lying about what they said they'd done to it... when it returned from the one im using now, it hasn't used hardly any oil at all in the 5000 or so miles since.

SUPERSTARDJ01

10-02-11, 01:52 PM

Reeder

10-02-11, 02:10 PM

just to tease

http://www.aprilia.com/userfiles/image/101102_eicma/Tuono_V4_R_600a.jpg

Maximum power at crankshaft 162 hp (119 kW) at 11,000 rpm
Maximum torque at crankshaft 110 Nm at 9,000 rpm

Sorry but the front of that thing is just feckin fowl.
It's like they couldn't decide if they wanted it naked or faired so just left some bits on. Truely disgusting. Saying that, the tank backwards is true beauty.

kaivalagi

10-02-11, 02:35 PM

Sorry but the front of that thing is just feckin fowl.
It's like they couldn't decide if they wanted it naked or faired so just left some bits on. Truely disgusting. Saying that, the tank backwards is true beauty.
I like it myself, it stops for front part looking all alone and gives some shape around the air intakes

STRAMASHER

10-02-11, 03:05 PM

just to tease

http://www.aprilia.com/userfiles/image/101102_eicma/Tuono_V4_R_600a.jpg

Maximum power at crankshaft 162 hp (119 kW) at 11,000 rpm
Maximum torque at crankshaft 110 Nm at 9,000 rpm

Like the look of this in the pics, but you just know it will be midget sized in real life. :(

Tuono 2003 Racing is still on my dream garage list. Big, black, bad-azz and bling.

barwel1992

10-02-11, 03:23 PM

Like the look of this in the pics, but you just know it will be midget sized in real life. :(

Tuono 2003 Racing is still on my dream garage list. Big, black, bad-azz and bling.

funny thing is the rsv4 fitted fine and felt comfy but all the other litre bikes in that range(new r1, zx10r) i didn't feel comfy at all :rolleyes: need to fine one of these to sit on

then wait for a bout 4 year so i can afford one :p

Reeder

10-02-11, 03:30 PM

I've just spent the last 30 minutes looking at the kwak 636's. I want one.

SUPERSTARDJ01

10-02-11, 03:38 PM

I've just spent the last 30 minutes looking at the kwak 636's. I want one.

What year?

AndyBrad

10-02-11, 03:42 PM

Like the look of this in the pics, but you just know it will be midget sized in real life. :(

Tuono 2003 Racing is still on my dream garage list. Big, black, bad-azz and bling.

i would love one but its gonna cost £££

Reeder

10-02-11, 03:54 PM

What year?

05/06 :)
Can't afford one though.

kaivalagi

10-02-11, 04:08 PM

05/06 :)
Can't afford one though.

Atleast wait until you've reset to zero points first anyway :)

Reeder

10-02-11, 04:13 PM

I'm not waiting just over two and a half years!

kaivalagi

10-02-11, 04:21 PM

I'm not waiting just over two and a half years!
I can see 12 points coming your way if you're not careful then lol, down to 6 soon but it's easy to another 6...especially on a sports kwak

Reeder

10-02-11, 05:36 PM

I can see 12 points coming your way if you're not careful then lol, down to 6 soon but it's easy to another 6...especially on a sports kwak

Then so be it :)

Gazza77

10-02-11, 05:53 PM

I never had any mechanical problems with my 1050 Sprint, and it never used any oil. Electrics were another matter however, although I suspect that they were mainly after-marked alarm related.

STRAMASHER

11-02-11, 08:24 AM

i would love one but its gonna cost £££

New bike prices are scary across the board innit. :(

Aye so, more used porn...

PHWOAARR!

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g87/stramasher/TUOR_01.jpg

AndyBrad

11-02-11, 08:28 AM

no thanks :(

i love the tourno but the front on the old one just looks wrong. I quite like the rsv now but i just know its not the bike for me. shame really

SUPERSTARDJ01

11-02-11, 08:31 AM

no thanks :(

i love the tourno but the front on the old one just looks wrong. I quite like the rsv now but i just know its not the bike for me. shame really

If you look long enough it sort of grows on you.

11-02-11, 08:32 AM

just to tease

http://www.aprilia.com/userfiles/image/101102_eicma/Tuono_V4_R_600a.jpg

Maximum power at crankshaft 162 hp (119 kW) at 11,000 rpm
Maximum torque at crankshaft 110 Nm at 9,000 rpm

I like that a lot... if that actually get released, looks like that when released and I fit on it without killing my knee to much then I would consider it.

