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Been looking around several forums and can't quite seem to grasp how lethal (if at all) new tires are? I've seen people breaking bones because of them and people claiming to notice no difference. I've had a new bridgestone battlax bt021 fitted on my sv. Just wandered if anyone can shine any light on the situation. Thanks in advance :)
I've just realised I've posted this in the complete wrong place. *facepalm* sorry :(
andrewsmith
30-05-11, 10:02 PM
its the releasing agent used in the molds that make new tyres skittish when new.
They are dangerous if you try to ride the bike like the tyres are scrubbed in. Most dealers have notices up from the factories regarding it.
With a brand new tyre the bike will slide about like mad for a few miles. The 100 mile rule is the average scrub-in time for tyres (removing the shiny layer).
My fitter see about 2 a month atm where people have binned it after 100 yards on new tyres.
So just take it easy and should be fine then? Thanks for the reply :)
I had new battlax 016's fitted the other day, it ****ed it down just before I left. Just take it easy. I was just careful. to be honest after riding 30ish miles the black sticky stuff is pretty much gone. The chicken strips obviously take longer to get rid of! :)
Geodude
31-05-11, 02:57 PM
Had two new pilot road 2's fitted and had the same worry as i had never had to scub new tyres in before, but tbh as long as you go easy on them for a few miles and get the shine off you be right. Then the fun starts :)
Thanks for all your help. Am scrubbing them in tomoz. Just been looking at the photo thread. May tale a detour tomoz and see what I can find :)
Sid Squid
31-05-11, 04:23 PM
Tires are rubbish, buy tyres instead.
Tires are rubbish, buy tyres instead.
Problem solved now. Runs a dream :rolleyes:
yorkie_chris
31-05-11, 06:28 PM
With a brand new tyre the bike will slide about like mad for a few miles. The 100 mile rule is the average scrub-in time for tyres (removing the shiny layer).
No it won't!
Just ride normally and don't give any big handfuls in the first few miles. Honestly the first 100 yards out of the door are the worst.
Just for an example of how you can do it. I got a rear fitted in aberystwyth. Normal potter out of town, head out onto the country roads, gradually increase lean angle. Up to full speed within 15 miles.
That was avon. Maybe some other tyres use some real crap on them, but I doubt it these days if you're not using some ping pong crap.
No it won't!
Just ride normally and don't give any big handfuls in the first few miles. Honestly the first 100 yards out of the door are the worst.
Just for an example of how you can do it. I got a rear fitted in aberystwyth. Normal potter out of town, head out onto the country roads, gradually increase lean angle. Up to full speed within 15 miles.
That was avon. Maybe some other tyres use some real crap on them, but I doubt it these days if you're not using some ping pong crap.
Haha no they are bridgestone battlax's so not too bad. I've already ridden back from the fitter which was about a mile, so pleases me that i've conquered the 'difficult' part. Going for a 70 mile round trip tomorrow so hopefully will nearly be scuffed in by then :)
yorkie_chris
31-05-11, 06:37 PM
Go steady, warm them up then gradually increase lean angle and you will be fine. It is not as bad as some people make out.
andrewsmith
31-05-11, 06:40 PM
Must be just Dunlops they are seriously wooden when new
I'm getting new tyres on Friday ( Never had new tyres on ) and I asked a few very well informed older gents who have been riding for a million years. I was told
watch yourself on slow manouvers like mini roundabouts, keep it upright.
gradually increase your lean angle.
And finally, MAN UP YOU TOSSER ( cheers mate )
yorkie_chris
31-05-11, 06:41 PM
Yeah that about covers it.
A lot of people don't realise how brutal they are on tyres around junctions and stuff (then they go riding like fannies on the twisties, strange people!)
Yeah that about covers it.
A lot of people don't realise how brutal they are on tyres around junctions and stuff (then they go riding like fannies on the twisties, strange people!)
:thumright:
Mark650ni
31-05-11, 10:47 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9zNUPDmnz4
This poor fella springs to mind, I know I shouldnt, but I do laugh at the range he gets since picking up his new bike and power ranger outfit...
But yea, I use dunlop qualifiers and they are a bit slippy when new, you can tell when you wash the bike, water runs off the new part but sticks to the bit thats worn on the road, i assume its a shiney finish to resist water and make the thing last in storage when its new. I have had a few slips at the back on dry roundabouts, and normal wet when its new when otherwise it would be fine. Very soft tyre tho so doesnt last very long
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9zNUPDmnz4
This poor fella springs to mind, I know I shouldnt, but I do laugh at the range he gets since picking up his new bike and power ranger outfit...
But yea, I use dunlop qualifiers and they are a bit slippy when new, you can tell when you wash the bike, water runs off the new part but sticks to the bit thats worn on the road, i assume its a shiney finish to resist water and make the thing last in storage when its new. I have had a few slips at the back on dry roundabouts, and normal wet when its new when otherwise it would be fine. Very soft tyre tho so doesnt last very long
Nope, it's nothing to do with storage life or water resistance, it's to allow them to release from the mould they are made in, hence why it's called releasing compound. :rolleyes:
Daryl.
SV650Racer
01-06-11, 09:26 AM
You will be fine aslong as you dont give it a fistful whilst leaned right over!. Easiest way to do it is ride like the road is damp until you have scrubbed the tyre. No quick or sudden sharp movements.
Mind you I go out for a race on brand new tyres, one warm up lap and then flat out!!..wouldnt recommend it on road tyres though LOL
barwel1992
01-06-11, 09:40 AM
if ure that bothered then run some sand paper over them
Every time I've had new boots fitted it's ****ed down as I start leaving!
Just ride carfeully and smoothly and don't tense up.
I'm the same, it's only ever rained when having new tyres fitted lol
Like YC has said, you can do it in a few miles. I usually get some good speed up to get some heat in the tyre then find a tight fast corner covered in shell grip... tyres scrubbed in within 5 miles.
BBadger
01-06-11, 12:30 PM
TBH ive scrubbed tyres in in damp wet conditions ( strom 2's) and noticed no difference what so ever just gentle pace with no harsh manovers, breaking or accelerating and the tyres where fine within about 50 miles, just needed to work on the edges on sunny days.
Dont think about it to much just keep it calm and drive it like a car for a while.
Hyweldrums
02-06-11, 06:26 PM
Ride as if you're on a greasy road in nice conditions, ride as if you're on an icy road in wet conditions, then after getting a bit of heat into the rubber and gradually increasing lean angle over about 20 or 30 miles, have a look at the tyres... you can clearly see the good stuff coming through the nasty shiny stuff.
My 2p.
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