Wheelies on an SV?

[Mykey.M]

has anyone managed to get a good long wheelie from an av. i can get the front up if i slip the clutch when pulling away hard but other than that not alot. do i have to change the sproket sizes and stuff or is it easily dont with a standerd setup?

[maviczap]

has anyone managed to get a good long wheelie from an av. i can get the front up if i slip the clutch when pulling away hard but other than that not alot. do i have to change the sproket sizes and stuff or is it easily dont with a standerd setup?

Think if you do a search on here, you'll find its not a good idea on an Sv.

Starves the front cylinder of oil, then it goes bang :p

But if you must, bigger rear sprocket

[radicalry00]

Front will clutch up in 1st and 2nd easy and even 3rd but as mentioned I wouldn't do it too often on the SV. I've been known to pull 'em when I get a bit excited though.

[yorkie_chris]

You can do a wheelie all day on an SV if you have the skills

[hongman]

Nekkids seem to be far easier to wheelie than the faired. Slightly different gearing perhaps?

I can get the front up in 1st (wouldn't call it a proper wheelie just yet) but not in second. Just doesn't seem to want to do it, but as Chris says, it's more likely that I just possess the skills.

[hongman]

I thought the oil starvation thing was sorted in 2000+ bikes?

[yorkie_chris]

Maybe maybe not. Davido (???) on here wheelied 2gen for miles at balance point, only went bang when he did it with low oil.
You want to risk your engine?

For a proper wheelie but not a mile long stand up, just pop up, up a few gears, back down it is fine.

[hongman]

Well I can't wheelie long enough for this to be an issue anyway :D

[Specialone]

Also depends on your weight, my pointy I had wouldn't do a power wheelie, didn't have enough to lift my weight even with a little pull back on the bars.

Actually my sprint goes light but no lift, my DRZ on the other hand will power wheelie in first gear.

[radicalry00]

Also depends on your weight, my pointy I had wouldn't do a power wheelie, didn't have enough to lift my weight even with a little pull back on the bars.

Actually my sprint goes light but no lift, my DRZ on the other hand will power wheelie in first gear.

I guarantee the SV would've power wheelied in first if you leant back enough and "snapped" up the bars. Even at 19stone+ it would. Most people just don't feel comfortable shifting their bodyweight so far towards the back of the bike.

[yorkie_chris]

The bike weighs a sight more than even the chunkiest monkey, it's the throttle makes it wheelie. Snap it closed then open again and it will bounce the chassis and bring it up.

[Mykey.M]

ahh ok cheers guys, if im doing about 15mph in 1st then rev it to around 8-9000 rpm dump the clutch and then slip in as it comes up i got get quite far with it.

i have been looking at youtube for it too. someone going a decent speed just stands up and i think he pops the cutch and it just comes striaght up. it says that he is 3rd or 4th gear aswell :/

[beabert]

This guy does it well :D

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[Mykey.M]

This guy does it well :D

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yer i want to be able to just pop it up like that with out having to try much :)

[Goldy]

anyone know how he did it so easily? it doesnt even look like he pulled back on the handle bars.....

[hongman]

change of sprockets perhaps.

[SVMAT]

Its just practice. I have pointy s stock gearing with and it will clutch up in 2nd easily. Accelerate hard in second to 30 with **** at back of seat slip clutch n she'l pop right up. Its easier with less fuel for obv reasons. You wont have a problem with oil starvation if you keep it topped up and dont wheelie for miles.

[_Stretchie_]

Ahhhh, not seen a wheelie thread for a while

; )

[hongman]

Wonder when there will be a stoppie thread :D

[Mykey.M]

Wonder when there will be a stoppie thread :D


i've been looking at trying them tooo just havnt got the balls. wheelies getting better though :)

[Berlin]

anyone know how he did it so easily? it doesnt even look like he pulled back on the handle bars.....

yes, he's standing on the rear pegs
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[Jayneflakes]

My Carol used to wheelie our SV when it had clip ons, she was also a bit good at stoppies. However this sort of behaviour gets her told off by me because I do not want to have to buy new wheel bearings, head stock bearings or underwear.

Fitting riser bars to the bike made it a bit of wheelie monster even with a 33BHP restriction and it took a little while to get used to the new position. I love it now and she feels so planted and steady, even when two up and full power ECU is fitted. Wifey is still not allowed to pull wheelies or stoppies though, despite her protests! ;-)

[yorkie_chris]

I think people who quickly damage bearings must just not know how to adjust them properly or something.