How much is it going to cost? the website doesn't say but it dos have a picture from a less flatering angle...

http://www.aprilia.com/userfiles/image/101102_eicma/eicma_tuono_large.jpg

SUPERSTARDJ01

11-02-11, 08:34 AM

I can see 12 points coming your way if you're not careful then lol, down to 6 soon but it's easy to another 6...especially on a sports kwak

I have ZX6R B1H (the best version) and still have 0 points after 16 mths of owning it, but it is a beast and will chew you up if you do not respect it. :reaper:

kaivalagi

11-02-11, 08:45 AM

I have ZX6R B1H (the best version) and still have 0 points after 16 mths of owning it, but it is a beast and will chew you up if you do not respect it. :reaper:

Yeah, I was referring to a sports kwak in Reeders possession though :lol:

Obviously you're a more sensible rider, or atleast sensible when it matters :D

edit: mind you have you seen the speeds the 2011 gsx-r 6 can achieve (almost 180mph on the clocks): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FslaVtOPM4

SUPERSTARDJ01

11-02-11, 09:18 AM

I've had my 04 ZX doing 175 mph and it is 99% accurate because I have fitted a speedo healer, believe me it's scary as hell.

yorkie_chris

11-02-11, 09:30 AM

How much is it going to cost? the website doesn't say but it dos have a picture from a less flatering angle...

What is it with these manufacturers putting fairings and silly bits of plastic on naked bikes?

kaivalagi

11-02-11, 09:30 AM

I've had my 04 ZX doing 175 mph and it is 99% accurate because I have fitted a speedo healer, believe me it's scary as hell.

Scary enough doing 135 on an SV to be fair...I do wonder sometimes whether I should just stay with the SV indefinitely...I think ultimately I will want something with more poke low down but will not want any more top end than an SV can give....

BTW, I watched a few Tuono vids on youtube last night, the acceleration of that thing is very very scary!

What is it with these manufacturers putting fairings and silly bits of plastic on naked bikes?

Looks to me like something they've done to support/semi-hide the air scoops, original look though...not sure I like it but I am sure I could get used to it :)

11-02-11, 09:35 AM

Scary enough doing 135 on an SV to be fair...I do wonder sometimes whether I should just stay with the SV indefinitely...I think ultimately I will want something with more poke low down but will not want any more top end than an SV can give....

Its not scary at all... on an sv with bouncy suspension and small brakes maybe but on a bike built for it it's not. What is scary is how slow it feel when you get back down to 70mph lol

SoulKiss

11-02-11, 09:37 AM

One question I HAVE to ask...

Considered an 07 onwards Z750?

yorkie_chris

11-02-11, 09:41 AM

Its not scary at all... on an sv with bouncy suspension and small brakes maybe but on a bike built for it it's not. What is scary is how slow it feel when you get back down to 70mph lol

Try it on a bike with 80's suspension. Put hair on your chest.

11-02-11, 09:42 AM

Try it on a bike with 80's suspension. Put hair on your chest.

SV? ;)

In all seriousness though the Laverda Jota is scary

kaivalagi

11-02-11, 09:42 AM

Its not scary at all... on an sv with bouncy suspension and small brakes maybe but on a bike built for it it's not. What is scary is how slow it feel when you get back down to 70mph lol

Yeah, not good aye....especially when you're coming back into urban roads from a nice little ride...everything is in slow mo

I can see me making a purchase this summer following some test rides regardless of what is best for me, the little boy in my will take over :lol:

Reeder

11-02-11, 09:47 AM

Yeah, I was referring to a sports kwak in Reeders possession though :lol:

Obviously you're a more sensible rider, or atleast sensible when it matters :D

edit: mind you have you seen the speeds the 2011 gsx-r 6 can achieve (almost 180mph on the clocks): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FslaVtOPM4

I may have points galore, but I like to think that I'm a capable enough rider and dont do anything too dangerous ;)
I'd be fine on a sports 600... its when I get a litre in the future you'll need to start worrying about me

kaivalagi

11-02-11, 09:51 AM

I may have points galore, but I like to think that I'm a capable enough rider and dont do anything too dangerous ;)
I'd be fine on a sports 600... its when I get a litre in the future you'll need to start worrying about me
I'm sure you're capable but if you get too many points you'll lose your licence, simples...just saying...I think you're best staying on the SV like me for a bit longer...
I am saying all this, what's the betting next time I'm out I get pulled :lol:

SUPERSTARDJ01

11-02-11, 09:51 AM

I may have points galore, but I like to think that I'm a capable enough rider and dont do anything too dangerous ;)
I'd be fine on a sports 600... its when I get a litre in the future you'll need to start worrying about me

You just need to know when and where to give it some, remember the golden rules in a 30 do 30, in a 40 do 40, in a 50 do 50 and in 70 as long as it's clear do xxx - enter number here. :mrgreen:

SUPERSTARDJ01

11-02-11, 09:53 AM

One question I HAVE to ask...

Considered an 07 onwards Z750?

