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missyburd
23-04-11, 06:12 PM
...and I know I probably shouldn't be doing this but I'm really just looking for feedback not selling my wares (although obviously that helps...)
Mods please delete this thread if you deem it unsuitable I won't be offended :smt083 (and if anyone sees it before it gets deleted then I'm still better off :mrgreen:)
I now have a proper website, made from scratch, by me and only me. I am by NO MEANS a techy whizzkid genius but I have huffed, puffed and tantrummed (yes it's not a proper word, TOUGH!) through this site and it's still not finished but it's good enough to show to you fine people and it gets the point across.
Now it is best opened in Mozilla Firefox or Google Chrome. I don't use Internet Explorer and on testing the site in this browser the site appears a tad disjointed but the links work and you can still read what needs to be read. Here it be www.megghyll.co.uk (http://megghyll.co.uk/)
Please give me your feedback (constructive OR critical, it's all appreciated).
Thankyou so very muchlies!
Maria/MYC/Meg Ghyll :D
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/224653_10150588602970553_879760552_18265703_399827 2_n.jpg
And JUST to mention bikes, I am so very chuffed with my practically new Yellow Curvy :D
SoulKiss
23-04-11, 06:14 PM
...and I know I probably shouldn't be doing this but I'm really just looking for feedback not selling my wares (although obviously that helps...)
Mods please delete this thread if you deem it unsuitable I won't be offended :smt083 (and if anyone sees it before it gets deleted then I'm still better off :mrgreen:)
I now have a proper website, made from scratch, by me and only me. I am by NO MEANS a techy whizzkid genius but I have huffed, puffed and tantrummed (yes it's not a proper word, TOUGH!) through this site and it's still not finished but it's good enough to show to you fine people and it gets the point across.
Now it is best opened in Mozilla Firefox or Google Chrome. I don't use Internet Explorer and on testing the site in this browser the site appears a tad disjointed but the links work and you can still read what needs to be read. Here it be www.megghyll.co.uk (http://megghyll.co.uk/)
Please give me your feedback (constructive OR critical, it's all appreciated).
Thankyou so very muchlies!
Maria/MYC/Meg Ghyll :D
Well I have seen it :p
Looks fine from here, a bit "naieve" in style, but that kind of works :)
Well done.
missyburd
23-04-11, 06:16 PM
Well I have seen it :p
Looks fine from here, a bit "naieve" in style, but that kind of works :)
Well done.
Cheers SK. I was going to go for some Javascript stuff but to be bluntly honest, I've had enough of this website stuff for now so can come back to that at a later date when I've recovered. How folks do this for a living I'll never know!
Very nice work indeed and of course, nice work on the website.
It just so happens that I am looking in to learning HTML and then java.
What way did you go about it?
P.s. I'm not derailing this thread....
husky03
23-04-11, 06:35 PM
you have a gift there miss yc:).
Drop the wee negative line about being new, your art work itself speaks volumes and your only being self detracting there.
I will need to come up with some readies this year and get you to do one of me dogs.
missyburd
23-04-11, 06:45 PM
Very nice work indeed and of course, nice work on the website.
It just so happens that I am looking in to learning HTML and then java.
What way did you go about it?
P.s. I'm not derailing this thread....
You're not derailing, I hope to learn things from people in the know too :) I cheated and used Kompozer, one of those WYSIWYG programs. I'm more visual than techy, I like to see where I put things etc so Kompozer worked great for me. There are other programs though.
missyburd
23-04-11, 06:52 PM
FAO: Husky...that better? :)
SoulKiss
23-04-11, 06:54 PM
Cheers SK. I was going to go for some Javascript stuff but to be bluntly honest, I've had enough of this website stuff for now so can come back to that at a later date when I've recovered. How folks do this for a living I'll never know!
I was talking about the general design, choice of font etc rather than the technology involved. Javascript is mostly unnecessary in most cases, dont add stuff just for the sake of it.
Me, I do my sites in Notepad (when I can be bothered) but WYSIWYG is perfectly acceptable in this case I think.
I am only thankful that the Internet seems to have lost my first attempts at website design :p
husky03
23-04-11, 07:00 PM
much better lol-i find that the artists work is what sells their skills, the words don't matter,the art does:)
missyburd
23-04-11, 07:04 PM
I was talking about the general design, choice of font etc rather than the technology involved. Javascript is mostly unnecessary in most cases, dont add stuff just for the sake of it.
Ah regarding fonts, I had one I would have loved to use (the same as the name in the title banner) but it was only available in Ubuntu and wasn't recognized by much else. I used Comic Sans as it comes across as an "informal" font to me.
