a picture can tell a 1000 stories

[timwilky]

So, I know it is after the event, but do you think the poor biker with leg injuries after this will be held accountable.
http://www.lep.co.uk/webimage/a6_crash1_1_3300473%21image/92233774.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_595/92233774.jpg

to me this looks a clear case of car cuts corner, does not look where he is going and OMG that bike must be flying to suddenly appear at the T junction.

[454697819]

impossible to say without knowing more about the incident,

get well soon to all

[Milky Bar Kid]

As Mr numbers says, who knows. One thing I do know is that MUST have smarted at tad!

[benji106]

am I being thick, I cant see bike or biker in that pic?

[timwilky]

What is left of his bike is between verge and fire engine. Photo obviously after the ambulance left driver has whiplash and shock

[benji106]

Ah right. position of car would certainly suggest the driver was cutting the corner, hard to see how it would end up where it is otherwise. Were you there when it happened then? looks like bike was moving to end up there, guess biker was turning left?

[Bluepete]

It looks to me as if the car was turning right into the side road. There is damage to the bonnet on the nearside of the car and the bonnet has been lifted and moved left. That suggests the bike was going along the main road and the car turned across it's path.

Pete ;)

[Quedos]

Hmm BP = that my gut instinct too

[benji106]

I see what you mean but it looks like there is more damage to the offside. To my untrained eye it looks as if the main impact was on that side.

[Bluepete]

I see what you mean but it looks like there is more damage to the offside. To my untrained eye it looks as if the main impact was on that side.

Offside, nearside, I always get them mixed up!

Yeah, drivers side damage.

Pete ;)

[thedonal]

Ouch. Hope those involved make a quick and relatively painless recovery.

Makes me realise just how lucky I was last month.

I never get the offside/nearside thing- more WHY?! Why not just say right or left of car or driver/passenger side?!

[Teejayexc]

Yes it can, but without facts you're pi55ing in the wind summising :(

[Dicky Ticker]

You can't get mixed up if you use port and starboard;)
LH-RH depends on which way you are facing
Drivers-Passenger depends if its a rh or lh drive car

[bluebird]

You can't get mixed up if you use port and starboard;)
LH-RH depends on which way you are facing
Drivers-Passenger depends if its a rh or lh drive car

I don't think it matters if the car is lh or rh drive, I think it works in relation to the kerb, ie, nearside is 'near' the 'side' of the road/kerb....although I could be wrong, I usually am :confused:

[yorkie_chris]

Why are you asking if the biker will be held accountable? What do you know about story that you are not letting on?
Not like the full article gives anything useful to add anyway, but what story does that picture tell you?

Looks like a plausibly rural location, possibly a 60 limit, quite easy for 200kg of metal to do that damage at a legal speed.

[Milky Bar Kid]

I don't think it matters if the car is lh or rh drive, I think it works in relation to the kerb, ie, nearside is 'near' the 'side' of the road/kerb....although I could be wrong, I usually am :confused:

That's right enough. And seriously Pete, even I can get that right!

[timwilky]

Why are you asking if the biker will be held accountable? What do you know about story that you are not letting on?
Not like the full article gives anything useful to add anyway, but what story does that picture tell you?

Looks like a plausibly rural location, possibly a 60 limit, quite easy for 200kg of metal to do that damage at a legal speed.

I have trying and obviously failing to be sarcastic. I know nothing more than you guys, the picture was published in my local rag as an explanation for the road being shut. And actually it is a 50 limit at that location.

I posted it as an example of a SMIDSY, eyes open and see nought. I cannot understand how anyone could try to make that turning.

[Paul the 6th]

I posted it as an example of a SMIDSY, eyes open and see nought. I cannot understand how anyone could try to make that turning.

the driver may well have seen the motorcycle but if I remember rightly there was an article about how it's harder for other road users to judge the speed of an oncoming bike in comparison to a car which has 2 headlights on the front, therefore 2 points of reference which move closer towards you while the distance between them becomes wider - with the bike there's just the one headlight with a much narrower body behind it, so the human brain has to put more effort in.

If the car driver was in a bit of a rush they may well have thought "I've got time if I'm quick"... So between the poor judgement of the car driver and the speed of the bike there's possibly an answer in there somewhere?

Then throw in any impairment (drink/drugs/lack of sleep?), does the car driver have a current valid licence to be on the road (banned or never even bothered with test?), what's the mechanical condition of the car like?, was the driver on the phone or fiddling with the radio at the time? lots and lots of other things on the car drivers part..

then for the motorcyclist it would boil down to what sort of speed he was carrying I guess (along with the drink/drugs/licence/mechanical state of the bike).

I'm going to carry out a full inquest into this picture for you Tim, don't worry :cyclopsani:

[AndyBrad]

not dave then?

[Luckypants]

It looks to me as if the car was turning right into the side road. There is damage to the bonnet on the OFFside of the car and the bonnet has been lifted and moved left. That suggests the bike was going along the main road and the car turned across it's path.

Pete ;)

I agree with Pete (corrected the quote for offside) and perhaps the car did turn across the bike's path. If that is the case and the damage was to the offside, what direction was the bike going in? To me it looks likely that bike was overtaking at the junction and the car turned across him...

Tim, if I'm right, then poor biker has made a mistake and paid for it.

But a good chance I'm wrong! :rolleyes:

[davepreston]

not dave then?
andy
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[Dicky Ticker]

As per title -----------------but not always the truth