Not really, have thought about the Z1000 and where it is a capable bike, it just has no pizaz or sparkle.

Reeder

11-02-11, 10:06 AM

I'm sure you're capable but if you get too many points you'll lose your licence, simples...just saying...I think you're best staying on the SV like me for a bit longer...
I am saying all this, what's the betting next time I'm out I get pulled :lol:

You just need to know when and where to give it some, remember the golden rules in a 30 do 30, in a 40 do 40, in a 50 do 50 and in 70 as long as it's clear do xxx - enter number here. :mrgreen:

What bike I have will make no difference tbh. If it goes over 70 I'm able to get points :mrgreen: to be honest my points have been accrued for stupid things. 3 for going through a red light (11:30 at night, had just turned red and no one was about other than an unmarked traffic cop), 3 for going a bit too fast in a 40:smt083 (which I now don't do really), 3 for going 90 on the A14 at 10:30pm on a sunday night again with an unmarked traffic cop and then the final 3 points were for not going fast enough really... :smt083

I've realised over the years that there isn't really any point going quicker than you should in areas that are less than 50 or 60. It's the main place where people get caught, and I've never ever seen a policeman with a speed gun round any twisties... so kinda goes to prove that it's where the 'quicker' riding should be done - Just gotta watch out for those unmarked police bikes we now have patroling!. Now I've got a slower car too it helps keep the speed down also.

SoulKiss

11-02-11, 10:08 AM

Not really, have thought about the Z1000 and where it is a capable bike, it just has no pizaz or sparkle.

My thoughts on approaching it at first, it was naked, which I didnt want, but it was one of the 0% Credit options when I had to replace my "dead" SV.

Give it a go tho, the engine/fuelling has been described as the best FI they have ever tried by someone on here who has ridden many bikes over the years.

kaivalagi

11-02-11, 10:13 AM

What bike I have will make no difference tbh. If it goes over 70 I'm able to get points :mrgreen:

fair point, any reasonable bike can break the speed limits easily :) And a lot of those points do sound unlucky, not nice enough to the police officer?

I've only seen one speed trap in Norfolk on the B roads and that was coming into a 40 zone for a stretch of houses that I wouldn't call a villiage...

You're right, having fun in areas with no junctions/houses is for the most part fine, it's when in deliberately restricted speed areas such as those 50's and 40's that care is needed for all sorts of reasons

I find I am at my worst after a nice healthy ride and am on my way home coming into the city...I need to continually put myself in check as everything just seems so slow in urban speeds

/derail

kaivalagi

11-02-11, 10:18 AM

Any MV Brutale around to test ride?

Reeder

11-02-11, 10:23 AM

Or ducati streetfighter :D

SUPERSTARDJ01

11-02-11, 11:35 AM

both the MV and Ducati are out of my price range I will have around £4.5-£5k.

Reeder

11-02-11, 11:39 AM

FZ1?
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/200948346998562/sort/priceasc/cc-from/1000cc/price-to/6000/model/fz/make/yamaha/postcode/nr324hj/page/1/radius/1500/advert-type/featured-listing/dealer/12695/usedbikes?logcode=flp

kaivalagi

11-02-11, 11:50 AM

Mmmmm I reckon a Tuono would be the best bet with that budget...if you could stretch to 5.5 you could get really low mileage 2008 model easily :)
Do you think you could get a 2008 Super Duke for that? They seem to hold their value a little better

edit: just roaming through autotrader and you can get an unregistered 2011 Tuono for less than £7K, mmmmmmm, the V4 is coming aye...

SUPERSTARDJ01

11-02-11, 12:54 PM

SUPERSTARDJ01

11-02-11, 12:55 PM

SUPERSTARDJ01

11-02-11, 12:55 PM

Testing the Super Duke on a week Sat at 2pm.

kaivalagi

11-02-11, 01:02 PM

I can pick up an 06 possibly an 07 plate SD which I'm ok with as they all seem to be low milage, just not sure as an everyday bike?

Could you use a power commander or alike? The SMT uses the LC8 but is supposedly a great all rounder so you would hope the SD could be calmed down a little.....would be nice if you had mode selectors too like the more expensive bikes out there :)

Is the triumph speed triple currently sitting pretty, is it the one you'd go for if you had to right now? The idea of the triple engine does appeal compared to the brutish behaviour of a Tuono or SD

SUPERSTARDJ01

11-02-11, 01:18 PM

Could you use a power commander or alike? The SMT uses the LC8 but is supposedly a great all rounder so you would hope the SD could be calmed down a little.....would be nice if you had mode selectors too like the more expensive bikes out there :)

Is the triumph speed triple currently sitting pretty, is it the one you'd go for if you had to right now? The idea of the triple engine does appeal compared to the brutish behaviour of a Tuono or SD

TBH if I had the money right now I would still test each of them before I decide, right now my head says triple, my heart says SD or Buell and curiosity says Tuono, so very confused at the mo.