SoulKiss
23-04-11, 07:10 PM
Ah regarding fonts, I had one I would have loved to use (the same as the name in the title banner) but it was only available in Ubuntu and wasn't recognized by much else. I used Comic Sans as it comes across as an "informal" font to me.
Its the informality that I was referring to - as said I think you get away with it.
What was the font in Ubuntu BTW?
christopher
23-04-11, 07:11 PM
My poor eyes... Comic Sans (http://comicsanscriminal.com/)! :p
On the website side of things, getting rid of tables for the layout and positioning of content (tables are for tabular data) and using semantic HTML styled up using CSS would be much better, but as a first attempt it does what it needs to do as is.
It might be a bit more than you want to attempt, but there are a load of templates available to purchase from sites such as Themeforest (http://themeforest.net/) for not a lot of money which can then be edited/expanded upon.
The quality of your work (the drawings) speaks for itself so you've definitely done the right thing by putting various examples up. Especially like the photos of how the drawing progressed to demonstrate how you work. The site can always be changed at a later date, so I wouldn't worry too much about making it "perfect" in terms of build, focus on content for now.
Also, PM'd.
Speedy Claire
23-04-11, 07:14 PM
I`m not a website geek Maria but as a non geek the website looks great to me. I`m just drawn straight away to the artwork and it makes me want to look at more of the pictures.
Good work hun x
SoulKiss
23-04-11, 07:20 PM
My poor eyes... Comic Sans (http://comicsanscriminal.com/)! :p
On the website side of things, getting rid of tables for the layout and positioning of content (tables are for tabular data) and using semantic HTML styled up using CSS would be much better, but as a first attempt it does what it needs to do as is.
It might be a bit more than you want to attempt, but there are a load of templates available to purchase from sites such as Themeforest (http://themeforest.net/) for not a lot of money which can then be edited/expanded upon.
The quality of your work (the drawings) speaks for itself so you've definitely done the right thing by putting various examples up. Especially like the photos of how the drawing progressed to demonstrate how you work. The site can always be changed at a later date, so I wouldn't worry too much about making it "perfect" in terms of build, focus on content for now.
Also, PM'd.
Ok, so CSS/DIVs are the way to go these days for layout, but tables did it all first and for the most part well.
"tables are for tabular data" - which book did you get that out of?
Yes it IS technically true, but as said they became the standard for layout and as such, for a beginner, are acceptable in my opinon.
Do you ever reply to an email with a large file attached to it saying that "Email is for mail, FTP is for file transfer"?
As said, what MYC has done is functional - I personally didnt look at the HTML as she said it was done in a WYSWIG tool - which is ALWAYS going to look horrible to someone that can do it by hand.
Tech wise - the site gets a 6.5 out of 10, but functionality wise - and rating it by her target audience (not tech-geeks) its about a 9 - and yes its comic-sans thats the negative point - but then thats the font equivilent of rim-tape. :D
Teejayexc
23-04-11, 07:27 PM
Bngger !
When I read the thread title then quickly scrolled down to the piccy in yer post I though this was gonna be a strip tease, yeh I know I'm a sad ol git wi a mucky mind :oops:
Anyway back ot - website looks fine to my untrained eye, clear, to the point and most importantly displays your wares to their best advantage, oops there I go again :silent:.
Tj
DarrenSV650S
23-04-11, 07:36 PM
I love simple websites like that. They just work. Everything loads quick and there's no fancy floating menus that just annoy me.
I'd make some of the drawings clickable so you can see a bigger version to really see the detail. Dunno if that's bad for copyright though
Maybe it's just me but I think there's too many options at the top. You could incorporate the testimonials with the gallery section.
I think your onto a winner here, and I think the website is fantastic, a lot of websites nowadays are fussy and complicated.
I would include more of the German Shepard photo/finished article comparison as it highlights how good the work is. I would remove the line about your drawings not being exact copies it really plays down your skill which is a shame.
missyburd
23-04-11, 08:30 PM
First off, thankyou all SO MUCH for your constructive feedback, it really is just what I wanted out of this thread :D
What was the font in Ubuntu BTW?
Purisa. Perhaps Comic Sans is a big no no to all you tech folk but to me it was easy to read, wasn't times new roman or arial which I get fed up of seeing (as I'm sure you do of Comic Sans LOL). A lot of the people who like my work are often people not too familiar with computing so bearing that in mind I wanted a nice simple site that wasn't too flashy, easy to get round but had plenty of pictures in.
