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-Ralph-
22-02-11, 02:01 PM
Look at this I found today
http://www.registeredabroad.com/eu/en/
Discuss...
Fruity-ya-ya
22-02-11, 02:04 PM
Not much I can say that will not be removed by a moderator (blue).
This surely cannot be for real.
I want a slovakian licence!!!
-Ralph-
22-02-11, 02:13 PM
There's TWO ways to obtain a European Union driving licence.
First way is to exchange your current driving licence, you complete our application form and we print it out and translate some of your driving licence and translate the application form, put it all together and apply for an E.U. licence. This is a way to obtain driving categories that you select on the application form as the foreign issuing authority will look at the translation and not the licence
The second way is to make a declaration that your licence has been lost/mislaid/stolen in a certain country that we know about. No other proof that you have even passed a test is required, just your sworn declaration. They will issue you with a temporary driving licence which we can then get translated and exchanged for an E.U. licence. SNEAKY? Yes, but Illegal? We have been advised NO.
Some countries driving licence departments wont talk to other E.U. countries, so nobody bothers to check if the licence you present for exchange is even REAL or not, it could be a 20 dollar fake driving licence card and no one knows or even cares.
Driving endorsements are totally lost once you exchange your licence with another country, giving you a clean licence.
Who knows, if true, it sounds like they are just working loopholes the system.
andrewsmith
22-02-11, 02:15 PM
But if fraud by deception if your get caught and the Italians and french do check
-Ralph-
22-02-11, 02:17 PM
But if fraud by deception if your get caught and the Italians and french do check
How do you know that the Italians and French check?
andrewsmith
22-02-11, 02:20 PM
They seem to do us often enough for speeding and the get a address you have to check a licence or plate
-Ralph-
22-02-11, 02:38 PM
They seem to do us often enough for speeding and the get a address you have to check a licence or plate
Have you had speeding fines from France and Italy come through the post then?
You don't have to check a license or plate, just a plate. If you're a foreign authority wanting to check a license, then you must somehow have those license details in your possession. In the case of speeding, you must have been stopped at the roadside, in which case they'll on-the-spot fine, or arrest you, not send the fine to your address. I don't think they'd try to check the validity of your license for speeding in a foreign country anyway.
As far as I was aware only Luxembourg and Switzerland were linked up with France in terms of the French authorities being able to issue a speeding ticket to a foreign number plate. Maybe more are linked up now I don't know. I've certainly set off more French speed cameras in my UK registered car than I can count.
Still, even if the French and Italians could check a license plate and send a speeding fine, that doesn't mean they can or would check the validity of a driving license from other parts of the world, that they were exchanging. Try to avoid posting stuff as fact when actually you have no info to back it up.
andrewsmith
22-02-11, 03:42 PM
I'll shut up then.
But the first point still stands is that is fraud by deception if caught someone checks the licence.
brennan
22-02-11, 07:31 PM
I cant believe that this can happen. It says on the site theyve been going for five years, surely someone must have clocked on to this by now. I wonder how many of these "fake" licenses there are over here now.
I found it safer and easier to pass my bike and car tests in Malta when I was 18 and get a Maltese licence at my Maltese address as a back up in case I was banned in the UK. I still have the Maltese licence as well as my UK one as I renewed it when they changed to the photocard ones.
brennan
22-02-11, 10:23 PM
I found it safer and easier to pass my bike and car tests in Malta when I was 18 and get a Maltese licence at my Maltese address as a back up in case I was banned in the UK. I still have the Maltese licence as well as my UK one as I renewed it when they changed to the photocard ones.
Does that mean if your UK licence was revoked that you could still drive here using your Maltese licence? Or am i misunderstanding?
-Ralph-
22-02-11, 10:50 PM
Does that mean if your UK licence was revoked that you could still drive here using your Maltese licence? Or am i misunderstanding?
Not technically no, because a ban is not the removal of your license, you can receive a driving ban even if you don't have a license, a ban is exactly what it says on the tin, a prohibition from driving on UK roads, regardless of what license you do or don't hold.
Technically correct, but when you present a Maltese licence and speak to the cops in a Maltese accent (easy for me as I adopt the accent when talking to my parents), they never question it and never check to see if a UK licence has ever been issued to that person. I have carried and used my Maltese licence at times when I've been out riding with people I know would be breaking the speed limit by a large margin. Never been nicked for an offence yet.
99% of coppers think the paperwork involved in prosecuting a foreigner who'll probably be out of the country in 2 weeks time just ain't worth it
-Ralph-
22-02-11, 11:17 PM
Of course if you are involved in an accident or give them any reason to start digging...
They'll soon find out that the bike is registered to you in the UK, insured at the same address, and ooops, that call to the DVLA also says someone with the same name at the same address is banned.
But Malta is an EU country and Lozzo could surrender his UK license, and ride his bike here on that license for as long as it remains valid, so long as it's valid for the category of vehicle and he's told his insurance company that he is driving on a Maltese license. My wife has a French license, doesn't have a UK license, and has no need to or intention of changing it.
davepreston
22-02-11, 11:26 PM
so this is how women get there driving licences
it all makes sence now
yorkie_chris
23-02-11, 12:25 AM
My wife has a French license, doesn't have a UK license, and has no need to or intention of changing it.