Reeder

11-02-11, 02:00 PM

Test ride a Buell :)

SUPERSTARDJ01

11-02-11, 04:17 PM

Tuono test ride booked in for 26/02.

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/1062/tuono.jpg

Reeder

11-02-11, 04:20 PM

Wow wow wow.
So jealous!

SUPERSTARDJ01

23-02-11, 02:19 PM

Hi,

So I test rode the the Duke, wow they are powerful yet very stable, I was crapping myself coming up to a mini r/about thinking how the hell am I gonna get round this, but it's just so capable at any speed, but bewarned if you lack in consentration it will rip you face off.

http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/6054/picture001gj.jpg

Reeder

23-02-11, 02:21 PM

Tuono next :D

AndyBrad

23-02-11, 02:34 PM

so comparisons between the duke and speedy?

SUPERSTARDJ01

23-02-11, 03:41 PM

The Speed triple is more sedate\tame and user friendly if you like, the triple doesn't have the instant engine breaking of the Duke and has a lower centre of gravity, the duke is quite a tall beast i'm only 5'9 and I was on tip toes, but surprisingly enough it was very stable at low speeds and the noise was more brutal than the triple, where as the triple shook the rear, popped a lot & and was mental the duke was just f**king LOUD, like a hyped up muscle car it's mental.

I would not recommend a Duke to anyone new or even newish to biking, I think it's like sticking a 17yr old just passed their test behind the wheel of a Dodge charger or even an F1 car, your not gonna be able to handle it without the experience.

yorkie_chris

23-02-11, 03:48 PM

I'd have the duke, no questions.

If I wanted something more everyday useable I'd have an older speed triple rather than these new fanny friendly ones.

SUPERSTARDJ01

23-02-11, 04:03 PM

I'd have the duke, no questions.

If I wanted something more everyday useable I'd have an older speed triple rather than these new fanny friendly ones.

The bennifit of living in Milton Keynes is 90% of ours roads are 60-70mph so if I got the Duke would need to worry about slow riding ability of the beast.

rictus01

23-02-11, 04:21 PM

I'd have the duke, no questions.

If I wanted something more everyday useable I'd have an older speed triple rather than these new fanny friendly ones.

Can't argue with that........;)

the Superduke has it's limitation, but wow what a ride, as focused as any supermoto, but imagine it with a massive turbo fitted, excitment all the way.

Although I've done some serious mileage on it; it's by no means a distance machine, well not without making you far more tired than most bikes would, much better on 100-200 mile play days.....:)

and of course an excuse to post a pic.

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/34955_412303994134_621884134_4722310_7531971_n.jpg

As Chris says the older 955i speed triple is a great bike, as I know the engine very well it's easy to get the most out of it, I've ridden the 1050 (05 model) a half dozen times and they have softened it a bit to make it more "user friendly", which I'm not keen on, it could probably be sorted out with a few changes and tuneboy, haven't tired the new one so that could be better I don't know.

Fortunately I've had experience of many bikes, but if I didn't have the knee problem and could have but two; I'd probably have the superduke and a 99-02 speed triple as my perfect pair of bikes.

Cheers Mark.

yorkie_chris

23-02-11, 04:23 PM

and they have softened it a bit to make it more "user friendly", which I'm not keen on, it could probably be sorted out with a few changes and tuneboy, haven't tired the new one so that could be better I don't know.

They've softened the looks too, looks like they've drafted in some eyetie poofter to make it look pretty.
NOT what a speed triple is about FFS triumph!!

rictus01

23-02-11, 04:28 PM

yeah I looked at one in the local dealers recently when I was down there with Matt, I could live with the body changes (just about), but the twin chrome headlight bowls are a speed triple thing, not really that into the black plastic shaped things they have now, Oh and those rad covers would have to go to.

AndyBrad

23-02-11, 04:41 PM

got to love the 05 shape tripple imo. new and old, classic shape and i could get my leg over easier than the 995i.

yorkie_chris

23-02-11, 05:00 PM

Nope, not growing on me at all.

955i one has lovely sweeping lines. New one they've obviously just ripped off a ducati seat unit, and they were a wheezing ugly bag of sh*t.

Same with the exhausts, for the old 'un you could get gorgeous underseat system which looked and sounded awesome without getting in the way of your kit.

Frame still looks nice, tank's alright, front's alright. Nice forks and stuff but I hear they're not much crack. I'd really rather have working right way ups than more form than function shiny ones.

Yurgh. Way to ruin one of the two bikes I'd actually buy new! (if I had any money...)