Landing a wheelie won't do much different to your wheel bearings as hitting a bump at speed or hitting a ripply bit when braking hard enough to be lifting the rear.

Wheel bearings are cheap, head bearings are a pain in the tits, but I've been kicking the b*llocks out of mine for the 60k+ I've had the bike and it's still on an OE lower race and a 40k mile TWF racing upper one.

[Stig]

Wheelies are fun.

That is all.

[_Stretchie_]

Wheelies are fun.

That is all.

Who's got the famous AR06 ApeWheelie pic?

[Stig]

Who's got the famous AR06 ApeWheelie pic?

Well it was Quiff that took the photo. But I have a copy of it somewhere. ;-)

[CheGuevara]

Mine (an S converted to naked, stock gearing and an end-can) would come up in second gear off the throttle without much drama. It's mostly just timing (not suggesting I posses any extraordinary skills). I'm also not the lightest guy (17st), but I am tall so the higher CoG might balance that out some.

[The Idle Biker]

Oh, good question. I've been taking baby steps to try to wheelie my SV pointy, but I'm still not sure how to do it. I've been trundling along in second about 30mph, pulling the clutch in, revving it high but not redlining, then letting the clutch out quickly (but not just dropping it). I'm about 12 stone and I do sit back a bit in the seat. Feels like it's going to wheelie but doesn't. Sure it's lack of technique, so I'm interested to hear tips.

[yorkie_chris]

Accelerate quite hard and blip the clutch

[The Idle Biker]

Accelerate quite hard and blip the clutch

OK thanks I will try it this weekend if it's dry. If I come off I'll post the pics;)

[hongman]

I found my issue was not letting the clutch out fast enough for fear of looping it. But really, now I just pull it in and flick it back out.

[Webber]

Possible on 33bhp? Had a it jump up a inch or so when racing from 1st to 2nd quickly but never anything more. Tried bliping the clutch in first but it just lurches forwards a bit. What kind of rpm should i be doing it at? seeing as after 6000 the bike has no punch due to restriction.

[svsam]

Accelerate quite hard and blip the clutch

when you say blip the clutch, is it just slip it for a millisecond, or pull it to the bar and off quickly.
i can pop the front wheel up, but not hight enough to balance.

[yorkie_chris]

Enough that the revs go right up and you lose drive, what you're doing is loading the forks up, then pinging the clutch out bounces the forks back up again and that gets the momentum going

[Mykey.M]

thanks for all you help on this. i got pretty good at wheelies in the past week, i found that doing like 15mph then pulling the clutch in and reving it to around 8-9000 rpm and letting the clutch go and slipping it a bit when its up :). gets me quite far and looks good through town :)

i've tried bouncing the bike and cracking the throttle open and it wroks really well in 2nd gear just cant get the balence point right yet :) but ive changed my fork seals on tuesday so ive stopped for a while now :) but


cheers everyone :)

[Ceri JC]

See avatar.

[Webber]

Just wondered if i put a 47t rear sprocket on the back will the standard chain be long enough to take it? If not how big can i go on standard chain? Not to bothered about losing top speed as it will only stop me from getting a ticket for speeding :)

[yorkie_chris]

You won't notice the drop in top speed as it won't hit the limiter in top, what you do notice is it completely does your tits in on the Mway as it's doing a lot more rpm.

You probably won't get a 47 in there.

[SVMAT]

Not sure but obv you can go one down on the front with a similar effect. And then use same chain and sproket is only a tenner.
Also regarding letting clutch out, dont just drop it as some have said, I watched my friend loop de loop his 750 this way.
Adjust the clutch so it bites close to bars so you can still hold lever when its fully engaged. This will give much more control in getting the bike up, and less likely to damage bottom end, clutch components through dumping it harshly.

[yorkie_chris]

No you want it biting far out from bars so you can use 1/2 fingers on it and still have good hold of bars with it fully disengaged.

If you can't hold your clutch with it fully engaged I'm surprised you can ride at all...

[SVMAT]

I dont mean right at the bars, but you want to be able to control from biting point to fully engaged, i know when i had mine biting far out i hated it as i felt hand was stretched and that i had less control (i have lady hands). Also from trials riding and mx clutch biting quite close is norm for control. Maybe it was just my sv but when i got it the clutch qouldnt bite til lever was over halfway through its travel.