Is it just a non-EU license that you have to change within a year?
skidmarx
23-02-11, 03:01 AM
Look at this I found today
http://www.registeredabroad.com/eu/en/
Discuss...
What would you like to 'discuss'?
You have trawled thousands of internet links and finally found something that you feel comfortable with? Congratulations....
like someone said, sure hope there aint too many of these people with fake licences driving around here. There's enough bad drivers that actually have a valid licence thanks to a test they passed, who knows about these swindlers.
Sir Trev
23-02-11, 01:29 PM
I want a slovakian licence!!!
I'm off to visit our (very big) office in Bratislava next month. I'll ask for you if you like.
-Ralph-
23-02-11, 08:16 PM
What would you like to 'discuss'?
You have trawled thousands of internet links and finally found something that you feel comfortable with? Congratulations....
:confused:
Discuss whatever you like about it, which is exactly what people are doing.
I just found it via a google images search when I was looking for a picture of a foreign license, read it, didn't know about it myself, and thought it may be of interest to people on a biking forum.
If it's not of interest to you don't read it, what's the point in making a sarcastic comment? There are some :toss:'ers on this forum nowadays.
-Ralph-
23-02-11, 08:24 PM
Is it just a non-EU license that you have to change within a year?
Yep, wifey can use her license until it expires, which I think is her 70th birthday. I suspect Lozzo's will be the same?
Yep, wifey can use her license until it expires, which I think is her 70th birthday. I suspect Lozzo's will be the same?
That's an EU-wide thing. 70 is the cut-off point.
I'm not surrendering either licence, nor will I surrender either passport. It's dead handy having both.
dan9878
25-02-11, 12:06 AM
You would be surprised at the good quality fake driving licences you can get online. Surprising the police do nothing.
Have you had speeding fines from France and Italy come through the post then?
You don't have to check a license or plate, just a plate. If you're a foreign authority wanting to check a license, then you must somehow have those license details in your possession. In the case of speeding, you must have been stopped at the roadside, in which case they'll on-the-spot fine, or arrest you, not send the fine to your address. I don't think they'd try to check the validity of your license for speeding in a foreign country anyway.
As far as I was aware only Luxembourg and Switzerland were linked up with France in terms of the French authorities being able to issue a speeding ticket to a foreign number plate. Maybe more are linked up now I don't know. I've certainly set off more French speed cameras in my UK registered car than I can count.
Still, even if the French and Italians could check a license plate and send a speeding fine, that doesn't mean they can or would check the validity of a driving license from other parts of the world, that they were exchanging. Try to avoid posting stuff as fact when actually you have no info to back it up.
Can you back up everything you have just posted as fact? Your post is arguing his point yet you dont even know the fact?
And who are you to tell anyone else on this forum how to post? He can post what he likes within the rules as can you
Blimey - Ralph finds something topical and related to motoring in general and invites a discussion and some people seem to have got their panties in a bunch over it - this never happens on t'internet normally, does it? :rolleyes::cool:
-Ralph-
25-02-11, 09:21 AM
Can you back up everything you have just posted as fact? Your post is arguing his point yet you dont even know the fact?
And who are you to tell anyone else on this forum how to post? He can post what he likes within the rules as can you
1. You don't have to check a license or plate, just a plate.
2. As far as I was aware only... maybe... I don't know
3. Still, even if
Oh, Hi Baph :smt039
1. yes
2. don't have to it wasn't posted as a fact
3. as above
My post is arguing about the license or plate thing, which is fact. The rest isn't arguing anything
Come on, you've been in the forum long enough under your old username to know what BASAT means.
Run along now Baph and stop causing trouble, there's a good boy.
Ralph,
Don't you have any trouble insuring your wife on your policy, or doesn't she have trouble trying to insure her car?
Asking because a friend of mine was trying to insure his bike the other day and most insurers said they would not offer insurance till he changed his license to a British one, the ones that didn't mind wanted to charge him a few grand for the privilege
yorkie_chris
25-02-11, 10:06 AM
I've never been asked if my licence was British, or was it just because he sounded a bit foreign :-P
There's a question in the online forms: "what license do you have" Full UK, European etc.
I think they realised when they've tried to pronounce his name that he's not local :D
-Ralph-
25-02-11, 10:56 AM
Ralph,
Don't you have any trouble insuring your wife on your policy, or doesn't she have trouble trying to insure her car?
Asking because a friend of mine was trying to insure his bike the other day and most insurers said they would not offer insurance till he changed his license to a British one, the ones that didn't mind wanted to charge him a few grand for the privilege
Nope, never had any problem, but I think we would pay a bit more if the policy was in her name (like £100 more), but she doesn't have any no claims discount either, so we have never put her on her own policy, though when I had an own fault accident in the car in 2008 and my no claims dropped from 6 to 4 years, I did get it quoted for her again, I was still cheaper. Both cars are in my name, with her named as the main driver on her car. When filling in the forms on comparison sites I just select the Full EU License option, for her and the Full UK for me.
Last time she had her own policy was in 2002 on a 1.9 turbo diesel Pug 306, she would have been 27 years old with no no claims and she was paying about £500 a year.
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