the PC brigade claim another victim

[tigersaw]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-12584669

I was taught this memonic at college, and it has served me well for 30 years.
I'd probably be arrested for repeating the one I was taught at school to remember the first 20 elements of the periodic table.

I'm so glad I was brought up and educated in the 70's before all this nonesence, when we were allowed to win at sports days, play conkers and snowball fights.

[Specialone]

FFS, this country is on a downward spiral, his pupils probably learn and retain more info from him than straight-out-of-the-box PC robots that are being trained as teachers.

I too grew up and schooled in the late 70's early 80's, kids had enough to worry about than losing the good teachers to crap like this.

British (not euro) bulldog as well, so what if you ended up with broken limbs, black eyes etc, it was part of growing up.

[Bri w]

FFS, this country is on a downward spiral, his pupils probably learn and retain more info from him than straight-out-of-the-box PC robots that are being trained as teachers.

I too grew up and schooled in the late 70's early 80's, kids had enough to worry about than losing the good teachers to crap like this.

British (not euro) bulldog as well, so what if you ended up with broken limbs, black eyes etc, it was part of growing up.

Oi!

You can't say black eyes! But you can say colourfully bruised.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xLUEMj6cwA

[MiniMatt]

Seriously? This is the mast to which you want to attach your flag? Hell I'm a raving liberal leftie and even I can think of better examples of "PC gone mad".

I note you don't reveal the rhyme in question. Even the yoghurt weaving woolly liberals of the Daily Mail reveal it and describe it as a "vile phrase".

"Black Boys Rape Our Young Girls, But Virgins Go Without" - seriously that's the best example of PC gone mad? You really think that one is worth defending? Pick your fights, that one's a lost cause.

[timwilky]

I was taught bad boys as then the second letter gave the clue to the colour 3rd letter for the Bs.

Ba -> black
Bo -> brown
Bu => Blue

[tigersaw]

Seriously? This is the mast to which you want to attach your flag? Hell I'm a raving liberal leftie and even I can think of better examples of "PC gone mad".

I note you don't reveal the rhyme in question. Even the yoghurt weaving woolly liberals of the Daily Mail reveal it and describe it as a "vile phrase".

"Black Boys Rape Our Young Girls, But Virgins Go Without" - seriously that's the best example of PC gone mad? You really think that one is worth defending? Pick your fights, that one's a lost cause.

A teacher was instantly dismissed for partly revealing the memonic (rasist and sexual connotations aparrantly) - show me a better example

[yorkie_chris]

Pick your fights, that one's a lost cause.

No it isn't. Only thing that matters is it is racial and offensive to no one, it was not said with any malice whatsoever and yet it is still "wrong".

If he'd said to his class "that coon in the corner's a f***in rapist, they all are, keep your eye on him", I'd understand him being given a bit of a talking to. This was about as far from that as possible.

Load of sh*t.


Right kids are allowed to run f***ing riot without fear of reprimand and the education authority are wasting their time dealing with this completely nonsensical cr*p?

[Bri w]

Jeez!

Whilst arguing the toss about who's example is the biggest and the best we lose sight of the issue.

right, I'm off out and I'll be having several glasses of the black stuff - sue me!

[fizzwheel]

A teacher was instantly dismissed for partly revealing the memonic (rasist and sexual connotations aparrantly) - show me a better example

He wasnt dismissed. He was reprimanded, the reprimand stays on his record for 2 years and he has 28 days to appeal the decision.

He never revealled the inappropriate words, but one his pupil filled in the gaps, and as far as I can make out this didnt even happen in a classroom.

Still bl**dy ridiculous though isnt it.

[MiniMatt]

show me a better example

Well I'm not a teacher.... but even I can use Google:

"Badly Burnt Resistors On Your Ground Bus Void General Warranties"

[tigersaw]

Well I'm not a teacher.... but even I can use Google:

"Badly Burnt Resistors On Your Ground Bus Void General Warranties"

I meant show me a better example of political correctness gone mad.

[ManxMatt34]

Load of rubbish, poor blokes been punished for sweet FA. Same old story everywhere now. That is all.

[MiniMatt]

I meant show me a better example of political correctness gone mad.

Well if you really want me to do your campaigning for you...