[yorkie_chris]

Majority of trials bikes I've worked on have been set or are naturally biting quite far out, watch some trials and count how many riders have 3 fingers on bar and one on clutch.

[Webber]

Thanks for reply, what about dropping one on the front and upping the rear by one, should be the same length then no? Cant imagine ill be bothered by motorways as i cant say ive ever even used one. Will change it about again when i look at long trips in the summer.

[cluffy]

Something i havnt tried yet.. wheelies may be in he near future tho, is there much risk of dumping the clutch and ending up on ur back? or is it just a case of it it feels like its getting past the point of balance just knock off throttle and drop back to 2 wheels?

Danny

[hongman]

Not really. Cover the back brake.

Dont just go out and try to wheelie if you've never done it before, do a few runs of just accelerating hard in 1st, feel the front end going light, get used to the sensation etc.

Have a play, get used to what the bike will do at different speeds with and without the clutch...it all becomes a lot more predictable then.

Worked for me anyway.

[Dicky Ticker]

Can somebody please explain the benefit or purpose of doing wheelies unless you are a stunt rider.
I always thought the front wheel was for steering when in contact with the road.
Presumably none of this is of any benefit when riding on the public highway?????

[hongman]

We all own private roads, duh. ;)

The point or purpose for me is about skill. Same as going fast(-er than maybe I should at times). Plus its fun.

And yes, it can be of benefit. Knowing what to do and how the bike will react in the event you do get the front up unexpectedly...ok it doesnt happen often but....

[Mykey.M]

Can somebody please explain the benefit or purpose of doing wheelies unless you are a stunt rider.
I always thought the front wheel was for steering when in contact with the road.
Presumably none of this is of any benefit when riding on the public highway?????


i do them because i used to do trials riding and did it all the time. i dont wheelie all the time on the road and only when its clear and safe.

plus if you get a good one it does look rather good :)

[Stig]

Can somebody please explain the benefit or purpose of doing wheelies unless you are a stunt rider.

Less front tyre wear obviously.

I always thought the front wheel was for steering when in contact with the road.

Which is perfectly true. When the front wheel is in contact with the road it is indeed used for steering. That and making sure the engine isn't scraping along the ground. But it's not really very good at doing that when it's high in the air. In fact if you leave it in the air for any period of time, it becomes pretty much redundant. All though it is handy to have it there when you decide you want to steer around the next corner. :)

Presumably none of this is of any benefit when riding on the public highway?????

I refer you to my first answer to your first question. :)

[kaivalagi]

Am I right in saying the police, if they really want to, can serve you a dangerous driving notice if you're caught doing it? Just curious...

I am obviously far too sensible to even consider attempting to wheelie my bike on purpose, although I have been known on occasion to do one by mistake..oops :)

[hongman]

Yes.

[SVMAT]

Can somebody please explain the benefit or purpose of doing wheelies unless you are a stunt rider.
I always thought the front wheel was for steering when in contact with the road.
Presumably none of this is of any benefit when riding on the public highway?????

Its fun, a challenge and when you whelie past sum tit who's givin it the beans or just cut you up.... its rather satisfying :D

[Dicky Ticker]

Do you mean-----Look at me showing off,unable to steer being a complete tw*t

Oh--I understand now;) being completely illegal is fun


























Done as a wind up;)

[Reeder]

Its fun, a challenge and when you whelie past sum tit who's givin it the beans or just cut you up.... its rather satisfying :D


Oooooooooh great idea! Lets put ourselves in challenging and unpredictable situations when we're angry.

[Stig]

Am I right in saying the police, if they really want to, can serve you a dangerous driving notice if you're caught doing it? Just curious...

I am obviously far too sensible to even consider attempting to wheelie my bike on purpose, although I have been known on occasion to do one by mistake..oops :)

I swear this is true. I have been told by the police if I did a really good wheelie, they would let me off.

I had a bandit 600 and was learning to wheelie it. I rode to the docks in London although still open to the public is not a well used area regarding traffic. It's actually (or was) used by plenty of bikers to practice stunts and such. So I went there were it was nice and quiet away from the main stream. I would practice my wheeling between two roundabouts. I was just starting to get the hang of it when I got pulled. I had been concentrating so hard at what I was doing, I forgot to keep my eyes open for the police. They spotted me and pulled me over. Conversation was rather short. I was expecting the worst. Then came the statement I wasn't expecting. "If you can pull a good wheelie, we'll let you off". I mean seriously, is this a wind up? Are they just wanting proper video evidence to ensure a conviction? It's a marked car and as far as I can see, no cameras. So I agree. Jump back on the bike and do the best damn wheelie I can muster. I kept it up for a least 10 feet and must have been at least 6 inches of the ground.

