Angel eye HID install

[DarrenSV650S]

I need your opinions on this please. Vertical or horizontal? :)

If they're horizontal they'll be mounted to fork clamps, if they're vertical I'm thinking of mounting them to the stock frame mounts so they wouldn't turn with the bars.
I'm still making the rear plastics and they've still to be painted. Possibly the same silver as the tank/fairings. And no they won't be held together with tie wraps ;)

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k164/DarrenStewartTait/4d496551.jpg

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k164/DarrenStewartTait/92841080.jpg

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k164/DarrenStewartTait/8d1c28e2.jpg

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k164/DarrenStewartTait/86d8138c.jpg

[Specialone]

IMO, horizontal, street like :)

[The Idle Biker]

Yep, horizontal. I like em.

[leebex]

+1, but what about parking light tho?

[Holdup]

verticly back to front

[DarrenSV650S]

+1, but what about parking light tho?

The angel eyes can be used as parking lights, but since the headlights can't be turned off on pointys it doesn't really matter anyway :)

[andrewsmith]

Horizontal mate.

Vertical looks naff

[Bluefish]

horizontal looks best, and if they will then turn with the bars then win win.

[yorkie_chris]

Vertical, mounted on fairing bracket mounts. So long as you can make nice neat mounts.

Just because every crashed sportsbike in the world ends up with horizontal twin lamps mounted to forks. And it is more to mess with when you have to take forks out.

[barwel1992]

vertical with some nice CNC mount

[daveyrach]

Vertical

[ImplodedHamster]

vertical :D they look really good...

[Amplimator]

Vertical suits the 'street' look of your bike. In that position the clocks dont 'stand out' so much as they sorta blend with the lights better. Me likey.

EDIT; top one set back slightly further than the bottom one to flow with fork angle...

[dizzyblonde]

They both look plop. :P

Horizontal makes a smiley face. Look at the mudguard

[Daywalker]

yep vertical looks best :cool:.

[punyXpress]

Horizontal, but split 'em & put so centres are level with bottom of top yoke.

[DarrenSV650S]

6 for vertical and 6 for horizontal :)


I think I prefer vertical for the same reasons as Amplimator. It fills the gap under the clocks and it should look quite neat with nothing mounted on the forks.

[Specialone]

Wont you have a narrower field of view with them vertical, ie not as wide a fan of light?

[DarrenSV650S]

No way, these things are ridiculously bright. I could just have one and it would still be 20 times brighter than the dominators. And the beam pattern is perfect

[Richie]

Vertical, to be individual :0)

[dizzyblonde]

Wont you have a narrower field of view with them vertical, ie not as wide a fan of light?

No way, these things are ridiculously bright. I could just have one and it would still be 20 times brighter than the dominators. And the beam pattern is perfect

think you missed the point Darren. If you have two on top of each other, they may burn the curtains of granny down the road with their epic brightness, but if they only light up a bicycles width, they're a bit ****.
On the other hand if they are side by side, you'll burn her whole window through....

You could have four like Peg, not only burn one set of curtains, but four. Bright as hell, four in a row, six with all of them on, lights up two carriageways, thats the one your on, and the one in the opposite direction. On a motorway.

So with that in mind. I go the right way up, horizontal

[yorkie_chris]

Well think about what causes beam patterns to go way they do. That 4" difference will make no difference, it is direction light comes out of lamp that is going to make difference.

[Huwbee]

VERTICAL :cool:

[DarrenSV650S]

think you missed the point Darren. If you have two on top of each other, they may burn the curtains of granny down the road with their epic brightness, but if they only light up a bicycles width, they're a bit ****.
On the other hand if they are side by side, you'll burn her whole window through....

You could have four like Peg, not only burn one set of curtains, but four. Bright as hell, four in a row, six with all of them on, lights up two carriageways, thats the one your on, and the one in the opposite direction. On a motorway.

So with that in mind. I go the right way up, horizontal

Na I knew what he meant. I tried out one single HID when I got them and its beam pattern and overall spread completely drowned out the two little yellow dots from the dominators. The spread from the projector lens is really wide. Having them side by side wont make any noticeable difference

I might get some pics to show the difference between them

[Triton]

horizontal - but right up under the clocks

[Viney]

Side y side makes your bike look like the robot from short circuit

[Reeder]

Vertical.