Repremanded for using the phrase "Nitty Gritty" was pretty bonkers:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1394248/Nitty-gritty-is-not-PC-minister.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2002/may/15/race.world

But seriously can you imagine the response of the tabloid press over here if they found that some teacher in some other country (in "Bongo Bongo Land" presumably) were using a mnemonic that included the phrase "White Boys Rape Our Young Girls". I am quite sure that the papers would be full of outrage, and likely this forum too, and rightly so.

[Bluefish]

Well if you really want me to do your campaigning for you...

Repremanded for using the phrase "Nitty Gritty" was pretty bonkers:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1394248/Nitty-gritty-is-not-PC-minister.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2002/may/15/race.world

But seriously can you imagine the response of the tabloid press over here if they found that some teacher in some other country (in "Bongo Bongo Land" presumably) were using a mnemonic that included the phrase "White Boys Rape Our Young Girls". I am quite sure that the papers would be full of outrage, and likely this forum too, and rightly so.
ah, but if it said that you would have the colours mixed up, and your tv wouldn't work ;)

[punyXpress]

But seriously can you imagine the response of the tabloid press over here if they found that some teacher in some other country (in "Bradford" presumably) were using a mnemonic that included the phrase "White Boys Rape Our Young Girls". I am quite sure that the papers would be full of outrage, and likely this forum too, and rightly so.
Because this does not have the great element of truth that the original mnemonic has ?
When giving evidence in Her Majety's Court, one swears on the Big Book " To tell the Truth, etc " When this guy does just that, he is pilloried!

[Bibio]

Repremanded for using the phrase "Nitty Gritty" was pretty bonkers:


so whats the PC brigade going to do about this product then. tell them to re-brand.

http://www.nittygrittyinc.com/

[Dave20046]

...what was the rhyme?? I can't remember colour codes of resistors, all I remember is my electronics teacher calling me a bloody gay... I think I'd prefer this non-pc teaching they're reporting!

It's bloody ridiculous, as per specialone's post really.

[Dave20046]

No it isn't. Only thing that matters is it is racial and offensive to no one, it was not said with any malice whatsoever and yet it is still "wrong".

If he'd said to his class "that coon in the corner's a f***in rapist, they all are, keep your eye on him", I'd understand him being given a bit of a talking to. This was about as far from that as possible.

Load of sh*t.


Right kids are allowed to run f***ing riot without fear of reprimand and the education authority are wasting their time dealing with this completely nonsensical cr*p?
PLEASE, become a teacher!

[Sally]

PLEASE, become leader of this country

Fixed :)

[Biker Biggles]

Well I'm not a teacher.... but even I can use Google:

"Badly Burnt Resistors On Your Ground Bus Void General Warranties"

Its all about context.Who would ever remember the above example.It isnt funny or memorable in any way,but a risque naughty one is very memorable.Therefore it serves a useful purpose and if the easily offended get uppity who cares?
Still,this does provide plenty of employment for the great and the good sitting on professional body disciplinary panels with nothing better to do than stick their communal heads up their communal &rses.:rolleyes:

[MiniMatt]

Its all about context.Who would ever remember the above example.It isnt funny or memorable in any way,but a risque naughty one is very memorable.

Richard Of York Gave Battle In Vain - neither funny or risque but I'd bet most folks still remember it.

Honestly I'd take issue with the concept of "Black Boys Rape Our Young Girls" being either funny or risque.


Ok, another way of putting it. How about putting the following mnemonics on a billboard and walking through town:
"Richard Of York Gave Battle In Vain"
"Badly Burnt Resistors On Your Ground Bus Void General Warranties"
"Black Boys Rape Our Young Girls, But Virgins Go Without"

Which billboard is going to get you more attention from the general public? And do you really believe the only people who will be offended are yoghurt weavers who get offended at anything?

[21QUEST]

I find some of the views on this thread pretty funny. I totally agree with the thrust of MiniMatt's posts.

I'm the last 'PC person' [1] alive on this planet but for a teacher, the bloke must have brains the size of peanut. What a fe_cking monkey...perhaps a closet c*** ?

[The Idle Biker]

I hate the PC brigade, but the bloke only got a reprimand for infering or saying a phrase with Rape in it to a class of 11 year olds. He should have taken his "slap on the wrist" and kept his head down instead of taking interviews and posing on his settee with his cuddly toy tiger. Teachers eh, quick to teach and slow to learn.

[21QUEST]

I'm still sat here laughing my head off hearing folks say "oooh, but the students/kids won't remember anything else" What a load of bollcks...kids/students aren't that thick.