I pulled over and the police came over.

"Is that it?" he said.
"Yes" I said.
"What no feet over the handlebars or anything like that?" He said.
"No" I said. "Why do you think I am here on my own where no one can see me? I can't do wheelies. At least not to the level I want anyone to see them".

"Oh well" he said. "I'll let you get on with your practising then".

He said they came down to specifically watch the stunters doing their thing and were a bit disappointed to only see one bike. They were even more disappointed when it turned out to be me who didn't have a clue. :lol:

[hongman]

Oh dear lol!

Made my day!

[SVMAT]

Oooooooooh great idea! Lets put ourselves in challenging and unpredictable situations when we're angry.

I dont suffer with road rage or bursts of anger. Most of the time im laughing histerically to myself. And as for unpredictable. The more times you do it...the more predictable it becomes :D

[Reeder]

The more times you do it the more likely you'll eventually come off.

[SVMAT]

The more times you do it the more likely you'll eventually come off.

Is that not the same with everything in life.....the longer you live the more likely you are to die

[Stig]

The more times you do it the more likely you'll eventually come off.

They also say to get good at something you have to learn from a few mistakes along the way. :)

[hongman]

I wonder why we never get threads about stoppies

[kaivalagi]

They were even more disappointed when it turned out to be me who didn't have a clue. :lol:
I better get practising then lol

I wonder why we never get threads about stoppies
Why don't you start one? To be honest I wouldn't dear try an endo/stoppy....the SV brakes and front forms are the best either are they.....

[Reeder]

Is that not the same with everything in life.....the longer you live the more likely you are to die

So why increase your chances of it ending early?

They also say to get good at something you have to learn from a few mistakes along the way. :)

True, but why take risks for something pointless?

I wonder why we never get threads about stoppies

Because they're even more useless and even more stupid.

[hongman]

I dont have enough confidence in the front to do that yet...I'll probably have a bash (not literally I hope) when the weather is a bit more favourable.

[hongman]

So why increase your chances of it ending early?



True, but why take risks for something pointless?



Because they're even more useless and even more stupid.

Depends on your perception and evaluation on risk doesn't it? I'd bet many people would say the same about riding full stop...yet we all ride.

Lighten up, if you dont agree with it then fair enough, noone is forcing you to do it or endorse it.

Its not like we're all 16 yr olds looking to razz about pulling stunts up and down the High Street all day long...

[hongman]

I'm going for a massive burnout later if anyone wants to join me.

[Reeder]

I cannot lighten up. Today this is my mood and I shall portray my opinions.
Tomorrow may be different and therefore I shall express that.

[hongman]

Go back to the naughty corner, dont forget your happy pills tomorrow! :D

[Reeder]

I'm going say something nice now, and today this is going to be a struggle.
Your daughter is very very cute :D

[hongman]

Why thank you :) She is indeed one of those irresistably cute toddlers! Not that I am biased much.

I hope your day improves. Put some drawing pins on a colleague's chair or something, that'll cheer you up.

[Reeder]

*tries to be cheery*

So, wheelies!

Seem a great idea. I might try these soon. Thanks for the tips and stuff.

[lammypie]

Majority of trials bikes I've worked on have been set or are naturally biting quite far out, watch some trials and count how many riders have 3 fingers on bar and one on clutch.


when i was doing my test my instructor was going round the twist because i automatically used 1 or 2 fingers on the clutch, pure habit from riding trials bikes since i was 3.. still miss my ty80 from when i was a nipper.. though i will say a trials bike clutch is like moving a feather compared to a road bikes and are very different in feel due to how they are ridden

contrary to what the examiners of the test believe you have much more control over the clutch and bike at the same time if you're used to doing this

[lammypie]

this is what dropping the clutch on a trials bike does.. (this bike is a 4 banger most trials are 2 stroke)

http://video.l3.fbcdn.net/cfs-l3-snc6/82297/195/189052704466072_49252.mp4?oh=cd9d8180e7c2be42b777c 4d290279eaa&oe=4D840800&l3s=20110316182352&l3e=20110318183352&lh=043d705b0311e9d4534bf

[Stig]

*tries to be cheery*

So, wheelies!

