View Full Version : Bristol care Home Abuse
OMG did anybody see this http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13548222
There must be some people on here that are local to this home, was this common knowledge and is that tattooed Wayne (ker) a known local idiot or what. I saw he wore a motorcycle leather, does anybody know him? I would love to bump into him at a bike meet, corr would I be in trouble!
This is terrible and I hope they are all jailed and bullied until they sob for their mums. That would make for a nice follow up story BBC take note.
13 staff suspended and 4 have now been arrested, totally sickening what they were doing, lock them up and lose they key would still be too good for them.
Daryl
That programme was the most distressing thing I think I have EVER seen on the television. I was crying throughout. Nobody, nobody, deserves to be treated in such an abusive and humiliating way (and neither do any animals even)
I appreciate that caring for such people can be a difficult and challenging job, and one that should be better trained for and therefore paid for, but the behaviour of so many of those staff was beyond the pale. I see that some have been arrested this morning and I hope they get fully what they deserve.
Made me so ashamed of sme aspects of our society, and I cringed when I saw the bike jacket.
My heart genuinely does go out to those abused and their families
SoulKiss
01-06-11, 01:08 PM
OMG did anybody see this http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13548222
There must be some people on here that are local to this home, was this common knowledge and is that tattooed Wayne (ker) a known local idiot or what. I saw he wore a motorcycle leather, does anybody know him? I would love to bump into him at a bike meet, corr would I be in trouble!
This is terrible and I hope they are all jailed and bullied until they sob for their mums. That would make for a nice follow up story BBC take note.
Yep - on at least one occasion the guy with the hidden camera joined in (was instructed to take a patients arm and help drag her out of bed) - wonder where he stands legally...
OMG did anybody see this http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13548222
There must be some people on here that are local to this home, was this common knowledge and is that tattooed Wayne (ker) a known local idiot or what. I saw he wore a motorcycle leather, does anybody know him? I would love to bump into him at a bike meet, corr would I be in trouble!
.
I believe I said something similar in the megathread last night.. would like to burn his bike, preferably with him on it.
SK - I'm not sure the camera dude actually did much if any of the "abusing". It must have been horribly difficult for him to do what he did and not blow his cover.
SoulKiss
01-06-11, 01:20 PM
I believe I said something similar in the megathread last night.. would like to burn his bike, preferably with him on it.
SK - I'm not sure the camera dude actually did much if any of the "abusing". It must have been horribly difficult for him to do what he did and not blow his cover.
True, but what he DID do WAS assault when he assisted, which also contributedm if I remember correctly, to the female patient getting into such a state that she ended up tearing her own clothes off following the incident.
No, he should not get prosecuted, in my opinion, but it REALLY should be up the the legal system to decide.
AndyBrad
01-06-11, 01:21 PM
feck a duck, not seen this. makes me sick and upset :(
True, but what he DID do WAS assault when he assisted, which also contributedm if I remember correctly, to the female patient getting into such a state that she ended up tearing her own clothes off following the incident.
No, he should not get prosecuted, in my opinion, but it REALLY should be up the the legal system to decide.
I dare say there's some argument about the "greater good" so hurting one to save many, or some such viewpoint...
If you wanted to take that standpoint you could argue that everytime you stood by and watched someone get lamped in a pub you're as guilty of assault as the person who hit them, because you did nothing to stop it. (Not saying that to you in particular SK, just that some could argue that point iyswim!)
Back on topic - how the feck did those wasters even get jobs in there when there are so many GOOD and decent people who cant get work for love nor money, who wouldnt dream of treating someone like that. Surely you have to have a bit of paper to safe you're "appropriate" to work with vulnerable adults/children etc. I know I do.
I was sickened and angry at the way they treated those people, and I'll bet thats just the tip of the iceberg.
minimorecambe
01-06-11, 02:20 PM
I do the same job as these people (caring for mentally disabled people with challenging behaviour) and I was sickened to the core.
It is a hard job and does require he'll of a lot of patience and self control at times. But at the end of the day you know that they can't help their behaviour and at most parts don't mean it.
Their use of "restraint" was appalling. I say restraint but what they were doing was just abuse and a game to them.
We only restrain as a very last option and yes we have to but not often.
It tends to aggravate the situation more at first but has to be done for the safety of themselves and others. If done correctly it does work and you end up past the crisis point.