I`m not a website geek Maria but as a non geek the website looks great to me. I`m just drawn straight away to the artwork and it makes me want to look at more of the pictures.
Good work hun x
Thankyou as always Claire, you've been so supportive and I really am grateful :grouphug:
Bngger !
When I read the thread title then quickly scrolled down to the piccy in yer post I though this was gonna be a strip tease, yeh I know I'm a sad ol git wi a mucky mind :oops:
I had to get people's attention somehow!!! :takeabow:
yorkie_chris
23-04-11, 09:02 PM
http://www.explosm.net/db/files/Comics/Dave/comicsans2.png
SoulKiss
23-04-11, 09:08 PM
First off, thankyou all SO MUCH for your constructive feedback, it really is just what I wanted out of this thread :D
Purisa. Perhaps Comic Sans is a big no no to all you tech folk but to me it was easy to read, wasn't times new roman or arial which I get fed up of seeing (as I'm sure you do of Comic Sans LOL). A lot of the people who like my work are often people not too familiar with computing so bearing that in mind I wanted a nice simple site that wasn't too flashy, easy to get round but had plenty of pictures in.
Well you managed it in spades :)
Well done.
christopher
23-04-11, 09:35 PM
"tables are for tabular data" - which book did you get that out of?
Yes it IS technically true, but as said they became the standard for layout and as such, for a beginner, are acceptable in my opinon.
No book required. The HTML specification cleary lays out the t (http://[url=http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/tabular-data.html#the-table-element)able element (http://[url=http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/tabular-data.html#the-table-element)'s usage and even makes a point of saying it shouldn't be used as an aid for layout.
And not just technically true, but logically also. Would you write a novel in a spreadsheet program like Excel making use of cells to position headings, pull quotes and the likes? Bad example but you get the idea.
Just because tables for layout became a standard doesn't make it right. Could go back and forth but it'd derail this by quite a bit which I don't want to do...
(least it's keeping the thread up the top of recent posts for more people to see though :mrgreen:)
SoulKiss
23-04-11, 09:38 PM
No book required. The HTML specification cleary lays out the t (http://[url=http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/tabular-data.html#the-table-element)able element (http://[url=http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/tabular-data.html#the-table-element)'s usage and even makes a point of saying it shouldn't be used as an aid for layout.
And not just technically true, but logically also. Would you write a novel in a spreadsheet program like Excel making use of cells to position headings, pull quotes and the likes? Bad example but you get the idea.
Just because tables for layout became a standard doesn't make it right. Could go back and forth but it'd derail this by quite a bit which I don't want to do...
(least it's keeping the thread up the top of recent posts for more people to see though :mrgreen:)
The spec for an SV650 says to use parts X,Y and Z to form the suspension, doesn't stop people putting ZX-10 shocks and whole Gixxer front ends on them.
Besides, it wasn't her who made the choice - it was her software, probably because it doesn't talk CSS
missyburd
23-04-11, 09:38 PM
Well you managed it in spades :)
Well done.
Spades? As in buckets? Or more techspeak?
Oh and my software did do it, I just didn't know how to make it do it haha
SoulKiss
23-04-11, 09:41 PM
Spades? As in buckets? Or more techspeak?
Oh and my software did do it, I just didn't know how to make it do it haha
Buckets, Spades - whatever - I know lets call it Sandcastles... :p
And JUST to mention bikes, I am so very chuffed with my practically new Yellow Curvy :D
Simply the best kind of bike to have m'dear!
:)
(website looks good!)
Site looks great!
Soulkiss - how could Meg make their pics not right-click copyable (if that is a word)?
Specialone
24-04-11, 10:32 AM
I think the site looks good, top work :)
As others have said, it's clean and uncluttered, your work is what people wanna see and not loads of unnecessary content.
Best of luck with it, you are very talented.
Ps, when are you going to start drawing bikes ???
yorkie_chris
24-04-11, 10:47 AM
Ps, when are you going to start drawing bikes ???
About 2006
Wow, your drawings are awesome! :D
As for the website, it's great for your first one. If you delve in further, for longer, you will slowly pick up more and more knowledge of html etc which fur your purpose is more than adequate.
I used to learn by finding sites I liked and then either viewing the source code, or saving the index file and opening it up in my own WYSIWYG software such as MS Frontpage.
A note on your website, I can't quite see all the typing on Commissions page as it seems to be restricted by the table it's in. Internet Explore version 6 was fine but ver 8 cut the ends off. You've probably set the width as a percentage of the screen size I imagine.