How about this one?

Better
Be
Right
Or
Your
Great
Big
Venture
Goes
Wrong

[21QUEST]

I hate the PC brigade, but the bloke only got a reprimand for infering or saying a phrase with Rape in it to a class of 11 year olds. He should have taken his "slap on the wrist" and kept his head down instead of taking interviews and posing on his settee with his cuddly toy tiger. Teachers eh, quick to teach and slow to learn.

Good post.

And for all the PC opponents :p on this thread , perhaps the highlighted bit of the quoted post, flewr past you?....too busy ranting? :mrgreen:

Here's another one...

Bad Boys Ravish Only Young Girls But Violet Gives Willingly :rolleyes:

[Specialone]

FFS, its not like the kids dont hear worse out in the play ground, too much resource put into pc this and that rather than support teachers to do the bloody hard job that it is.
No wonder nobody wants to do it as a job anymore.
This nation needs to man up and stop being so fecking liberal tree hugging born agains.

[Biker Biggles]

FFS, its not like the kids dont hear worse out in the play ground, too much resource put into pc this and that rather than support teachers to do the bloody hard job that it is.
No wonder nobody wants to do it as a job anymore.
This nation needs to man up and stop being so fecking liberal tree hugging born agains.

Quite.This thing should be a total non issue.But it isnt,and thats whats wrong.

[21QUEST]

specialone, yeah , they probably do....

Now, someone tell me why we have a U rating on this site and why do we have some words being censored?....since it's very probable we could all swear as well as a trooper and quite possibly, have heard 'it all' .

[barwel1992]

I hate the PC brigade, but the bloke only got a reprimand for infering or saying a phrase with Rape in it to a class of 11 year olds. He should have taken his "slap on the wrist" and kept his head down instead of taking interviews and posing on his settee with his cuddly toy tiger. Teachers eh, quick to teach and slow to learn.

erm not quite mate ....... YEAR 11 not 11 year olds

in other words 16 year olds ..... who have mostly been sleeping round for a bout 3 years by then so im sure they know about rape and so on so forth by then :rolleyes:

[flymo]

seriously, there's politically correct and then there's plain appropriate. It's a bloody rediculous phrase to use in a school to teach kids. Totally fair in my view that he should have been advised against for future lessons, the press as usual blow it out of proportion.

[21QUEST]

erm not quite mate ....... YEAR 11 not 11 year olds

in other words 16 year olds ..... who have mostly been sleeping round for a bout 3 years by then so im sure they know about rape and so on so forth by then :rolleyes:

Ah yes, you are quite right about the age group...see!! even I can get carried away lol ;)

[flymo]

erm not quite mate ....... YEAR 11 not 11 year olds

in other words 16 year olds ..... who have mostly been sleeping round for a bout 3 years by then so im sure they know about rape and so on so forth by then :rolleyes:

thats totally irrelevant, knowing about rape and the 'birds and the bees' etc etc is not the issue. I would consider a phrase like this inappropriate in the workplace, never mind the school.

its 2011, not 1911. I work on a daily basis with people who would find a phrase like this offensive.

[yorkie_chris]

Teachers are meant to teach and if they can't pass on their knowledge then there's no point them being there. This guy was in engineering 30 years so he's a useful teacher not just some c*nt with a teaching degree a limp wrist and no idea about the real world.

When I was at school there were a few who would talk reasonably freely with you about anything, not go mental when they saw you down the pub or smoking or something. Quite unlike the fresh from uni types, who were useless.

Warnings and slaps on the wrist for stuff like this seem like a lot of BS to me. He told them an edited rhyme from the 60's... a useful history lesson of race relations and attitudes no? :-P

[beabert]

Seriously? This is the mast to which you want to attach your flag? Hell I'm a raving liberal leftie and even I can think of better examples of "PC gone mad".

I note you don't reveal the rhyme in question. Even the yoghurt weaving woolly liberals of the Daily Mail reveal it and describe it as a "vile phrase".

"Black Boys Rape Our Young Girls, But Virgins Go Without" - seriously that's the best example of PC gone mad? You really think that one is worth defending? Pick your fights, that one's a lost cause.

I find some of the views on this thread pretty funny. I totally agree with the thrust of MiniMatt's posts.