[daveyrach]

Side y side makes your bike look like the robot from short circuit

'Number Jonny 5' in that Asian accent!

[Roberrrrt]

vertical

[_Stretchie_]

Vertical

[DarrenSV650S]

I've been busy making up trial brackets. Started with cardboard and I'm now using 1mm steel. I've bought some 3mm aluminium for the final design

I've been trying to get the lights as close to the forks as possible. And trying to get the bracket looking good too. I think I've just about got it. Just need to tidy up the part that bolts to the frame slightly and maybe round a few of the corners off, then I'll start on the aluminium ones.

Some of the failed designs.
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k164/DarrenStewartTait/c5fc0c1e.jpg

I bolted them to the latest bracket I made today. Obviously it will have a bracket at each side when it's finished
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k164/DarrenStewartTait/0acfc51d.jpg


Still to do...
mount the ballasts under the tank
shorten and rewire the control wiring because it's designed for a car
spray the light plastics
seal the hid's
get the rear covers for the plastics
wire up the 6 core flex for each light

[yorkie_chris]

Looking good.

[Reeder]

Does look good sir! I personally think the bottom light is a few cm too far out though but I guess that's personal preference. I'm pleased you went with vertical :)

[DarrenSV650S]

Does look good sir! I personally think the bottom light is a few cm too far out though but I guess that's personal preference. I'm pleased you went with vertical :)

I know what you mean. Still not decided about that. At the moment both lights are the same distance from the forks but the bottom one looks further out because there's nothing behind it

[andrewsmith]

I'd defo pull the bottom one back. looks good mate

[DarrenSV650S]

Just been looking at it and I'm gonna try taking the bracket straight down for the bottom light. Should be ok for clearance, just might need to get a P clip to keep the left brake line in position cos there wont be much room behind the bracket on full left lock

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k164/DarrenStewartTait/246d2498.jpg

[orose]

Possibly a daft question and off topic, but what are you doing about indicators?

I'm inclined to say rather than moving the bottom light back, to move the top one forward - it looks to me like there is a parallel line to the forks running off the clocks and through the front upper corners as we're looking at it.

[DarrenSV650S]

I see what you mean about the line but I really want them as close in to the forks as possible. Bringing the bottom one back will bring them in line with the clocks, although they wont be parallel with the forks any more. But bringing the top one forward would mean they weren't parallel anyway.

Haven't decided about the indicators yet. See the hole on the radiator bracket, I've been looking at mounting them using that hole and the bolt on the left side, but it means the indicator would be sitting over the filler cap. I could make a small bracket to bring them behind the cap.
Or I might get away with some short indicators on the headlight bracket. Still thinking.... :)

[Amplimator]

As you are considering straightening the lower part of the bracket i would do the same for the top. This would keep the lights parallel with the forks but give a much 'tighter' finish.
Looks like the top one would just squeeze in!

As for the indies on the rad, a 'Z' shaped bracket on the top side bolt would put the indies slightly behind the rad thus hiding the wires behind the rad going up/under the frame.

Superb handy work there, so good in fact when you have finished i have a couple of indie brackets need making, will send my bike up to you for a couple of weeks :p

[tactcom7]

agree with you for going vertical, I had this set up first...

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd319/tactcom7/DSC00073.jpg

(ignore mother and nephew)

then opted for...

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd319/tactcom7/IMG_2273.jpg

Looks (well, Looked) much better i think...

[DarrenSV650S]

As you are considering straightening the lower part of the bracket i would do the same for the top. This would keep the lights parallel with the forks but give a much 'tighter' finish.
Looks like the top one would just squeeze in!

As for the indies on the rad, a 'Z' shaped bracket on the top side bolt would put the indies slightly behind the rad thus hiding the wires behind the rad going up/under the frame.

Superb handy work there, so good in fact when you have finished i have a couple of indie brackets need making, will send my bike up to you for a couple of weeks :p
Na that's as close as the top one can go before it starts interfering with the throttle, clutch and speedo cables.

Indi's are sorted. Should have them fitted in a day or two once the glue has dried 8-[

agree with you for going vertical, I had this set up first...

Looks (well, Looked) much better i think...