Specialone
24-04-11, 11:11 AM
About 2006
Eh? Her website says she is starting with animals, or is this another one of your very poor attempts at sarcasm ;)?
yorkie_chris
24-04-11, 11:15 AM
She did me a drawing of a daytona several years ago, I get special rates you see :-P [/smug]
Owenski
24-04-11, 11:22 AM
She did me a drawing of a daytona several years ago, I get special rates you see :-P [/smug]
If thats what you call it ;)
I would say just the font... but I think thats been covered lol.
Calibri is my personal favorite ;)
Specialone
24-04-11, 11:22 AM
Can you post a pic up of it chris?
If she draws bikes as good as animals then I may need one of my sprint come birthday time :)
Owenski
24-04-11, 11:25 AM
You wanna get up to the bird of pray centre, I bet they'd commision a few pics to put in thier gift shop.
Specialone
24-04-11, 11:28 AM
Just had a thought, eBay ?
Run a regular auction for 1p selling a piece of paper, but what's drawn on it will cost £xxx.
Loads of people do this, another channel to explore ?
wyrdness
24-04-11, 11:41 AM
yes its comic-sans thats the negative point - but then thats the font equivilent of rim-tape. :D
Ha! Excellent analogy. Whilst Comic Sans is utterly wrong for business presentations or documents (though that doesn't seem to stop some people), it doesn't seem quite so inappropriate for an art website.
Lovely drawings btw myc.
a1istair
24-04-11, 06:54 PM
Hi,
I also really like your website. I like the huge emphasis on the drawings themselves which is after all what your site is about! Very easy to navigate also which is a huge plus.
As for fancy javascript, flash, etc... I wouldn't really bother. In most cases the way thay people use these detracts from the actual content or makes it more confusing. You could make all your pictures fly in from random directions but does that really add anything?!
I know technically you aren't supposed to do layouts using tables, but this is an old skool HTML tactic and as such has almost instant compatability across browsers. I have spent many a time puzzled once I have a website looking perfect in one browser only to find it looks wonky in a different browser because the syntax is subtly different.
Whether you love it or hate it internet explorer is stilll the most used web browser so it is worth checking your website every now and again using it.
I know fonts are a matter of personal preference, but Comic Sans has got to the stage where it is hated by some people. The problem is, as you have encountered, that every OS has their own fonts which are not normally universal. One way around this for things like the title and menu heaings is to use images instead.
When I view your links at the top of the page in a small window, because some have multiple words in then the text gets broken across many lines which spoils your table layout. The easiest way to avoid this is to replace the spaces between words with " " which is the code for a non-breaking space.
Hope this helps,
a1istair.
Quiff Wichard
24-04-11, 07:01 PM
its brill Maria..
lovely stuff.
very talented
-Ralph-
24-04-11, 07:28 PM
The website looks great Maria, your average Joe looking for an artist isn't that interested in how "technically good" the website is.
Your drawings are great and I especially like "Poppy", it has depth and life.
I personally think you under-sell yourself in some of the text. It comes across as the learning novice, and please buy my drawings because I am getting better with every attempt. That will only work if the drawings are considerably cheaper than the competition. A novice product, at a novice price. You are better than that so sell yourself as the artist that you are. People who spend money commissioning a drawing want to be assured that the result will be something that they are happy with. Your tesimonials help with this to an extent, but your text needs to portray more confidence in your ability.
Another small suggestion, is have your sample drawings as links which open a larger image. Not large enough to copy and print, but large enough to view nicely on screen, maybe 800x600.
The best of luck!
missyburd
25-04-11, 08:08 AM
Cheers Everyone, great advice and all being taken on board.
Site looks great!
Soulkiss - how could Meg make their pics not right-click copyable (if that is a word)?
I would like to do this but no idea how.
You wanna get up to the bird of pray centre, I bet they'd commision a few pics to put in thier gift shop.
Yep a cracking idea, cheers Matt :)
A note on your website, I can't quite see all the typing on Commissions page as it seems to be restricted by the table it's in. Internet Explore version 6 was fine but ver 8 cut the ends off. You've probably set the width as a percentage of the screen size I imagine.
Thanks Stenno. I had a lot of fun with the commissions page, trying to get the image as a background! I don't know how I can modify the site to look ok in IE and other browsers too but I can keep fiddling I guess.
missyburd
25-04-11, 08:10 AM
Whether you love it or hate it internet explorer is stilll the most used web browser so it is worth checking your website every now and again using it.
