View Full Version : Fitting a ZX10 06 shock to a Curvy
Just finished! :)
The standard red spring is pants and completely wrong (because this shock is usually for the pointies :) ) so we stripped the spring off the old Curvy spring and fitted that to the ZX10 shock. The yellow spring looks better anyway because its a yellow bike :)
Only thing that needed changing was the 1st preload collar at the top needs fitting the other way around.
Battery tray cut as usual.
Job jobbed and its incredible how easy this was to do for the performance of the shock now.
Settings for preload and rebound are 3.5 out and 2.5 turns out respectively (but these may change once he's rode the bike).
Pics coming soon...
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mister c
13-04-11, 03:36 PM
Must be my weight, but I find the red spring on my ZX shock spot on. I am a big fat begger though :)
Mr Speirs
13-04-11, 03:39 PM
As far as I was aware the 06 ZX10 shock was always for the Curvy's. The spring rate is far too high for pointies. The curvy spring you put on that shock is 30lbs/ft softer than the ZX10 spring.
If memory serves me right the curvy is 510 and the 06 ZX10r is 540.
This was all from back when I swapped mine over so my memory is a wee bit hazy on the subject.
We googled this for an hour this morning. The ZX10 06 shock has a 465lb/in spring (http://forum.svrider.com/showthread.php?t=80387). Wayyyy to soft for the curvy, just about right for the pointy (relatively speaking)
99-02 SV650 337mm 510# Stock
03-04 SV650 330mm 430# stock 2nd gen
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Mr Speirs
13-04-11, 04:05 PM
Ah yeah I remember now they changed the spring rate in 06. 04-05 was 540 or summat. I had the 05 version. Apologies carry on.
Bike apart..
http://www.corporateflyfishing.com/images/minitwin/zx10a.jpg
changing springs...
http://www.corporateflyfishing.com/images/minitwin/zx10b.jpg
In the bike...
http://www.corporateflyfishing.com/images/minitwin/zx10c.jpg
Yep, they changed spring rates all over the place for them. The 05 shock has an angled reservoir on the top. The 06/07 shock has a perpendicular reservoir.
I also had to dress the shock mounts up very slightly as they were about half a mm too wide for the curvy fittings but its a tiny job on a sanding bent.
With the red spring there was 6cm of sag with all the gubbings off the back of the bike, even when set to max preload. So we whipped it out and fitted the standard curvy spring and it was perfect at 1.5cm with the preload about 3/4 down.
Andy's bike feels bloody excellent now! What a transformation. (he's already done his forks)
mister c
13-04-11, 05:40 PM
Aha, mine must be a newer shock, thats ok then...... Carry on lol :)
looking good. Andy must be chuffed getting back on the road.
on a side note did that stupid battery box work?
Well... Dunno, we couldn't get it to fit :) I had no info on it and didn't want to hack the bike to bits without info.
Was it supposed to go on the horizontal top bars or the diagonal side bars?
Its still a work in progress and may make its way on next week.
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well from the picture that mr smith sent me i made it so his battery would be in the same position as was in the picture.
soooooo, the box goes on the main rear subframe diagonal bars with the rails of the box (the ones with the holes drilled in them) resting on the main rails of the rear subframe. the opening of the box goes towards the back of the bike and the battery goes front or back side down inside the tray (depending on how long the battery connections are). the picture he sent me had the battery sitting horizontal in front of the tank between the main upper subframe rails.
take the tray and stand it up (rails with holes vertical) then put the battery in the tray then lie the tray on its back (rails with holes now horizontal) then all will become apparent.
Ok,
...Its a very nice box! :)
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andrewsmith
13-04-11, 09:03 PM
Ok,
...Its a very nice box! :)
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Rofl.....
Bib the Spanner thing is apt! Been a grade A* premium plonker.
Anyways the bikes fine, the settings B dialled in off the bounce test
dont put yourself down m8. at the end of the day its all just sizz and giggles.
if we never made mistakes we would not learn anything.
but yes you are a spanner rofl.
runs and hides
andrewsmith
13-04-11, 09:10 PM
its alright mate. I know i am this time
How you think this thread came around!
Chandler93
14-04-11, 04:50 PM
So from this, I'm presuming that it's just a straight-swap with the standard SV shock? Plus the removal of the battery cover?
Mines a K3s model so is there any difference from the K6n used on the SVrider forum guide?
Also how well would the ZX10 spring work with my 14 stone (88kg) weight? And how would it cope with the addition of a full top-box and panniers?
Thanks, Mike.
P.S. I'm pretty crap at this sort of stuff so I prefer to just ask and learn!
ask away m8. but i would suggest that you start a new thread unless that is its ok with andy a berlin.
if you have a dig around the forum there is tons of knowledge on the exact subject.
but in a short condensed answer:
yes its the same as the svrider guide
there is a website that tells you all the spring rates..
Mr Speirs
14-04-11, 05:23 PM
The ZX10R shock would do well with your weight but make sure you buy the right year. 06-07 is right but 04-05 is wrong. You can identify them by the angle resivour on the shock. If it is 90 degrees from the shock you have the correct 06-07 shock if it is more a 45 degree upwards angle that's too old. Both shocks are gold with a red spring.
