iStalker

[SoulKiss]

I've always found the regularity that "Every Breath You Take" (aka The Stalker Song) gets played as the first song at weddings.

Well it seems that Steve is a big fan of The Police, or maybe its just Sting, who knows maybe its just that song.

It seems that any iDevice with 3G capabilities and running iOS 4, has been caching where its owners have been, when they were there, then, when syncing with iTunes, sending that info back to Big Jobs. (http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2011/04/how-apple-tracks-your-location-without-your-consent-and-why-it-matters.ars?utm_source=Ars+Technica+Newsletter&utm_campaign=d5c8969a76-April_22_2011_Newsletter&utm_medium=email)

Just another reason not to buy Apple for me, not that I really needed one or course.

[DarrenSV650S]

So if there is no way to wipe the data, if someone bought a second-hand iphone could they see everywhere that phone has been?

[Mr Speirs]

**** the bed, you probably shouldn't buy an Andriod either eh?

http://www.infosecurity-us.com/view/17566/apple-and-android-smartphones-silently-track-their-users/

[toxic]

what about blackberry?

it would worry me if they did, my bunny boiler ex works for Research in motion.

[SoulKiss]

**** the bed, you probably shouldn't buy an Andriod either eh?

http://www.infosecurity-us.com/view/17566/apple-and-android-smartphones-silently-track-their-users/

Android's version is turn-offable.

Apple's isnt, they give the option to turn off logging of the GPS system, but silently log the Cell-Tower and Wifi Access point info.

Not seen any reports that Google are doing it unannounced.

[Skip]

Playing devils advocate - "so what?"

[maviczap]

Colud come in handy if you've lost your iphone ;)

[SoulKiss]

Playing devils advocate - "so what?"
Obviously theres a little thing called privacy that you have forgotten about.

[grimey121uk]

Omg this is so scary, I was gonna put details on here of my Easter ride plans best not now Incase someone stalks me. I'm going to bin my sat nav to Incase it gets stolen as that will likely have my home address programed on.

Seriously though I can't see how this is a problem, mobile companies keep a track of which cell tower you called from, your bank account tracks where you spend money and half the world seem pretty keen about putting every detail of their life on facebook

[SoulKiss]

Omg this is so scary, I was gonna put details on here of my Easter ride plans best not now Incase someone stalks me. I'm going to bin my sat nav to Incase it gets stolen as that will likely have my home address programed on.

Seriously though I can't see how this is a problem, mobile companies keep a track of which cell tower you called from, your bank account tracks where you spend money and half the world seem pretty keen about putting every detail of their life on facebook

The amazing thing is that this is a common view, that it is so readily accepted.

Mind you, this is coming from someone who used to routinely meet up with some friends and we would randomly swap Tesco Clubcards and Oyster Cards.

Just claiming that its "for statistical analysis" seems to be all it takes to have people roll over and say "oh go on then".

Yes I do use Android and Google, and as such have had to make certain compromises, but these are considered rather than just accepted.

[grimey121uk]

Google are the on to watch in terms of tracking people as the continue to buy up every aspect of the web in ofer to advertise

[grimey121uk]

This week I ordered an expensive Easter egg for my mrs, not knowing the exact website I googles it and made the purchase, what do I find on every bloody YouTube video and forum banner advert, the bloody chocolate website. I then have my mrs hinting she wants an egg from this site, this happens on any machine from my ip

Apple makes it's money selling hardware and software

Google makes it's money form advertising, which requires them to know everything about you

[metalangel]

Colud come in handy if you've lost your iphone ;)

That's what MobileMe is for. It tells you where it is, lets you remotely disable it and/or broadcast a noise (so if it's somewhere in your house, on silent, under a cushion, you can still find it)

[hongman]

I'm of the idgaf camp. Not because I dint value my privacy, but because I don't really care if mr jobs knows where I have been.

I can see both sides really. Yes it's a bit naughty, ESP doing it on the sly. But (and I maybe being naive) what harm can it do? They can analyse it as much as they want.

It could even be useful? Say a murder scene somehow had a payg number linked to it. They could use the system to possibly track the number to a locality?

[SoulKiss]

I'm of the idgaf camp. Not because I dint value my privacy, but because I don't really care if mr jobs knows where I have been.

I can see both sides really. Yes it's a bit naughty, ESP doing it on the sly. But (and I maybe being naive) what harm can it do? They can analyse it as much as they want.

It could even be useful? Say a murder scene somehow had a payg number linked to it. They could use the system to possibly track the number to a locality?

The system uses Cell triangulation.

This is NOT accurate.

But COULD put you near the scene of said murder when you were 5 miles away.

Doesn't their presumption to record this without giving you an option to turn it off not offend you even a little?

[hongman]

It should, but it doesnt...maybe a bit too relaxed? :D