I know fonts are a matter of personal preference, but Comic Sans has got to the stage where it is hated by some people. The problem is, as you have encountered, that every OS has their own fonts which are not normally universal. One way around this for things like the title and menu heaings is to use images instead.
When I view your links at the top of the page in a small window, because some have multiple words in then the text gets broken across many lines which spoils your table layout. The easiest way to avoid this is to replace the spaces between words with " " which is the code for a non-breaking space.
Hope this helps,
a1istair.
I very much like you image idea for replacing the dreaded font, as Purisa is the one I like so should be able to get round that..
Very helpful post also, cheers Alistair :)
missyburd
25-04-11, 08:34 AM
Ps, when are you going to start drawing bikes ???
This is the only bike I've done properly and it was so finicky! Although it was enjoyable I'm not too sure I'd want to do too many more. Mind you, this was done 5 years ago, I'm a lot more practiced in scales and proportions now so who knows, maybe it wouldn't take me so long!
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v357/62/4/879760552/n879760552_4441120_5115.jpg
christopher
25-04-11, 10:46 AM
I would like to do this but no idea how.
I wouldnt advise stopping right clicking altogether, you'll just annoy visitors who right click out of habit to open links in new windows for example (yesmiddle clicking does the same thing, most people don't realise this though).
You could do similar to what Flickr does, and replace the right click context menu when on an image (as an example right click on the main image here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/22798093@N00/5645708656/)) but even that isn't much use, as it takes 5 seconds to get the image source... like so (http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5143/5645708656_d8037668ff_z.jpg).
The people likely to "take" the images will know the workarounds, those innocent people who just want to copy them into an email to show their friends and publicise you won't.
Oh and on the subject of fonts, yep static images is the easiest (but most difficult to keep updated) method but don't overdo it and make sure you use the ALT property. Screen readers and search engines won't "get" images, they'll hear/see the ALT text instead.
Better options exist if the licence on the font allows, such as converting it to work with CSS @font-face (http://www.miltonbayer.com/font-face/). That's probably over your head, but just a suggestion :p
The look and feel I really like, as has been mentioned previously it's the artwork people are looking at (which is great btw!), and a simple site layout works well for that.
Fonts - personally don't like Comic Sans either, though it does work alright on your site. There's a guide at http://www.bitvolution.com/using-the-purisa-light-font-on-a-website if you do want to use Purisa though (I think Purisa is GPL but as Cristopher said, best to check before using it)
Images - I wouldn't bother trying to block them either, too easy to get round. Best to just make sure they are the minimum size required to make them work on the site.
Tables vs CSS layouts - I'm firmly in the CSS camp as it's cleaner and more accessible. Do I think it matters for your site? Not really - just bear it in mind as something to look at later.
IE6/IE7 display issues - pretty sure this is because your table tags have the widths set as percentages, but the cells within the table are set to fixed pixel widths. Set the table widths to be fixed, or the cells to percentages, and that should sort it.
Out of interest, what's the main purpose(s) of the site?
missyburd
25-04-11, 07:22 PM
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IE6/IE7 display issues - pretty sure this is because your table tags have the widths set as percentages, but the cells within the table are set to fixed pixel widths. Set the table widths to be fixed, or the cells to percentages, and that should sort it.
Out of interest, what's the main purpose(s) of the site?
Cheers for the feedback Terah :-)
Main purpose is for people I've met or who have been told about me to have somewhere to look at my work. I haven't yet concentrated on trying to get those target words in, or make sure mine comes up trumps on search engines, I'm not too bothered atm about that because I need time to focus on my own art pieces. ANy commissions I get are currently either through friends and their families on facebook or the org, or people I have met at fairs etc. I prefer word of mouth business (well it suits me at this moment in time) as it's more personal but hopefully when I can get enough work together to exhibit I can then think about widening my audience, approaching big dog shows, magazines and such. Tis all to come :D
SoulKiss
25-04-11, 08:13 PM
Purisa is going to be a no-go - its not a standard windows font, so everything you did would have to be done as a graphic - which is even worse than tables for layout ;P
You could pecify to use Purisa if available, which would mean that on Ubuntu boxes it would be fine - its all down to whats installed on the person viewings machine.
christopher
25-04-11, 08:29 PM
Purisa is going to be a no-go - its not a standard windows font, so everything you did would have to be done as a graphic - which is even worse than tables for layout ;P
You could pecify to use Purisa if available, which would mean that on Ubuntu boxes it would be fine - its all down to whats installed on the person viewings machine.
Incorrect.