Yeh deffo looks better



I made the two aluminium brackets today. Straightened out the bottom leg and brought it up 5mm. It's really tricky getting the two brackets exactly the same size and all the mounting holes in exactly the same place. Aluminium is nice and easy to file down though :p

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k164/DarrenStewartTait/7214e0a3.jpg

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http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k164/DarrenStewartTait/c2ce03b0.jpg

I'm really happy with how they look. Just need to sand and polish the brackets once I've got the final shape sorted.

I picked up some glue and clear silicone today to seal up the lights. And got some fine wet and dry for the painting. Also ordered the rear plastic caps and some lower profile bolts for the hid mounts.

[Bibio]

looking good Daz.

top tip: when you want 2 items to be the same, bolt the 2 plates together then drill and cut.

[DarrenSV650S]

looking good Daz.

top tip: when you want 2 items to be the same, bolt the 2 plates together then drill and cut.

ahh yeh that would be the sensible thing to do #-o

[Reeder]

Looks a lot better with it moved in. Looking brilliant!

[Geodude]

Really like how the lights have turned out, good job.

[DarrenSV650S]

After a lot of sanding and polishing the brackets are done!
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k164/DarrenStewartTait/DSCF0055-1.jpg

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k164/DarrenStewartTait/DSCF0056-2.jpg

Got a bellypan on ebay but the brackets are rusted to fook so made some nice shiney aluminium ones :p
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k164/DarrenStewartTait/DSCF0048-4.jpg

Redesigned this one so it's totally hidden when the bellypan is fitted
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k164/DarrenStewartTait/DSCF0052-1.jpg

And I'm now DONE with metal munching :D \\:D/

The bellypan has a scratch on it which I'm trying to spray just now but it's not going very well :( I'm not good at spraying
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k164/DarrenStewartTait/DSCF0054-2.jpg

Also started to prime the headlight covers in my 'spray booth' :p
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k164/DarrenStewartTait/DSCF0058-2.jpg

Started to chop up the wiring loom tonight. Need to solder and tidy it all up still

[Bibio]

you didnt get that silver one i posted the link to you did you?

those brackets are ace Daz i doubt very much that they would have looked any better out the machine. well done well done indeed.

[DarrenSV650S]

Yup. Silly money but silver ones never come up

[Galviniser]

You got any pics of them on at night? are they actually any better?

[DarrenSV650S]

They are a LOT better. :) Massively brighter and the spread of light is way better

I'll get some pics to show how bright they are when they're fitted

[DarrenSV650S]

I haven't got the HID's set at the right height yet, and I was just holding up the dominators, but you get the idea :mrgreen:

Dominators dipped
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k164/DarrenStewartTait/58d6e518.jpg

Dominators high beam
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k164/DarrenStewartTait/05719718.jpg

HIDs dipped :smt112
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k164/DarrenStewartTait/5ef865bd.jpg

HIDs high beam :smt103 :smt077
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k164/DarrenStewartTait/9d24c53f.jpg

[Specialone]

That's a big difference, I'm seriously thinking of doing the conversion to my sprint as the stock lights are pretty crap.

[Vergey]

That difference is amazing, looks like money well spent

[DarrenSV650S]

I got the belly pan, front mudguard and lights painted by a professional. My spray can job was pants :lol:

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k164/DarrenStewartTait/DSCF0001-47.jpg

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k164/DarrenStewartTait/DSCF0002-39.jpg

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http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k164/DarrenStewartTait/DSCF0004-26.jpg

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k164/DarrenStewartTait/DSCF0005-22.jpg

Mounted the new indicators in the frame
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k164/DarrenStewartTait/DSCF0008-20.jpg

and got a new LED for the inforad indicator and built it in to the speedo
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k164/DarrenStewartTait/DSCF0006-24.jpg

[Bibio]

looking lovely Daz. well done m8.

how come you changed the fancy rearsets back to standard?

[dyzio]

Do you manage to find time to ride the bike between the work and mods? :)

Looking good :)

[DarrenSV650S]

looking lovely Daz. well done m8.

how come you changed the fancy rearsets back to standard?
They came off last year when I came off. One got bent. I miss the look and feel of them even tho the standard ones are cumfier


Do you manage to find time to ride the bike between the work and mods? :)

Looking good :)
I usually do but I wouldnt have been doing much riding just now any way because im a bit skint :lol:
But yeh my mileage this year has been poor so far. Im so happy its back on the road now :D

[TamSV]

That looks great Darren. Love the lights.