I hope that they get what they deserve and that the patients arent too scarred from the ordeal.
It takes a lot to gain someones trust and they have probably shattered every ounce of trust these patients had for carers.
Sorry if I am mumbling but I am at work now (on break) so it is a point thatt is very close to my heart
Jamesy D
01-06-11, 02:43 PM
True, but what he DID do WAS assault when he assisted, which also contributedm if I remember correctly, to the female patient getting into such a state that she ended up tearing her own clothes off following the incident.
No, he should not get prosecuted, in my opinion, but it REALLY should be up the the legal system to decide.
As the person who basically brought the Judicial system's attention to everything that happened, I'd probably say he won't be prosecuted, and will, in all likelyhood, stand as a prosecution witness during the trials. That or he'll be looked on very, very favourably by the judge and jury if he is prosecuted.
Guy's got to have massive balls to have done that - if they were doing that to the patients, imagine what they may have done to prevent it getting out...
Jayneflakes
01-06-11, 04:23 PM
I do the same job as these people (caring for mentally disabled people with challenging behaviour) and I was sickened to the core.
It is a hard job and does require he'll of a lot of patience and self control at times.
Same here. That report was harrowing and if I am honest I could not bare to watch it. Sorry.
The people I work with are also profoundly autistic, yet I could not live with myself if I treated them a fraction of how badly those poor people were treated. Working with adults who have learning difficulties is about supporting them to find freedom and peace in the community, not to engage in sick humiliation rituals.
I was made a Key worker for one of my lads a short while ago because it was noticed that he responds very well to my support. It was one of the proudest days in working career. My lad is a gentle, fragile person, the thought of anyone hurting him fills me with horror and I would defend him as if he were my own family.
I hope that those responsible are jailed for a long time. It is not just the staff that did it though, the managers who allowed it to continue unchecked and the staff at the CQC who failed to act on the complaint have a great deal to think about right now.
All human beings are worthy of being treated with dignity, those with learning difficulties just as much as the rest of us. Being a support worker is something you do because you care about other human beings, I care about all of the people I support, I encourage them to be brave when they are fearful, I encourage them to try new things and I encourage them to enjoy their lives. Those abusers are just sick and they have committed awful crimes against people not able to defend themselves. They deserve the full might of the law that will now be pressing upon them.
It is a sad day for the caring industry.
SoulKiss
01-06-11, 04:55 PM
As the person who basically brought the Judicial system's attention to everything that happened, I'd probably say he won't be prosecuted, and will, in all likelyhood, stand as a prosecution witness during the trials. That or he'll be looked on very, very favourably by the judge and jury if he is prosecuted.
Guy's got to have massive balls to have done that - if they were doing that to the patients, imagine what they may have done to prevent it getting out...
I agree fully with this - it seems I may have not got my view across as well as I thought.
yorkie_chris
01-06-11, 04:56 PM
I feel sorry for anyone who's gone into the job "blind" and been convinced that's how things were done, or who felt obliged to see it go on rather than blow the whistle on it.
Shoot 'em.
Surely you have to have a bit of paper to safe you're "appropriate" to work with vulnerable adults/children etc. I know I do.
PNC check? Doesn't that just say you haven't been caught?
PNC check? Doesn't that just say you haven't been caught?
Aye - it does, but certificates - again I know they really count for nuffin - to say that you've completed a course or partaken in some theory about how to treat a human decently would be required for a job like that?
I dunno how you police it, prove it, whatever. Seems the red tape is in all the wrong places.
Bluefish
01-06-11, 05:42 PM
Iplayer link to the programme http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b011pwt6/Panorama_Undercover_Care_The_Abuse_Exposed/ Just watched it, verdict I'd jail them all for 10 years.
bhp.on.tap
01-06-11, 05:43 PM
there are some weird and sick people in this world !!
Milky Bar Kid
01-06-11, 07:52 PM
Just watched it. Not ashamed to say it made me cry. I cannot understand, even in my line of work, how someone could be so unbelievably evil to another human being.
I am so angry!!!! Words fail me.
Dave20046
01-06-11, 08:01 PM
sickening
I am so angry!!!! Words fail me.
likewise , couldn't help but shout at the d1ck from the regulator.
Milky Bar Kid
01-06-11, 08:03 PM
sickening
likewise , couldn't help but shout at the d1ck from the regulator.