I'm the last 'PC person' [1] alive on this planet but for a teacher, the bloke must have brains the size of peanut. What a fe_cking monkey...perhaps a closet c*** ?

seriously, there's politically correct and then there's plain appropriate. It's a bloody rediculous phrase to use in a school to teach kids. Totally fair in my view that he should have been advised against for future lessons, the press as usual blow it out of proportion.

thats totally irrelevant, knowing about rape and the 'birds and the bees' etc etc is not the issue. I would consider a phrase like this inappropriate in the workplace, never mind the school.

its 2011, not 1911. I work on a daily basis with people who would find a phrase like this offensive.

:o at the mnemonic. I'm with all the above! What did he expect the out come would be? Fully deserved.

Im suprised to see how many of you don't see the problem, and ppl wonder why society is going the way it is!

[barwel1992]

thats totally irrelevant, knowing about rape and the 'birds and the bees' etc etc is not the issue. I would consider a phrase like this inappropriate in the workplace, never mind the school.

its 2011, not 1911. I work on a daily basis with people who would find a phrase like this offensive.

i dont think the out come wouldn't be quite so "light" if it was 11 year olds do you ? and he never actually told them the exact phrase and they filled in the blanks

[Dave20046]

Teachers are meant to teach and if they can't pass on their knowledge then there's no point them being there. This guy was in engineering 30 years so he's a useful teacher not just some c*nt with a teaching degree a limp wrist and no idea about the real world.

When I was at school there were a few who would talk reasonably freely with you about anything, not go mental when they saw you down the pub or smoking or something. Quite unlike the fresh from uni types, who were useless.

Warnings and slaps on the wrist for stuff like this seem like a lot of BS to me. He told them an edited rhyme from the 60's... a useful history lesson of race relations and attitudes no? :-P

Agree with this, You're bound to learn from someone who's real and knows stuff, it's respectable. However when you're asked to copy text from a text book to an exercise book - a pupil clearly recognises it's more constructive to dangle the ginger kids out the window.

[yorkie_chris]

Let's draw a parallel. I heard the song "tie me kangaroo down sport" when I was at school once. I DEMAND a full OFSTED inspection* as it turns out that song used to have a verse in it about abos!!!1!!!

"He said Jehova!"





*Only joking, they're shutting it down anyway...

[Dave20046]

Im suprised to see how many of you don't see the problem, and ppl wonder why society is going the way it is!
From the people posting , whatever their opinion the one's I've met are decent people - not really the peril of society. It's just an opinion!

[toxic]

I was taught, bad boys rape our young girls but violet gives willingly.

[flymo]

i dont think the out come wouldn't be quite so "light" if it was 11 year olds do you ? and he never actually told them the exact phrase and they filled in the blanks

probably not no, but then we are discussing varying degrees of inapropriate, it doesnt make it more suitable simply because the kids are older.

[yorkie_chris]

End of the day reprimanding this guy has been a complete waste of time and effort from a bunch of yellow wazzocks who couldn't organise a dyslexic gangbang in a warehouse.

Don't see what it has accomplished, you think a quiet word from the headmaster saying "be a bit careful" would not have sufficed?


He hasn't killed anyone, more importantly he hasn't cost anyone any money. What's the big deal?

Just to throw a completely unreasonable extreme view in there, you happy when your kids have all topped themselves due to bullying because the national board of teaching poofters are too busy investigating some guy who possibly might have maybe mentioned the colour grey with racial possibilites rather than sorting out teachers who allow bullying to continue?

On a sensible note, there are way bigger fish to fry than a little rhyme that didn't hurt anyone.

[garynortheast]

I do love a good stereotype :rolleyes:

[yorkie_chris]

Ace aren't they, they let you insult whole swathes of the population at once! If you had to insult them all individually you'd be there for days!

(wanders off back to the garage, flat cap in one hand whippet in the other...)

[Biker Biggles]

I was taught, bad boys rape our young girls but violet gives willingly.

I was'nt taught any of them.I wish I had been,even if it meant someone got upset.And that is the important thing----Kids get taught stuff,however it gets done.

Incidently,when I was at sea we learned how to convert compass to true by------


Captains d1ck makes virgins tremble.

Never forgot it:p

[flymo]

....you think a quiet word from the headmaster saying "be a bit careful" would not have sufficed?

yes totally, whoever decided to blow the press trumpet on this is the one who over reacted.