Chandler93
14-04-11, 05:29 PM
ask away m8. but i would suggest that you start a new thread unless that is its ok with andy a berlin.
if you have a dig around the forum there is tons of knowledge on the exact subject.
but in a short condensed answer:
yes its the same as the svrider guide
there is a website that tells you all the spring rates..
Cheers! I thought it would be easier just to keep it in one thread so there isn't more being posted about the same old stuff =P
The ZX10R shock would do well with your weight but make sure you buy the right year. 06-07 is right but 04-05 is wrong. You can identify them by the angle resivour on the shock. If it is 90 degrees from the shock you have the correct 06-07 shock if it is more a 45 degree upwards angle that's too old. Both shocks are gold with a red spring.
Right, i'll look out for that!
Found a good condition one on ebay for £100 so i'll just keep an eye out in the next month or so to see if one pops up cheaper!
yorkie_chris
14-04-11, 05:31 PM
Are you sure that is right? I think that is 06 shock he has which is soft and it is 04-05 one which is correct.
Both are gold but earlier one has much yellower light gold colour, like ohlins gold rather than dark bronzey colour.
Mr Speirs
14-04-11, 05:33 PM
Don't expect to pay much more than £60...in fact I paid £35 for mine.
As an equally good alternative you can look at GSXR shocks too. Ill try n find the table for you so you can take a look yourself. Gives you more options. GSXR shock are easier to come by and cheaper.
Heres the table:
http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=162519
03/04 GSXR 1000 shock I think is the best suited.
Mr Speirs
14-04-11, 05:36 PM
Are you sure that is right? I think that is 06 shock he has which is soft and it is 04-05 one which is correct.
Both are gold but earlier one has much yellower light gold colour, like ohlins gold rather than dark bronzey colour.
It is correct, chandler is asking about a shock replacement for a pointy. Which means the 06 is correct for pointy.
Judging from the pics I can't tell the difference in colour? The one in this thread looks the same as my old one apart from the angle of the res.
yorkie_chris
14-04-11, 05:38 PM
For pointy? I would go for late model ZX6R triple clicker one, length is spot on, spring rate is fine for most people.
Best matched shock for any donor/recipient combo IMO.
http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL99/1957287/19290607/395217265.jpg
Early one
andrewsmith
14-04-11, 08:10 PM
It is correct, chandler is asking about a shock replacement for a pointy. Which means the 06 is correct for pointy.
Judging from the pics I can't tell the difference in colour? The one in this thread looks the same as my old one apart from the angle of the res.
There is two versions of the 06-07 shock
The lightish gold shock is an earlier one and there is a black one with the silver spring is the same shock.
The 06-07 shock res is a almost horizontal (to the shock body).
Stonesie
14-04-11, 08:49 PM
So would a 2007 black/silver ZX6 shock be good on a pointy?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Kawasaki-zx6R-Rear-Shock-Ohlins-WP-Nitron-Maxton-K-Tec-/200598082358?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item2eb493d336
m`baubz
15-04-11, 12:16 PM
it's longer than a stock pointy shock, so will raise the back a tad. the spring is heavier too and that's probably a plus. the reservoir will foul with the battery.
in terms of shape, the 06-07 zx10r shock is a good choice for a pointy as you don't need to touch the
battery box - as i'm sure you've read on svrider. on the downside, the spring is not very much harder.
you could follow berlin's example and get a 06-07 10r shock + a used curvy spring. shouldn't cost too much..
andrewsmith
15-04-11, 09:10 PM
you could follow berlin's example and get a 06-07 10r shock + a used curvy spring. shouldn't cost too much..
Word of warning for anyone thinking about trying it.
Make sure you have a proper set of spring pullers as it can become dangerous.
Also to save stripping another shock, ktech and others do heavier springs that would fit the shock!
If you have fitted the spring collar back to front, how is it locating the spring? I tried to do this on my dads curvy and gave up as the yellow curvy spring is simply too small a diameter to fit without this kind of bodgery; you can't even fit the plastic collar to protect the piston rod and seals. I picked up a later ZX10R shock very cheap and used the 510lb spring on the curvy, and fitted the 465lb spring to the ZZR1400 shock on my pointy.
The ZX10R shock would do well with your weight but make sure you buy the right year. 06-07 is right but 04-05 is wrong. You can identify them by the angle resivour on the shock. If it is 90 degrees from the shock you have the correct 06-07 shock if it is more a 45 degree upwards angle that's too old. Both shocks are gold with a red spring.
Not always, you can get ZX10R shocks from the same year with the 90 degree reservoir that have plated sliver springs on a black coloured body.
The ZZR1400 shock is better fit if you don't want to raise the rear on a pointy, it's exactly the same length as the OEM shock. However, the spring rate is 540 lbs, probably too high for most people unless afflicted with pie retention issues (like myself) or you are using the bike for track days.
andrewsmith
16-04-11, 01:52 PM
If you have fitted the spring collar back to front, how is it locating the spring? I tried to do this on my dads curvy and gave up as the yellow curvy spring is simply too small a diameter to fit without this kind of bodgery; you can't even fit the plastic collar to protect the piston rod and seals. I picked up a later ZX10R shock very cheap and used the 510lb spring on the curvy, and fitted the 465lb spring to the ZZR1400 shock on my pointy.
We left it off. Its a feature to stop stone chips as the zx 10 dont have stone guards as std. A hugger or stock guard does the same
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