If the licence allows (and having checked, Purisa is GPL like Terah thought so no issues with this one) you can convert the font (here's a useful tool (http://www.fontsquirrel.com/fontface/generator)) so you have EOT, WOFF, TTF and SVG versions of it. This then allows you to embed the font using CSS @font-face which will work in Safari, IE 6-9, IE 9 Compatibility Modes, Firefox, Chrome, iOS, Android and Opera. You don't need to have the font installed locally. See here for an implementation example (http://www.fontspring.com/blog/further-hardening-of-the-bulletproof-syntax).
There are numerous other methods such as cufón (http://cufon.shoqolate.com/generate/) and sIFR (http://www.mikeindustries.com/blog/sifr). All of which have their own (dis)advantages. Though in my opinion the CSS @font-face method is the simplest/cleanest at present.
Long gone are the days of being stuck to 16 or so shared fonts among operating systems!
Edit:
And mainly to demonstrate just how quick and simple it is, here's the fonts on the web for almost everyone to see:
Purisa (http://www.edg3.co.uk/snippets/css-font-face/PurisaMedium-demo.html)
Purisa Bold (http://www.edg3.co.uk/snippets/css-font-face/PurisaBold-demo.html)
Purisa Bold Oblique (http://www.edg3.co.uk/snippets/css-font-face/PurisaBoldOblique-demo.html)
Purisa Oblique (http://www.edg3.co.uk/snippets/css-font-face/PurisaOblique-demo.html)
In that case what you've got is fine - and a really good first effort.
Always worth submitting the site to the main search engines if you've not done it already, and setting up Google Analytics so you can see what traffic you are actually getting - it can sometimes be quite a surprise.
Best thing you can do for the search engines is to make sure your content is relevant, and regularly updated - maybe add a page for each commission you complete. This is something that a basic CMS or blog system makes really easy - longer term you may want to think about moving your blog onto your main site.
Hope it all goes well, and really do like the artwork!
There are numerous other methods such as cufón (http://cufon.shoqolate.com/generate/) and sIFR (http://www.mikeindustries.com/blog/sifr). All of which have their own (dis)advantages. Though in my opinion the CSS @font-face method is the simplest/cleanest at present.
+1
missyburd
25-04-11, 10:04 PM
- longer term you may want to think about moving your blog onto your main site.
Hope it all goes well, and really do like the artwork!
Again, something I had thought of but didn't have the noddle to do it! And thankyou very much.
SoulKiss
25-04-11, 11:20 PM
Incorrect.
If the licence allows (and having checked, Purisa is GPL like Terah thought so no issues with this one) you can convert the font (here's a useful tool (http://www.fontsquirrel.com/fontface/generator)) so you have EOT, WOFF, TTF and SVG versions of it. This then allows you to embed the font using CSS @font-face which will work in Safari, IE 6-9, IE 9 Compatibility Modes, Firefox, Chrome, iOS, Android and Opera. You don't need to have the font installed locally. See here for an implementation example (http://www.fontspring.com/blog/further-hardening-of-the-bulletproof-syntax).
There are numerous other methods such as cufón (http://cufon.shoqolate.com/generate/) and sIFR (http://www.mikeindustries.com/blog/sifr). All of which have their own (dis)advantages. Though in my opinion the CSS @font-face method is the simplest/cleanest at present.
Long gone are the days of being stuck to 16 or so shared fonts among operating systems!
Edit:
And mainly to demonstrate just how quick and simple it is, here's the fonts on the web for almost everyone to see:
Purisa (http://www.edg3.co.uk/snippets/css-font-face/PurisaMedium-demo.html)
Purisa Bold (http://www.edg3.co.uk/snippets/css-font-face/PurisaBold-demo.html)
Purisa Bold Oblique (http://www.edg3.co.uk/snippets/css-font-face/PurisaBoldOblique-demo.html)
Purisa Oblique (http://www.edg3.co.uk/snippets/css-font-face/PurisaOblique-demo.html)
All well and good except...
OP doesn't know JS or CSS, and it doesn't look her editor can do that either
(or it would have DIV'd instead of TABLE'd)
Also it doesn't guarantee to work in all browsers without a load of faffing and updating as new versions break it.
Most importantly however.
I hadn't heard of it, most of the stuff I do (Internal Tools and the like that are function over form) usually just get done with font-family: sans; rather than being pretty. So thanks for the heads up on this tech :p
I still, however, stand by my point that at this early point in her web-slinging carrer, its an impossible task :p
missyburd
26-04-11, 07:31 AM
Always worth submitting the site to the main search engines if you've not done it already, and setting up Google Analytics so you can see what traffic you are actually getting - it can sometimes be quite a surprise.
