Shoei's..

[Stuuk1]

I have been looking but can't find one... Are they even available?!

I need a shoei lid with a flick down internal sun visor, my HJC has it and I can't warrant spending in excess of £350 for a lid that doesn't meet my requirements....

Thanks!

[G]

Nope... Tinted Pinlock is the best you will get.

[Stuuk1]

Oh man...I really want a shoei aswell! I don't fit arai's as my chin rests on the chin guard bit...

[wyrdness]

Take a look at Schuberth. They're expensive, but you might be able to find a good deal on one. I went from a Shoei Raid II to a Schuberth and it was a huge improvment. It was really comfortable and quiet and the internal sun visor was great. Unfortunately it got damaged when I came off the bike, so I'lm back with the Shoei for now.

[Stuuk1]

I'm also moving towards a lid with a lift up front (unsure of the correct name) do any of you have one? Any advantages?

[WeegieBlue]

I'm also moving towards a lid with a lift up front (unsure of the correct name) do any of you have one? Any advantages?
I had one of those and while it was ok for ambling round the town, get up to any speed and they were noisy as hell. Didn't like it one bit. I think I also read that the flip up bit is a weak point if you ever land chin first but I never got to test that theory, luckily.....

[pookie]

Great at petrol stations as you dont have to remove lid. Also when going into and out of work.

Downside is its a bit heavy. It is slightly noisier..more high pitched whistling and a bit draftier. I have the bmw system 4.

Schuberth have the c3 which claims to be the best of both worlds..it got slated by andrew dalton on his blog.

http://www.whitedalton.co.uk/motorbike-blog/2009/06/schuberth-c3-lid-review/

Has integrated visor and is light. I've got my eye on the uvex gt500 with the variotronic lens

http://www.uvex-sports.de/en/motorsports/motorsports-news/flip-up-helmet-uvex-gt-500

But is a bit pricey and have yet to read any reviews or find anywhere that has it in.

[Stuuk1]

Thanks for the info guys, my one big fear is the chin slide and never understood why people would buy a half face helmet, I did think there would be a weak point in the lift up lids with regards to chin protection...

I'll have a good read up on them and see what the score is.

Surely shoei are being abit silly in not having a flick down internal sun visor inside the helmets? Is it not as big a seller as I think? I wouldn't buy without now I don't think!

[Amanda]

Hiya, neither of the high end helmet makers, Arai and Shoei, will be making a helmet with an internal sun visor. Both companies have said it compromises the safety of the helmet. Ultimately they are race helmets available for road use, therefore no need for internal sun visors as racers use tints. Personally I don't think its an issue, I have a Shoei and an Arai as my personal feelings are that they are the best and safest helmet to wear. I use tinted visor on the Arai and currently a tinted pinlock insert on my Shoei, problem solved. If I think I'm gonna be out late then I swap them over for clear.

[Vergey]

Have a look at Scorpion helmets, i moved to one from a shoei, and loved the internal drop down visor, though you may want to get the darker option one they offer. The fit on them is great due to pump up cheek pads, the only problem is they are a little on the heavy side, and dont have pinlock, though they are saying their next years models will have pinlock. I have since gone back to shoei because the fit suits me marginally better, but the scorpion was a lovely lid, just a shame I had a little spill in it. Oh and they are one of the biggest manufacturers in the states and have a pretty good sharp rating over here

http://www.helmetsuperstore.co.uk/Scorpion-EXO-1000-Air-E11_B2482I.aspx

[Vergey]

Or their Exo 900 has the flip front and the drop down visor

[Artful]

One big disadvantage for me with a flip up is that in a crash the front would just come off. I think they are actually classed as open faced .

Have you considered AGV? I quite fancy this for myself but with Blue instead of Red

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/AGV-S4-SV-Naked-White-Red-Full-Face-Helmet-Medium-/150440628769?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Helmets&hash=item2306f5d221

Sorry, Dont know how to shorten links.

Dave

[embee]

FWIW I have a Schuberth S1. The integral sunvisor is brilliant, but the S1 rated very poor on the SHARP ratings if they mean anything at all, there was a lot of debate whether the testing was done properly (head size/energy input etc), never heard the end of the dispute.

The build quality is pretty reasonable, comparable to Shoei/Arai in my experience. The write up by the White-Dalton blog put me off the C3 in a big way.

On previous helmets without a sunvisor I've used the chavvy tint strip you get for car windscreens, only a few quid and big enough to make dozens of helmet strips, you can also get graduated ones (look on ebay) if you prefer. Experiment a bit with some masking tape to decide where you want the strip, you have to ride with it to do this, simply trying the helmet on while standing in your street won't give you the right answer. I like it above the normal sight-line so it's just a sunstrip, but you look through clear visor at the road.

To be honest I've been perfectly happy with the strip across the top, just tilt your head down a bit if the sun is really bright. I'd quite happily go back to that arrangement, and for my next lid I'll be looking to go back to Shoei/Arai. Worth experimenting on your current helmet before deciding you must have the integral sunvisor.

[embee]

...update...

I've just got a Shoei Qwest and so far it's great. Very light, very good ventilation, very good noise levels (and that's comparing to a Schuberth S1), build quality appears to be top rate. Just need to sort out a sun strip before I'm off on hols to Italy ...:cool: Definitely recommend considering the Qwest/XR1100 (XR1100 more suited to sports position, Qwest suited to upright/touring).

Got a very good discount from http://www.vcustoms.co.uk/ , excellent customer service. They are a relatively small outfit, but carry good quality brands and can get stuff in the next day if you order. They got me some gloves (needed non-stocked size) and posted FOC, they said phone with card details when I received the gloves.

[danf1234]

Good aren't they. I love my Qwest, it's the best one yet. I came from an XR1000

[kaimera]

...update...

I've just got a Shoei Qwest and so far it's great. Very light, very good ventilation, very good noise levels (and that's comparing to a Schuberth S1), build quality appears to be top rate. Just need to sort out a sun strip before I'm off on hols to Italy ...:cool: Definitely recommend considering the Qwest/XR1100 (XR1100 more suited to sports position, Qwest suited to upright/touring).

Got a very good discount from http://www.vcustoms.co.uk/ , excellent customer service. They are a relatively small outfit, but carry good quality brands and can get stuff in the next day if you order. They got me some gloves (needed non-stocked size) and posted FOC, they said phone with card details when I received the gloves.
thanks for the url!

£16 delivery to ireland; saved about 100e off the cost elsewhere on a new lid.