Seem a great idea. I might try these soon. Thanks for the tips and stuff.

That's the spirit. ;-)

[kaivalagi]

this is what dropping the clutch on a trials bike does.. (this bike is a 4 banger most trials are 2 stroke)

http://video.l3.fbcdn.net/cfs-l3-snc6/82297/195/189052704466072_49252.mp4?oh=cd9d8180e7c2be42b777c 4d290279eaa&oe=4D840800&l3s=20110316182352&l3e=20110318183352&lh=043d705b0311e9d4534bf
Holy carp batman, that was from nothing to very much something....

[yorkie_chris]

Heh, you thought road bikes accelerated well. Trials bikes do that vertically :-D

[yorkie_chris]

Can somebody please explain the benefit or purpose of doing wheelies unless you are a stunt rider.
I always thought the front wheel was for steering when in contact with the road.
Presumably none of this is of any benefit when riding on the public highway?????

When hitting a crest at full throttle it is useful to know what to do when you're suddenly looking at the sky.

See, practicing wheelies is an essential part of advanced riding.

[Mykey.M]

Do you mean-----Look at me showing off,unable to steer being a complete tw*t

Oh--I understand now;) being completely illegal is fun


























Done as a wind up;)


i get what your saying but er if your good enough you can steer doing a wheelie :)

[lammypie]

i get what your saying but er if your good enough you can steer doing a wheelie :)


this.. just think, half of your steering isnt done by the front wheel even with both on the ground

[Bluefish]

lol, that vid, thought it was gonna end up nasty when he revved it like that :D, i can do that though, just don't like showing off :^o

[lammypie]

the riders name is fuginama... but his nicknames always been fujigas.. i wonder why..

if you really want to see what they can make these bikes do looky at this bloke.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNXPflPh-8M
only turn the sound off unless you're into god awful music

[Ceri JC]

only turn the sound off unless you're into god awful music

Jesus wept. You weren't joking about the music, were you?

[mabozzar]

thier easy .....when ye know how,, i read all the posts... o guys reving it to 9k revs anletting go o the clutch...Watch out... ye only need 3/4 thou revs.. an when itrises...blip the throttle... its easy said,, but harder to do it.... when ye kin Float...come back tae me......cheers.

Whats better, loooong wheelie or knee down action?
LOOOOONG wheelies is ma Thing... especialy when ye get tae the "Floating" stage,, then ye kin relax an enjoy yersel.....ive blew up an roasted two Dommie engines... ave wheelied jist about everything ave been on... broke ma shoulder, once.. practising an flipping... another time nearly cut ma left foot off.. flipped it..an aul xl 500...

The xl 500 is the best bike ever tae learn wheelies.. if ye dont know whit yer doin,, watch out.. a sv is a good bike tae wheelie an be in control .. but yer better learnin on an aul trailbike...

I remember around 6/7 years ago.. me an ma mate where doin 1st gear off the throttle wheelies burnin out in 1st gear an thinkin we wir wheelie kings.......that was so long ago

I now without boasting can do wheelies, an go up the box.. dae 2nd... 1st is too fierce... if yer learning take it easy.. an try an keep that back brake covered... the first thing ye do when its too high is go offthe throttle.. tae bring it back down.. but the best way is the rear brake... but it doesnt always work out like that...dont think ye`l do them over nite.. as me an two pals practised 2/3 nites a week all summer a couple o years ago.. its paid off now..

I like an odd wheelie, an some time tae show off... especialy comming off a roundabout...if ye do it right ye can go around bends... . hers a guy goin a bit low ..dont know about about knee down.. but his handlebars are touchin the ground.. an the link is good... tae get tae this stage, ye need a LOT o practise. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqk3Cy8WrWo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqk3Cy8WrWo)
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[Shawthing]

After seein the profesionals do it, i know i aint got any chance of bein this good.

[-Ralph-]

The higher and further back your centre of gravity is, the happier the bike will be to rotate around the rear wheel, hence trail bikes, or a pillion, or standing on the rear pegs, will make wheelies much easier. If you throw a hammer, which end goes first?

[mabozzar]

how big is the hammer... and are ye throwin it wi yer left hand or yer right..

Jist tae clarify the wheelie scenario// i heard guys sayin rev it to 9k revs,, then let the clutch out...NAAAAAAAA. dont do that.