Had a bit of a snoop at this Google Analytics, is there a catch? It does intrigue me how many people visit my blog, that being a service that just comes with the blog. All I'd want to be able to do is see the number of visits (daily etc) and perhaps the keywords or referral sites that are bringing people to my site. None of this techy stuff the Analytics site tells me I can do. Is it free for a certain time period or free depending on the number of hits you get?
Completely free. All you do is sign up for a Google account if you don't already have one, setup Analytics (simple step by step process), get your tracking code, then paste it in to the bottom of each of your pages (just before the closing body tag)
It can take a few hours for stats to start showing but once they do you'll get everything you're looking for as standard.
missyburd
26-04-11, 08:38 AM
Okiedoke, should be worth doing then :) Cheers!
christopher
26-04-11, 09:54 AM
Google Analytics is great, you get installation instructions once you've set up the profile. But just to note the code should go immediately before the </head> tag, not </body> (it used to be before the closing body tag but was updated quite some time ago).
Soulkiss, technical ability is one thing and I sort of agree but a blanket statement saying that it's a no go is wrong. So was more so just explaining that it's possible rather than anything else. And I reckon MYC would be fine doing it with a bit of guidance as it's not all that difficult really, hardest part is making sure your host has the various MIME types of the font files set correctly, frustratingly some still don't! Glad you learned something though, not meaning to pick at your comments :)
missyburd
26-04-11, 05:10 PM
Google Analytics is great, you get installation instructions once you've set up the profile. But just to note the code should go immediately before the </head> tag, not </body> (it used to be before the closing body tag but was updated quite some time ago).
Bugger I put it before the body tag...the report I'm getting says 0 visits....but it hasn't told me it's not worked...?
christopher
26-04-11, 05:19 PM
It doesn't really matter, it'll still track. Just the recommended place for the asynchronous code you're using (which is the latest at present) is before the closing head tag. I'm rather pedantic when it comes to aspects of my work and it's habit to pick up mistakes/comments etc.
Verification method 'A' is the simplest (http://www.google.com/support/analytics/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=174894&hl=en_GB) but a quick check of your source shows it as being on so no reason why it won't work.
You should get data in about 24 hours or so. Going forwards, it only updates a few times a day, so don't expect instant results :)
missyburd
26-04-11, 05:22 PM
It doesn't really matter, it'll still track. Just the recommended place for the asynchronous code you're using (which is the latest at present) is before the closing head tag. I'm rather pedantic when it comes to aspects of my work and it's habit to pick up mistakes/comments etc.
Verification method 'A' is the simplest (http://www.google.com/support/analytics/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=174894&hl=en_GB) but a quick check of your source shows it as being on so no reason why it won't work.
You should get data in about 24 hours or so. Going forwards, it only updates a few times a day, so don't expect instant results :)
Ah okidoke, it swayed me with the tick but it is only a receiving status. Tis good to be reassured by you knowledgeables :-P
Bugger I put it before the body tag...the report I'm getting says 0 visits....but it hasn't told me it's not worked...?
Bah my bad - I'm about a year out of date. It'll still work, it's just not 'proper'.
Did a quick check and the tracking code is definitely working so just need to wait for it to update.
Mr Speirs
26-04-11, 07:22 PM
Maria, the only criticism I have are the pages which are white on black make my eyes hurt such as the testimonials etc.
I just find it difficult to focus and it messes with my brain. It might be just me though :)
missyburd
26-04-11, 08:19 PM
Maria, the only criticism I have are the pages which are white on black make my eyes hurt such as the testimonials etc.
I just find it difficult to focus and it messes with my brain. It might be just me though :)
Hmm...I know some people had that same issue with one of the colour schemes for this forum. I will modify it a bit when I do a revamp :)
Specialone
26-04-11, 08:44 PM
Hmm...I know some people had that same issue with one of the colour schemes for this forum.
Yep, im one of them.
I have this forum on default style like the old way cos i hate white on black forums.
missyburd
08-01-12, 08:43 PM
Howdy do folks, thought I'd resurrect this instead of littering with another thread :-)
I have FINALLY got round to completing the "Galleries" section of my site. I have had help from someone far more techy than I with the basic code for the galleries themselves but I've taken the brunt of the donkeywork.
One small issue is the thumbnails of the pictures, if it's a landscape positioned photo they're fine but portrait and it squishes them into the thumbnail space.
The Testimonials page is updated too.
As usual, any comments etc much appreciated but you must bear with my non-techiness!