[flymo]

Never forgot it:p

You never forgot the captains d1ck? I thought all that stuff about the Navy was bo11ocks ;-)

[Biker Biggles]

You never forgot the captains d1ck? I thought all that stuff about the Navy was bo11ocks ;-)

Im sure bo11ocks came into it;) but it was the trembling virgins that I never forgot:D

Anyway I bet the kids at the naughty teachers school never forget their little rhyme now either.:cheers:

[yorkie_chris]

yes totally, whoever decided to blow the press trumpet on this is the one who over reacted.

I disagree, it was an over reaction that this went any further than the head of the school, and an over reaction to give any sort of official punishment.

I think going to the press with it was reasonable as I think it has been a waste of time for an authority with better things to do.

[flymo]

it was an over reaction that this went any further than the head of the school... <-------> ...I think going to the press with it was reasonable

not sure I follow that logic Chris.

I dont know for sure but I reckon this was nothing major up until the point it was shared with the press.

[Biker Biggles]

Yeah but these professional bodies love it.They can sit there feeling good about themselves leaching money out of working people,while being so holier than thou wasting our oxygen.Most of em are only there because they were so carp at actually doing a proper job.

You can tell I like them cant you?

[fizzwheel]

:o at the mnemonic. I'm with all the above! What did he expect the out come would be? Fully deserved.

I'm not so sure he left out the words that he thought might be deemed offensive or inappropriate, the kids in his class then filled in the gaps themselves. Well according to the BBC article anyway...

I had teachers at school who pushed the boundaries of acceptable behaviour, our maths teacher used to swear like a trooper especially if we were messing about and not doing what we were told. He was one of the best teachers I ever had.

The point I'm trying to make is sometimes you learn more from a teacher with an unorthodox approach than one the rigidly teaches from a plan / from a book all the time. I suspect this teacher was just trying to inject a little fun into his lesson.

[Balky001]

Fizz, you still watching Dead Poet's Society?

That mnemonic (even if he did play blankety blank with it) is shocking, something David Brent would say and then stand there for 5 minutes in total silence waiting for a reaction. Not exactly news though. I'm sure if he thought it was really OK he wouldn't have missed the words out, he obviously knew if was inappropriate.

[Ruffy]

A couple of points:

1. The mnemonic in question is to help remember colour codes. Having the first word be 'black' actually improves the memory aid because the first colour is, lo and behold, black: So it helps remove possible confusion with 'blue' that follows.

2. Would it have been poor teaching to offer this mnemonic phrase as one, historic possibility that he had been taught (which is merely stating a fact) but then follow up with a discussion on why it was probably inappropriate to use it nowadays and lead on to a class exercise to define something better?

The fact that this teacher didn't reveal the full phrase shows he recognised that it was perhaps past its sell by date but clearly the kid wasn't able to understand any possible sensitivity, blarting it around school. But heaven forbid a teacher be allowed to impart knowledge and encourage his pupils to think!!!

[yorkie_chris]

not sure I follow that logic Chris.

I dont know for sure but I reckon this was nothing major up until the point it was shared with the press.

The headmaster of the school should have told him "bit naughty that, the kids have found out that it used to be a bit racist, be a bit more careful in future". Job jobbed. Quite easy no? Completely free also.

Someone else thought, these officious w*nkers are spending their (no doubt HIGHLY paid time) castigating this one bloke who's done nothing wrong rather than looking after the children's education. I think that's worth publishing TBH.


That mnemonic (even if he did play blankety blank with it) is shocking,

Shocking eh. I'm sure you're all sat there like :o, ghostly white with one hand over your mouth and a tear in your eye? No? In fact I bet you kinda shrugged and got on with your day.

What words did he blank out and which did he share? Or did he change the words entirely and they figure it out later? How can anyone here* judge how "offensive" or "shocking" this was without explicitly knowing that?



*Except me, 'cos I think if it wasn't insulting anyone directly at the time the education board or whatever should mind their own f***ing business however he worded it.

[Specialone]

It's just a massive knee jerk over reaction and a dent in a good teachers career.

Call it sheltered life, I don't even know what the sentence is ?

I'm with YC on this one, let the head earn his money, give him a quiet word, maybe address his class as to why it's inappropriate in these modern times, put it behind, get on with teaching, simple.

[Bri w]

A couple of points:

1. The mnemonic in question is to help remember colour codes. Having the first word be 'black' actually improves the memory aid because the first colour is, lo and behold, black: So it helps remove possible confusion with 'blue' that follows.