What ye kin do to start with is,, roll on an offthe throttle but only in first gear.. giving it a good handful when yer rollin on,, then ye see yer front comming up.. a think when ye master that, ye`l feel better about ..half clutchin in second gear wi a handfu....

if ye had to rev the thing to 9k revs then let the clutch go.. a think it wid throw ye aff the back,, an ye kin watch yer bike soemersault down the road... Believe me when I say this..

a long while ago when i had a honda xl250... it was 83.. i was 24... I could wheelie for as long as the day,but i was sitting on the very back o the seat, wi ma feet hangin inches off the ground,, i remember doin this in front o a couple o burds.. an yes it happened.. I slipped right off the back an the bike dragged me.. i had on a brand new pair o Ashmans the ones wi the red white an blue stripes up the front,, wi ma fisherman socks turned over the top o them... they were two days old, £84 they were.... the wore the toe right thru on the two boots right thru the blue plastic...an also right thru the kees o ma jeans tae the very bone.. ye kin imagine it eh... me hangin on fur grim death, an the number plate all bent up at the back, the inside o ma arms are gettin road rash as well.....

another time I was a KE 125,, i said tae the guy kin ye do a wheelie,, he says aye a wee bit,, wait an al show ye.... again it flipped,, an I let it go,, it bounced off a few cars parked on each side o the road.......

master the roll on Roll off first.. then ye kin go fur the half clutchin in second gear... what yew do is go around 25/35 mph... in second gear... roll off the throttle an in the same time ye give it a handfu as ye blirb the throttle to say around the 5/6 thousand revs,, ye let go of the half clutch, an when it rises, ye MUST blirp the throttle to get some height on it, then if yer lucky enough to get it all the way up to the balance point which is Called Floating in the wheelie talk... click it in to 3rd gear without the clutch as ye blirp the throttle...if you manage this,, you will instantly feel much more relaxed an feel ye could ride all day... not only that ye`l feel like Doug Domokus the Wheelie King.. dae ye`s think i got here with out learning it....

but if yer prepared to try it...be also prepared to come off it...If ye can KEEP THE REAR BRAKE COVERED.... and the best way too loearn is on a slight upwards hill... not too much of a hill... you will get it up wi practise.. Enjoy

[hongman]

I can't read your posts anymore, takes too much effort

[Kenzie]

Yeah, but I bet your reading it in a Scottish accent in your mind!

[hongman]

It's impossible not to!

[mabozzar]

Sorry Hongman......i THINK its easy to read, i was never good at Grammar at school.. so a dont know where al the ,,,,,,,, or ........... go but when ye do see a series o Dots...... thats when ye have a wee break ana breath before the next wordin.. its easy...I write as I talk... an a know it upsets some o you guys. but a`l tell ye this..when some Jocks write me < i have a hard time wi it...

awellcopyerwhachfursumothisanawayanbileyerheidyamu gye

[Webber]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0b86eW8ffA

Skip the first part of video will make your eyes bloody hurt.

Makes it all look so easy on an SV!

[mabozzar]

yea. ave saw this guy before... did ye see the size o his rear sprocket.. it must be around 60 tooth

I had a XLR 250 before an had a pal make me a sprocket when the rear was supposed to be 47.. i had a 62 on it.. it would pull away in 4th gear.. an go at walkin pace intop gear... flat out it would only go 45mph.. this be the same wi this sv.. maybe a heavier flywheel,, an big sprocket,, ye could pull that up in 3rd easy off the throttle.. ibet....

[mabozzar]

I mlike this guy.. this wid be so cool to do.. but would need some nice playground pavement.. not wi the roads we have.. it wid shred our tyres in an hour

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtE479LtSQ8&feature=relate

but disnt yer heart jist go out to this Fa@@y the poor soul..after the Off.. he looks down at his headlight as he see his face in it, an says to himself...aye am a Fanny


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlYymSFq5L4&feature=related

[-Ralph-]

awellcopyerwhachfursumothisanawayanbileyerheidyamu gye

Translation:

Oh well, cop your whack for some of this and go away and boil your head

http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=billy+connolly+cop+yer+whack

[hongman]

No apologies needed, grammar like , and . I can deal with, it's the spelling and stuff.

It doesn't annoy me or anything, just saying it takes too much effort to read.

[Webber]

I can't read your posts anymore, takes too much effort

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