I know Comic Sans is the font of the devil ;)
Cheers!
MYC/Maria/Meg :p
WOW! you are one talented artist. you should draw some pictures of bikes too :)
Speedy Claire
08-01-12, 10:52 PM
Have had a look Maria and I think it`s fantastic.... packed full of talent x
missyburd
08-01-12, 11:00 PM
Cheers Claire :)
And tom, I've done one or two in the past but not really my thing. You never know though!
Amadeus
09-01-12, 12:45 PM
I know Comic Sans is the font of the devil
Pedant alert: typeface, not font
Opinion (FWIW): Wow, you're good. But anyone can do dogs and hedgehogs - bet you can't do cows - they have real character.
Suggestions: How about adding some pics of you in your pants (big or otherwise)? Loz is unlikely to visit this thread otherwise. Or am I getting my threads confused?
Fizzy Fish
09-01-12, 12:53 PM
Miss YC, your work is great, and I love the site too - it's really easy to navigate and get a feel for what you deliver, and your personality really comes across as well, which is important for this type of thing.
Well done & I hope the business is going well!
Fallout
09-01-12, 01:12 PM
Just another big thumbs up for your work. It's a shame when people just do these things privately for a few friends and don't pimp out their talent. Personally I think the site is good enough, and I like the fact it's not a blatantly half inched template, and also it retains some character in it's 'basic' design. As one artist to another (hehehe), big props from me! :)
minimorecambe
09-01-12, 01:51 PM
Aww my puppies on the homepage :D
Brettus
09-01-12, 02:52 PM
Damn, if only I'd remembered about this earlier while I've been searching for a present for my wife's birthday. when does the xmas rush start again MYC? :) I may well be getting in touch!
Really awesome pictures, oh, one point to mention re the site, in my browser (chrome) the commissions page background image isn't big enough to go behind all the text, if I zoom the page it eventually gets to fit but just thought I'd mention it.
missyburd
09-01-12, 08:20 PM
Miss YC, your work is great, and I love the site too - it's really easy to navigate and get a feel for what you deliver, and your personality really comes across as well, which is important for this type of thing.
Well done & I hope the business is going well!
Thankyou so much :) I had hoped it would do the job, cheers for the encouraging post!
Personally I think the site is good enough, and I like the fact it's not a blatantly half inched template, and also it retains some character in it's 'basic' design. As one artist to another (hehehe), big props from me! :)
Cheers Fallout. I didn't want a complicated site and I ewanted to be able to maintain and update it myself..oh and I was too skint to pay someone to do it for me, so I've got to make do with my limited capabilities!
Aww my puppies on the homepage :D
:D But of course, he's one of my best subjects!
Really awesome pictures, oh, one point to mention re the site, in my browser (chrome) the commissions page background image isn't big enough to go behind all the text, if I zoom the page it eventually gets to fit but just thought I'd mention it.
I did test it on a few browsers, Chrome was a bugger. I think I've just to make do with not being able to please every browser, it's too complicated. Although you could try one thing for me and see if it improves when you alter the resolution of the page?
Damn, if only I'd remembered about this earlier while I've been searching for a present for my wife's birthday. when does the xmas rush start again MYC? :) I may well be getting in touch!
Well for the Christmas just gone I set a deadline for taking Christmas commissions in late September. It will be around then this year too, possibly earlier...but perhaps your wife has a birthday coming up? ;)
Aww my puppies on the homepage :D
I bet that would bring in some site visits! :-)
I bet that would bring in some site visits! :-)
:winner:
missyburd
11-01-12, 08:08 PM
I bet that would bring in some site visits! :-)
LOL cheers MM :cool:
Brettus
12-01-12, 08:29 AM
Well for the Christmas just gone I set a deadline for taking Christmas commissions in late September. It will be around then this year too, possibly earlier...but perhaps your wife has a birthday coming up? ;)
Yeah but the birthday is on Saturday and I'm useless at planning ahead so I left it till after christmas to find a pressie heh.
Last years present was a picture and it was also belated so I've plumped for something different for this one but will likely be in touch for xmas/anniversary when I've got a bit more organised too :)
Thanks for the reply
missyburd
12-01-12, 09:00 AM
Yeah but the birthday is on Saturday and I'm useless at planning ahead so I left it till after christmas to find a pressie heh.
Last years present was a picture and it was also belated so I've plumped for something different for this one but will likely be in touch for xmas/anniversary when I've got a bit more organised too :)
Thanks for the reply
no worries :) Happy birthday to your missus for Saturday!
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