Changes to Mod 1

[Terah]

Just seen the changes coming in for Mod 1. Notable one is that the emergency stop is before the avoidance exercise, and you can only do the avoidance if you have successfully done the e stop.

http://www.dft.gov.uk/dsa/News.asp?id=SXC63E-A783A660&cat=593

[Kenzie]

Can't wrap my head around the new test stuff. I did mine in 2001 and it was cbt>theory>test which consisted of putting the bike on it's stand, a u-turn, an emergency stop, ride around the streets and a couple of questions!

[ImplodedHamster]

them changes look alot better actually, the first ride round the circuit for to familiarise yourself would be very helpful

[Ed]

For the high speed manoeuvres, DSA intends to introduce a degree of flexibility into the assessment of the speed requirement. There will be a five per cent tolerance of the speed required. (2 km/h below 50 km/h). Providing the candidate commits no faults other than not reaching the speed within this tolerance, the examiner should record this as a riding fault rather than a serious fault. (A riding fault will contribute to the result of the test. A serious fault would result in failure)

How do they know, do they use a speed gun?

The whole set of amends sounds very sensible to me.

[orose]

They do, as it happens...

I must admit, I do like that they've decoupled the swerve from the emergency stop, replacing the latter with a controlled stop (less precision required). It's also clear from the release why the DSA thought people were failing on that component...

[pce13]

How do they know, do they use a speed gun?

The whole set of amends sounds very sensible to me.

You ride through a speed trap just before you do emergency stop and swerve

[Terah]

How do they know, do they use a speed gun?

It's through a timing gate.

Having just done mod 1 recently, it all makes a lot of sense to me. I found the avoidance harder to do than the emergency stop, so I think it should be easier to do a gradual build up from controlled stop, to emergency stop, to avoidance.

[Ed]

I'd love to have a go, but only if the result don't count;)

[Specialone]

Trouble is, indicated speed is higher than actual speed, do they tell you to compensate ?

[orose]

Before these changes, there was no leeway on the speed measurements... you had to be doing a minimum of 50 kph on their equipment, or you would be sent around for another go. If you were short again, you would fail (might have been if you're short 3 times). No provision was made for weather either.

[kellyjo]

Not wanting to be contraversial but I did Mod 1 when it was first brought in. I know people had issues but I thought it was a fair enough test, I didnt think what was being asked was unreasonable (maybe the speeds on a 125 were a bit much given the space provided) but on a 500 I didnt feel unsafe with any aspect, and I did it in the rain!! I think it gave me confidence at slow control that I wouldnt have had if it had just been the road test.

[missyburd]

Trouble is, indicated speed is higher than actual speed, do they tell you to compensate ?
nope, you've just got to make sure the trap throws out the reading you need to pass, and the prep you do with your instructor allows you to do that.

choosing to ride preferred line

Not sure about having the examiner just observe the slow ride as opposed to walking in front with his clipboard...more potential for you to ride just that bit quicker than he'd like...

Am liking the not having to stop IN the blue cone space, takes pressure off. When I did mine I stopped almost short of the box when doing e-stop from nerves, fortunately my front spindle was JUST in so he gave it me (apparently that's where they take it from)

And a 5% tolerance for speed trap, that's MUCH better!

On the whole, wish I'd waited to do it now haha :-)

[markc123]

My Mod1 I did 49 on first pass and 50 on second. Was a bit too close! So the 5% margin would be welcome. At my test centre, 50kph felt quick as the turn wasn't that shallow.