Good idea putting the indies in the frame - worked out well.

[Viney]

The HID's are probably a lot better in a projector lamp assembly. The ones on My curvey SV in the normal light unit are great, but therere is a lot of light leakage.

[Reeder]

You've done a really really good job there mate. If that was black it would be perfect :)

[Amplimator]

That is easily the prettiest pointy SV around. Good work fella.

[The Idle Biker]

I voted for horizontal but I was wrong they look good like that. Ever thought about some flat bars?

BTW those photos look spookily like they were taken in the same place as the subway scene in the Micheal Caine file "Harry Brown".

[dyzio]

im a bit skint :lol:


Stop buying fancy bits and just fill it up with petrol ;)

Have you thought about starting a thread about all of your bikes transformations?



(or have you already got one and I've missed it?)

[Holdup]

That is easily the prettiest pointy SV around. Good work fella.

Its ok i s'pose

I keep telling him I preferred it like this

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k164/DarrenStewartTait/324o8hfsda2.jpg

[Reeder]

Its ok i s'pose

I keep telling him I preferred it like this

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k164/DarrenStewartTait/324o8hfsda2.jpg
Awful. Truly awful.

[DarrenSV650S]

Cheers for the comments guys :)

I voted for horizontal but I was wrong they look good like that. Ever thought about some flat bars?

BTW those photos look spookily like they were taken in the same place as the subway scene in the Micheal Caine file "Harry Brown".
Na I like the comfort of the raised bars.

You mean the underpass?

Stop buying fancy bits and just fill it up with petrol ;)

Have you thought about starting a thread about all of your bikes transformations?



(or have you already got one and I've missed it?)
I know, I have a problem, can't stop buying/modding it :(

Na it's just really tango bike and now this

Awful. Truly awful.
lol I liked the look of it like that, but prefer riding it like it is now

[phil24_7]

Now I'm wondering if I could fit a dipped and main beam projector in each of the SV's headlights?!

[yorkie_chris]

Now I'm wondering if I could fit a dipped and main beam projector in each of the SV's headlights?!

You can with TLS lights, ad53gz (iirc) did it on here, you need to put it in oven to soften glue to get shell apart but it is doable

[Richie]

Beautiful, Great Job.... :0)
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k164/DarrenStewartTait/DSCF0003-39.jpg

[DarrenSV650S]

Now I'm wondering if I could fit a dipped and main beam projector in each of the SV's headlights?!
I'm not sure if the sv lights would be deep enough for these hid's :-k

Beautiful, Great Job.... :0)

Cheers :D

[scottomus0]

that is, truly gorgeous!

before, faired, and after!

dont mean to be rude but how much has it set you back overall altogether?

id love to do a complete overhaul like that one day

[DarrenSV650S]

One hundred billion dollars!
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k164/DarrenStewartTait/fd4f9d93.jpg


I don't actually know, thankfully. But yeh, too much really 8-[

[scottomus0]

lol best keeping it that way then!

[phil24_7]

You can with TLS lights, ad53gz (iirc) did it on here, you need to put it in oven to soften glue to get shell apart but it is doable

I have a couple of spare headlights, one has smashed lenses, so I may well take a stab at this!

[phil24_7]

I'm not sure if the sv lights would be deep enough for these hid's :-k



Cheers :D

May be with the backs chopped out?!?!

Which units are these by the way, there's so much guff on eBay, do you have a linky please?

Regards

[DarrenSV650S]

Maybe, but how would you mount them?

I got them from here - http://www.xenon-man.com/
Mine is the G5 model. I found a G8 model on their website just after I ordered mine. It's not the easiest website to find stuff http://www.xenon-man.com/Bi-Xenon_Projector_Lens_G8.html
That one has a different high/low mechanism to mine

[phil24_7]

Better or worse?

[phil24_7]

Tis a dreadful website. Badly set out with no prices either!

[DarrenSV650S]

Better or worse?
Dunno

Tis a dreadful website. Badly set out with no prices either!

Yep better to just email him. And type in clear simple English ;)

[phil24_7]

I have a few Chinese friends that could probably help me word it a little better! :)

To answer an earlier question, I'd either separate the lens from the unit and mount them inside, or chop off the back and mount the with some form of bracketry...maybe!