2. Would it have been poor teaching to offer this mnemonic phrase as one, historic possibility that he had been taught (which is merely stating a fact) but then follow up with a discussion on why it was probably inappropriate to use it nowadays and lead on to a class exercise to define something better?

The fact that this teacher didn't reveal the full phrase shows he recognised that it was perhaps past its sell by date but clearly the kid wasn't able to understand any possible sensitivity, blarting it around school. But heaven forbid a teacher be allowed to impart knowledge and encourage his pupils to think!!!

OMG, commonsense approach.

I learned the mnemonic 40 yrs back and "see" a black band on a resistor not some huge guy running round with his bits hanging out looking for a vestal virgin.

If some wimp of a (tanned) guy shrieks and swoons at the mere mention of the verse he needs some serious counselling.

FFS get a grip. Its a mnemonic about resistor colour codes. No one is pointing a finger and saying you're ~'#}%&b whatever...

I can imagine a yoof from da hood laughing his cotton socks off at this.

[The Idle Biker]

Just looking on Al Jazeera rag head tv and a mujahadeen lecturer has been suspended for using a mneumonic WSROYW. Apparently it helps helps the apprentice suicide bombers remeber the sequence for the ignition code and which is also a passgae from the Koran. He got a slap on the wrist because he was an engineer of good standing and they had better things to do than worry about teachers talking ****. White Soldiers Rape Our Young Women is just an old fashioned saying from the Russian invasion, so it's OK. Not sure how I feel about that, but then at least we beat the Cheese eating surrender monkies at Rugby today. Yeee ha! Guinness mucks my perception up!

[northwind]

seriously, there's politically correct and then there's plain appropriate. It's a bloody rediculous phrase to use in a school to teach kids.

Yup, totally agree with that. And the punishment fits the crime too, "claim another victim" the title says but he's had a slap on the wrists, you'd think he'd been fired. (some people DO think he's been fired :rolleyes:)

[flymo]

The headmaster of the school should have told him "bit naughty that, the kids have found out that it used to be a bit racist, be a bit more careful in future". Job jobbed. Quite easy no? Completely free also.


Totally agree, I get that bit. My point was that you said it should not have gone further than the head but also that it was reasonable for them to have gone to the press.

[yorkie_chris]

Totally agree, I get that bit. My point was that you said it should not have gone further than the head but also that it was reasonable for them to have gone to the press.

Aye, they're not mutually exclusive. If for example someone had gone to the press that the head of the school had told him off for it then I'd agree it wasn't worthy of blowing the whistle on it.

He would quite rightly have been told off for it, but only because of the retarded society that we live in rather than it actually being morally wrong.

If I was giving the telling off (and I would, in that situation) it would be "don't say that again mate or some left-wing cheesed*ck will blow a fuse over it because they've got nothing else to do in between wanking each other off and sending memos"

[thulfi]

What words did he blank out and which did he share? Or did he change the words entirely and they figure it out later? How can anyone here* judge how "offensive" or "shocking" this was without explicitly knowing that?



*Except me, 'cos I think if it wasn't insulting anyone directly at the time the education board or whatever should mind their own f***ing business however he worded it.

This.


2. Would it have been poor teaching to offer this mnemonic phrase as one, historic possibility that he had been taught (which is merely stating a fact) but then follow up with a discussion on why it was probably inappropriate to use it nowadays and lead on to a class exercise to define something better?
!

Just cos he's got 30yrs experience with teaching doesn't mean he wasn't an idiot.

The thing that bugs me about what this teacher did is the fact that he left blanks so the students could figure them out for themselves. Essentially wasting their time trying to solve racist mnemonics. We're unaware of the one's he left blank but let's say it was

B. Boys R Our Y G, But Virgins Go Without.

Why bother 'stimulating' their minds in solving a mnemonic like this? He asked for it, and in my opinion not very smart teaching methods by him. I had many great teachers, they were usually the old timers, but they never fed us cruddy mnemonics that could probably be just as memorable without having rape and a negative reference to a skin colour in it.

[irons]

interesting read. got what he deserved

[Quedos]

Sorry but it out dated and i believe he should have got a ticking off. Papers were not called for.
YC glad you don't find it offensive but there will be more that do and that doesn't just mean left wing whatever insult you want to fling at them.
Pc gone mad is not calling a black board a black board. That could be classed as deflamatory.