All he was interested in was saving his own skin and also avoiding saying they made a mistake. A misjudgement......so in other words, you made a mistake?
Dave20046
01-06-11, 08:04 PM
All he was interested in was saving his own skin and also avoiding saying they made a mistake. A misjudgement......so in other words, you made a mistake?
it was frustrating the interviewer finally made him say he failed them on this occasion...."this occasion"?! It was reported to them 3 ****ing times!
Geodude
01-06-11, 08:05 PM
Evil inhumane scum how can they do this without conscience, wtf is wrong with these people.
SoulKiss
01-06-11, 08:18 PM
Hopefully they were showing this in various prisons in the Bristol area...
Bluefish
01-06-11, 08:31 PM
Hopefully they were showing this in various prisons in the Bristol area...
The big hard biker, well he probably doesn't even ride, will have a nice time in the big house. The thing that got me is, they/we are paying 3.5k a week for these people to be treated like this, you couldn't make it up :(
SuzukiNess
01-06-11, 09:20 PM
Evil in human scum how can they do this without conscience, wtf is wrong with these people.
i've just seen a short clip on the news - i couldnt watch the whole programme after seeing the little i did. absolutely disgraceful - its a pity they couldnt be treated for the next 10 years in the same way the deemed fit to treat those poor defenseless people.
Geodude i am sorry but i dont agree with you.. those things are far from human.. human's have compassion, feelings, souls etc etc.. they have none of that
The Idle Biker
01-06-11, 09:27 PM
Stick em in jail and film them getting their come-uppence with the cons at playtime. And for everyones sake remember that homes like this cost money as does training and funding for good caring staff.
Speedy Claire
01-06-11, 09:33 PM
I couldn`t watch the whole programme... I had to turn over as I found it so harrowing. All those responsible deserve to go to prison, they had a duty of care to their clients and they abused that position 100 times over. I have never watched anything so upsetting ever!
BlackFlag94
01-06-11, 11:12 PM
Firstly, I'm new to this forum so apologies for any Newbie mistakes I make..
OMG did anybody see this http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13548222
There must be some people on here that are local to this home, was this common knowledge and is that tattooed Wayne (ker) a known local idiot or what. I saw he wore a motorcycle leather, does anybody know him? I would love to bump into him at a bike meet, corr would I be in trouble!
This is terrible and I hope they are all jailed and bullied until they sob for their mums. That would make for a nice follow up story BBC take note.
I noticed this was posted in 2007... This was still going on since march this year and was on BBC last night and "Points West" news tonight. Does anyone know where this Wayne guy is? I'd love to see him !!!
Bit mistaken there I think. Programme was broadcast on Tuesday 31st May 2011 and the OP was yesterday
BlackFlag94
02-06-11, 10:20 AM
Bit mistaken there I think. Programme was broadcast on Tuesday 31st May 2011 and the OP was yesterday
Oh i just realised what I did... apologies ! :P The fella joined in 2007... feel like a bit of a burk now Ahaha.
Absolutely disgusting what they did to those people
Don;t worry Black Flag - we all make them
I watched it on Iplayer last night and I cannot think a suitable punishment for them ( unusual for me)
i just hope that they are somewhere safe as i'm sure that the locals will have a lynch mob waiting for them
(and that not to protect them it to protect the locals who lynch them because knowing our system it them that would get charged)
BlackFlag94
02-06-11, 10:37 AM
You're right quedos, it would be the people soughting justice for the assualted that would be punished and that "Wayne" and the others would get given 20hours community service and that'd be that
SuzukiNess
02-06-11, 11:00 AM
Geodude i am sorry but i dont agree with you.. those things are far from human.. human's have compassion, feelings, souls etc etc.. they have none of that
just to clarify - wasnt attacking Geodude - just the use of the word HUMAN.. sorry for the confusion and didnt mean to upset.. :smt095
The Idle Biker
26-10-12, 09:06 PM
See some of these scummy feckers have been jailed.
I still worry though that put into tough care environments, some staff with too much work will flip in the same way?
chris8886
26-10-12, 09:11 PM
See some of these scummy feckers have been jailed.
I still worry though that put into tough care environments, some staff with too much work will flip in the same way?
quite right that some have gone to prison and i agree some people will always have a breaking point that will be reached much quicker than others.
vBulletin® , Copyright ©2000-2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.