Though I can sympathise is it harder for the older generation to stop using wrods and phrases that are now seemed as inappropriate EVEN if they mean no harm by it.

[Owenski]

Im more suprised that he was dobbed in by another teacher.

[yorkie_chris]

Sorry but it out dated and i believe he should have got a ticking off. Papers were not called for.
YC glad you don't find it offensive but there will be more that do and that doesn't just mean left wing whatever insult you want to fling at them.

Yeah he should have got a ticking off, not an official warning from the schools board or whatever.

'Course it does, soft buggers, if that offends them then their poor little heads must explode when someone insults them properly.

[Reeder]

seriously, there's politically correct and then there's plain appropriate. It's a bloody rediculous phrase to use in a school to teach kids. Totally fair in my view that he should have been advised against for future lessons, the press as usual blow it out of proportion.

I read up to this post then couldn't be arsed to read any more.

I totally agree with flymo.
Using that phrase whilst teaching is just plain stupid. Anyone getting in a huff about it needs to take a step back and realise people shouldn't be saying things like that when teaching. So what if they're 16 and hear it all already? Doesn't mean adults should be teaching them things like that. If I was a black lad I'd be pretty offended by it to be honest.

[Sosha]

On the plus side there's now a whole swathe of people who can remember the resistor code.

[irons]

Yeah he should have got a ticking off, not an official warning from the schools board or whatever.

'Course it does, soft buggers, if that offends them then their poor little heads must explode when someone insults them properly.

if your child was being taught phrase's like black boys rape our young girls would you approve? While i agree the world is far to PC that's a very racist phrase and has no place in society let alone a school.
It does not offend me personally but im a white guy so why would it, i can see how it may offend others. Some people find it hard to look beyond their own views.
Defending a racist phrase being taught in school's is something id only expect from far right

[punyXpress]

if your child was being taught phrase's like black boys rape our young girls would you approve? While i agree the world is far to PC that's a very racist phrase and has no place in society let alone a school.
It does not offend me personally but im a white guy so why would it, i can see how it may offend others. Some people find it hard to look beyond their own views.
Defending a racist phrase being taught in school's is something id only expect from far right

" Former home secretary Jack Straw has said some UK Pakistani men see white girls as "easy meat" for sex abuse. " Never took him to be extreme right wing!

[benji106]

The UK is far too PC but I dont think that this is an example of that to be honest.

Black boys rape young girls, but virgins go without

Not something appropriate for school, head teacher needs to have a word.

complete waste of time that it had to go to 'The General Teaching Council' who presumably spend their time making sure every textbook and exam question contains an exotic name and every coloured pencil is equally represented in the art rooms.

Common sense failure on every level.

[Specialone]

Just remember one thing, he didn't actually say any racist or offensive word, he also didn't put it in any offensive context.

A quiet word was all this deserves, stop making it out to be worse than it was, FFS, some of you on here should work for the tabloids, talk about sensationalising things.

It's a outdated thing to say, end of, its got no place in modern times, but offensive, really ???

Is it really worth losing a good teacher over if taken further ? I don't think so.
There's bigger problems in this country than this surely.

[irons]

" Former home secretary Jack Straw has said some UK Pakistani men see white girls as "easy meat" for sex abuse. " Never took him to be extreme right wing!

First off if you look at why this was said and the context in which it was said i think you will find there is nothing wrong in what he said. Its been proven that some Pakistani men have been grooming young white girls as they see them as easy compared to girls of their own faith. Crime stats on this sort of crime totally back him up so he is stating fact that its becoming a growing trend.
The phrase Pakistani men cannot be classed as racist, no different to saying British men.

the teacher may not of completed the phrase but he has done enough for them to guess the missing which does not make it right

[xXBADGERXx]

right, I'm off out and I'll be having several glasses of the black stuff - sue me!

That`s a lot of Bovril :smt104

[Grant66]

The first time I heard that mnemonic the 1st word was the colour it represented & the 2nd B stood for illegitimate person, which was wholly inappropriate & defiantly something to be reprimanded for. By the time I got to university it had changed to Bad Boys Ravish. So even 25 years ago it was thought to be at best crass.

Perhaps this is more appropriate in this instance:

Belligerent Biased Retards On Your Grant Blatantly Violate Good Wisdom

Which can be used to support both arguments depending on who you think is the retard.